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Palace (A) - Monday Night Lights

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Palace away is a fearsome atmosphere, particularly when it is their curtain-raiser at home. I'd much rather blood Fabinho in a nice home game (as was surely intended) rather than the cauldron of Selhurst park. I'd be tempted to go Hendo, Milner, Keita in midfield. That's a trio that will let nobody down.

Zaha fucking tortured AA in this fixture last season. If we know anything about Klopp it is that he always gives his players a shot at redemption, so I expect him to play, though part of me would like Clyne to get a run out. The rest picks itself.

I would play Fabinho in this game – yes, it will be an intimidating atmosphere to be thrown into on your first game, but he is supposed to be one of the hardest motherfuckers on the team, so he should be the one intimidating them. We need someone with his physicality and also calmness in possession – one of the knocks on Hendo over the years has been that his passing becomes erratic under pressure, that's one aspect where Fabinho can potentialy be an upgrade.

Clyne vs TAA will be a difficult decision around the margins – but I think in the end it will be Clyne, because I suspect Klopp's thinking before West Ham was that we were likely to have much more of the ball, so TAA's qualities were more important, even if he was rusty. Away at Palace it's likely to be more balanced and perhaps those are the types of games where Clyne might be preferable. Personally I'd be uncomfortable thinking of Zaha and Van Aanholt running at the inexperienced TAA and Gomez combo on our right flank.

Rest of the side should be unchanged from Sunday, barring any last-minute injuries. Hopefully Matip will be fit enough for the bench.
 
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I think we'll see Henderson for this one. Fabinho is going to be eased in like Robertson and AOC last year. I'd say Henderson was brought on against West Ham over Fabinho in preperation for the Palace game. 3-0 Liverpool.
 
I think we'll see Henderson for this one. Fabinho is going to be eased in like Robertson and AOC last year. I'd say Henderson was brought on against West Ham over Fabinho in preperation for the Palace game. 3-0 Liverpool.
Great name. We need more LOTR posters - so we can set them on DB, Dantes and Modo etc !
 
I think we'll see Henderson for this one. Fabinho is going to be eased in like Robertson and AOC last year. I'd say Henderson was brought on against West Ham over Fabinho in preperation for the Palace game. 3-0 Liverpool.
Keita hasn't been eased in...
 
I love the versatility of Milner when it comes to thinking about tactics for this one. On the defensive side, we know just how well he can help our CM and RB down the channel. However, on the attacking side he can really push out side forcing Palace to have to keep one of Schlupp & Van Aanholt back at all times (accompanying Salah, or filling that gap when Salah roams). Has potential to be excellent cat & mouse down that side.
 
Keita hasn't been eased in...

Keita has been playing more the style we normally do than Fabinho has. He has also had this move planned a year ago, and hence is better mentally prepared for what lies ahead. Fabinho will be fine, but much the same as Ox's unexpected transfer last year he have to get to know what Klopp is all about.
 
Trent held his own in the champions league final, and Robbo has been brilliant since he's come in. I'm confident in the defence to do their bit.
 
Keita hasn't been eased in...
Klopp said from the start the Fabinho would take longer to get used to playing for us. Keita has come from Leipzig who play a high intensity game that is very similar to us in terms of the demands on midfielders, with quick transitions rather than slower build up. This is very well known, and it has been clear on the pitch in preseason that Keita immediately looked at home whilst Fabinho has looked considerably more uncertain.

Edit: As @Hansern and @Bezerker have already said...
 


Klopp is very complimentary of Hodgson, says that he studied Roy's defensive formations while he coached in Switzerland.
 
I watched the Fulham v CP game.
We really need to stop that left wing of theirs. Van Aanholt, Schlupp and Zaha are dangerous.
I trust Van Dijk to take care of Benteke.
Id love for us to play with an attacking lineup again but I think Klopp really should consider playing both Clyne and Fabinho this time. Why not play both TAA and Clyne? Clyne at RB and TAA at RCM like Milner?

I'd go with that idea, but something more along the lines of:

--------------Allison-------------------
Clyne---Gomez-VVD-Robertson
----------------Fabinho---------------
----Milner----------------Keita-------
-Salah--------Firmino------Mane---

For some reason, I'm half tempted to take Keita out and give us a bit more solidity, but we don't want to lose that creative edge and the ability to carry the ball from the defensive third, into attack, through the middle of the team. I'm guessing Hendo or Fabs will start at DM, probably Hendo based on Klopp's caution with Fabinho..
 
