Should scrap Monday night games and put them on a Friday night instead
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At home during every other match this week but out of even cell phone range on Monday. Fuck playing Palace and fuck Mondays.
Do we usually win when you don't watch?
He barely "cut it" against West Ham, hence why people are doubting him.
I'm not the only person here who thinks Clyne is better defensively.
Also, don't forget that in the two seasons before he got injured he probably was our most consistent defender.
With all that said, I have a feeling that TAA will start anyway.
TAA was poor defensively against WHU? I think I remember 'one' issue? What else do you remember?
It seems that Clyne > TAA has been your summer request ... when our first goal was by a pass that Clyne may be able to make, but has not shown it in this year's preseason (I won't judge him on last year as ... well ... he was coming off whatever injury).
Trent has shown he's a very capable defender - adds a passing dimension which Clyne has not been able to do consistently throughout his Liverpool career. Considering how attacking our FBs are, and how often they touch the ball in the opponent's half, I think the decision is fairly easy unless Trent starts to pass/attack like Clyne does, and then it becomes a far more interesting discussion.
TAA is obviously better in the attacking aspects of the game, never claimed that he isn't.
But in certain games I think defence first should be considered. Especially against a team like CP who heavily rely on their left wing.
They clearly targeted TAA on our right. Anderson was running straight for TAA at every opportunity and he got TAA a yellow. It was touch and go for awhile until Anderson got tired.
I think TAA will start but he will need alot more protection if Zaha or one of their equally pacey forwards starts running at him today.
It's Monday night football, if I am right, we are usually piss poor on Monday night kick offs. I am expecting a draw, Roy will park the bus
They targeted him, like City did with Sane, and bar one yellow (which was harsh), he didn't really struggle much? How many chances were created by Anderson?
West Ham's key chances were Gomez's mistake and the ref's helping hand ... Nothing else ...
It's because West Ham were poor on the night. But they identified a weak spot and it was on our right. In the second half they had Antonio running that channel and we sent on Hendo to provide additional cover there.
I think TAA is worth his weight to start because of the attacking flair he brings to the team. But Clyne, as he had shown before his long injury, was a more competent defender (in defending) than TAA ever was. At least based on the performances we have seen till this point. He was one of our best defenders back then and he was the undroppable one in our back 4. Back then teams only targeted our left (Moreno), never our right. If he has fully recovered and is back to that level, he has the right to stake a claim.
Heno came in the what? 70th minute with the score 3-0? I'd say that was more to just get him minutes as he's really had no preseason and give a tiring Bobby a break ...
Clyne was (and still is) competent as a defender, no arguments but you're just implying that Trent isn't when he is already competent as a defender (not to mention he was fantastic in the season's run up last year. Sane? Ronaldo? Brighton in a must win? Nothing) ... I have no problem playing Clyne as the season goes on, he's a solid defender but now? We're trying to get on a run like City had last year to start the season, and Klopp should go with his current 'preferred 11' ... One that opponents fear ... and TAA is a part of that.
But I guess we'll agree to disagree -🙂
Did everyone forget how much Clyne struggles with aeriel balls, especially those crossed to the far post? I mean I get what everyone's saying, but let's not pretend Clyne is some defensive rock, and lets also not forget that the way TAA plays means the entire team has to defend less.
I watch most matches so probably doesn't matter?
Was thinking the exact same thing about Clyne and deep crosses.
On the other hand, really nice to have two strong options to choose from.
Was it TAA or Gomez Zaha beat last year?
Anyway Clyne is better defensively without question.
Happy to see him start but I won't be surprised to see TAA start again.
Anyway Clyne is better defensively without question.
Happy to see him start but I won't be surprised to see TAA start again.
Based on this article, TAA will start today.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...xander-15048634.amp?__twitter_impression=true
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...xander-15048634.amp?__twitter_impression=true
I don't say you are wrong, but what do you base this on? Clyne has played about 1 competitive game in a year or more and TAA is an integral part of a defence that has not let in a goal on Anfield since february and seem steady as shit.
And Clyne had already started to decline before his injury, often having games where players would ghost past him on our right. Ok, so TAA is less of a natural fullback and has had the occasional bad game there (WBA in the cup, United in the league), but he also held his own against a brilliant Sane in three head to heads.
Watch Clyne against Arsenal the season before last, he was dreadful defensively - it happens. As you say though, he's been out a long time, we're basing all of this on form from more or less two years ago and beyond.
I hope Clyne can pick up and become a vital Squad member. We need the depth in quality all over. But as you touch on, a fullback is not just a fullback. They have to fit With the team's approach tot he game and the style of play. To just throw a more defensive capable fullback on as it is an away game is not the way to og. TAA together with Salah does something to the other team. They will definately be aware of the threath of attacking agressively Down our right flank.
Dont mention that rag.
Good point. My post was also rendered obsolete when Mark retrospectively deleted his last paragraph.
I felt it was probably a bit harsh. Sorry! lol
If we're talking about how much he's been available recently, then yeah. I don't think he ever was regularly injured though was he? But if we're talking about the likes of Sturridge and Lallana being finished (as Pat has often alluded to), then I don't think you can then sing the praises of the quality of Clyne and compare him more favourably to TAA, when Clyne has missed a good two years of football. It's only the same deal, we're basing his quality on yesteryear. In the here and now, TAA has been by and large an excellent surprise in that position and Clyne has it all to do to win his place back.
It's a good dilemma though.
Not sure. But without speculating on his injury specifically it is a real test to og away for such periods injured. The motivation to make it back to the highest level must be tested numerous of times. I mean it is not just a question to get back as a footballer, here you have to og allthe way back to CL final level's. It is a test of character for sure. The numbers of dire repetations in the gym, witnessing others grabbing their chance in your position, isolation fro the rest of the Squad etc etc. Some manage to do it. Others not so much. Even after the injury you have to find the way back to the team and push as an outsider. So it certainly hampen the natural development.
Haha. Not sure why it happens, but the word "og" means "and" in Norwegian and it seem impossible to ovewrite that autocorrect.
So whenever i type the word "g o" internet decides I mean to say "og" ("and" is probably the most used word in Norwegian). It seem the same way it is very easy to own Brendan in any discussion it is impossible to own the internet autocorrect wizzard in this actual case.
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