Annoying we have to wait til Monday
I fucking HATE Monday night games. At the weekend the matches are all at reasonable times and I'm all on edge waiting for our game ...... then after the Sat & Sun games I have to wait to Monday night, with Monday games being 03.00 or 04.00 starts here.
 
For some reason, I'm half tempted to take Keita out and give us a bit more solidity, but we don't want to lose that creative edge and the ability to carry the ball from the defensive third, into attack, through the middle of the team. I'm guessing Hendo or Fabs will start at DM, probably Hendo based on Klopp's caution with Fabinho..
Solidity ? With Keita having amongst the best defensive (as well as offensive) midfielder stats for the past 2 seasons in the BL ? We won't lose anything with him in midfield in fact him and Fabinho should be a huge improvement on our midfield's defensive record last season.

I'd play your team too but believe Klopp will keep TAA at RB.
 
I'd go with that idea, but something more along the lines of:

--------------Allison-------------------
Clyne---Gomez-VVD-Robertson
----------------Fabinho---------------
----Milner----------------Keita-------
-Salah--------Firmino------Mane---

For some reason, I'm half tempted to take Keita out and give us a bit more solidity, but we don't want to lose that creative edge and the ability to carry the ball from the defensive third, into attack, through the middle of the team. I'm guessing Hendo or Fabs will start at DM, probably Hendo based on Klopp's caution with Fabinho..

Yeah, I agree. He isn't going to throw Fabinho in at Palace, and rightly so IMHO.

I'd like to see Clyne play too, but knowing Klopp, he'll want to back AA and allow him to learn from the rough ride Zaha gave him in this fixture last spring. I see this as the team:

--------------Allison-------------------
AA--Gomez-VVD-Robertson
----------------Hendo---------------
----Milner----------------Keita-------
-Salah--------Firmino------Mane---
 
Not understanding the love fest for Clyne over TAA at all for this. TAA has cemented his place in the team. Clyne has hardly played for several months, and didn't look the sharpest when he did. I think he switches off at times and can remember a few times players ghosted in at the back behind him to score. TAA all day for me. In the middle, Keita is first name on the team sheet. Milner will play too as adaptable. Most likely Henderson over an admittedly unlucky Wiljnaldum for this one. With our forward line, we will win this by a couple of goals comfortably.
 
Solidity ? With Keita having amongst the best defensive (as well as offensive) midfielder stats for the past 2 seasons in the BL ? We won't lose anything with him in midfield in fact him and Fabinho should be a huge improvement on our midfield's defensive record last season.

I'd play your team too but believe Klopp will keep TAA at RB.

He's played one game in the Premiership, going away to tough hunting grounds is always generally a bit of a wake up call for new players. His defensive record in a completely different league is pretty irrelevant when he's learning about the league. But he's not playing the DM role and he'll probably have Henderson and Milner with him, so he's released a bit more and will have less defensive pressure put on him. If that's the case he should play, but let's not get carried away and think he's going to find every game easy while he's learning.
 
He's played one game in the Premiership, going away to tough hunting grounds is always generally a bit of a wake up call for new players. His defensive record in a completely different league is pretty irrelevant when he's learning about the league. But he's not playing the DM role and he'll probably have Henderson and Milner with him, so he's released a bit more and will have less defensive pressure put on him. If that's the case he should play, but let's not get carried away and think he's going to find every game easy while he's learning.
Well I didn't say he'd find it easy ... I said he's defensively strong so not a weak link in that regard.
 
Not understanding the love fest for Clyne over TAA at all for this. TAA has cemented his place in the team. Clyne has hardly played for several months, and didn't look the sharpest when he did. I think he switches off at times and can remember a few times players ghosted in at the back behind him to score. TAA all day for me. In the middle, Keita is first name on the team sheet. Milner will play too as adaptable. Most likely Henderson over an admittedly unlucky Wiljnaldum for this one. With our forward line, we will win this by a couple of goals comfortably.
Me too. Given Trent played well at the sharp end of the Chapmions League and top 4 grind last season, I don't understand this prolonged doubting of his ability to cut it against top attackers or in crunch games.

What else does he have to do beyond the tail end of last season to prove his defensive ability?
 
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