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If Owen would really be willing to sign for 40k/wk then we should definitely be in for him.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=34487.msg898751#msg898751 date=1246540557]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=34487.msg898736#msg898736 date=1246539940]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898734#msg898734 date=1246539794]
The kind of bitter attitude that appears from time to time on here whenever Owen's name is mentioned is a bit pathetic and the sort of thing I'd expect from Everton fans.
We have no reason to hate Owen. He had a great record for us, was very important in us winning a few trophies then left to go to Madrid. I don't blame him for that.
We had a chance of bringing him back but we didn't take it. He didn't turn us down.
Ultimately though we haven't done too badly without him so to ridicule him because things haven't necessarily worked out so well for him shows a lack of class that I don't generally expect from Liverpool fans.
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So if your wifey popped over to the neighbors for a quick morning session, seems like you wouldn't be all too fussed huh.
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Your second stupid statement (or is it third) of a one and a half page thread
My opinion, don't like it, eat my shat son.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=34487.msg898736#msg898736 date=1246539940]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898734#msg898734 date=1246539794]
The kind of bitter attitude that appears from time to time on here whenever Owen's name is mentioned is a bit pathetic and the sort of thing I'd expect from Everton fans.
We have no reason to hate Owen. He had a great record for us, was very important in us winning a few trophies then left to go to Madrid. I don't blame him for that.
We had a chance of bringing him back but we didn't take it. He didn't turn us down.
Ultimately though we haven't done too badly without him so to ridicule him because things haven't necessarily worked out so well for him shows a lack of class that I don't generally expect from Liverpool fans.
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So if your wifey popped over to the neighbors for a quick morning session, seems like you wouldn't be all too fussed huh.
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Your second stupid statement (or is it third) of a one and a half page thread
My opinion, don't like it, eat my shat son.
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898750#msg898750 date=1246540441]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898748#msg898748 date=1246540382]
I think Owens departure suited Rafa more than it suited Owen
regards
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Yes. And that's an another issue
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Very likely,but Rafa didn't instigate his departure.
The pictures are funny,but I think only a few genuinely enjoy whats happened to Owen
His fate genuinely makes me sad.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898748#msg898748 date=1246540382]
I think Owens departure suited Rafa more than it suited Owen
regards
[/quote]
Yes. And that's an another issue
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Very likely,but Rafa didn't instigate his departure.
The pictures are funny,but I think only a few genuinely enjoy whats happened to Owen
His fate genuinely makes me sad.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=34487.msg898757#msg898757 date=1246540696]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=34487.msg898751#msg898751 date=1246540557]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=34487.msg898736#msg898736 date=1246539940]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898734#msg898734 date=1246539794]
The kind of bitter attitude that appears from time to time on here whenever Owen's name is mentioned is a bit pathetic and the sort of thing I'd expect from Everton fans.
We have no reason to hate Owen. He had a great record for us, was very important in us winning a few trophies then left to go to Madrid. I don't blame him for that.
We had a chance of bringing him back but we didn't take it. He didn't turn us down.
Ultimately though we haven't done too badly without him so to ridicule him because things haven't necessarily worked out so well for him shows a lack of class that I don't generally expect from Liverpool fans.
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So if your wifey popped over to the neighbors for a quick morning session, seems like you wouldn't be all too fussed huh.
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Your second stupid statement (or is it third) of a one and a half page thread
My opinion, don't like it, eat my shat son.
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Wow. Thats four in two pages. One every half page. Good average. Son.
Incidentally, whilst you are entitled to your opinion, it would appear to be very much a minority one, on this topic anyway
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=34487.msg898751#msg898751 date=1246540557]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=34487.msg898736#msg898736 date=1246539940]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898734#msg898734 date=1246539794]
The kind of bitter attitude that appears from time to time on here whenever Owen's name is mentioned is a bit pathetic and the sort of thing I'd expect from Everton fans.
We have no reason to hate Owen. He had a great record for us, was very important in us winning a few trophies then left to go to Madrid. I don't blame him for that.
We had a chance of bringing him back but we didn't take it. He didn't turn us down.
Ultimately though we haven't done too badly without him so to ridicule him because things haven't necessarily worked out so well for him shows a lack of class that I don't generally expect from Liverpool fans.
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So if your wifey popped over to the neighbors for a quick morning session, seems like you wouldn't be all too fussed huh.
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Your second stupid statement (or is it third) of a one and a half page thread
My opinion, don't like it, eat my shat son.
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Wow. Thats four in two pages. One every half page. Good average. Son.
Incidentally, whilst you are entitled to your opinion, it would appear to be very much a minority one, on this topic anyway
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898734#msg898734 date=1246539794]
The kind of bitter attitude that appears from time to time on here whenever Owen's name is mentioned is a bit pathetic and the sort of thing I'd expect from Everton fans.
We have no reason to hate Owen. He had a great record for us, was very important in us winning a few trophies then left to go to Madrid. I don't blame him for that.
We had a chance of bringing him back but we didn't take it. He didn't turn us down.
Ultimately though we haven't done too badly without him so to ridicule him because things haven't necessarily worked out so well for him shows a lack of class that I don't generally expect from Liverpool fans.
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he fucked us over and deserves everything he gets.
no way should a world class player like that leave at 23 for £8m, doesn't happen anywhere else . he should have signed a contract and let us get full value for him but he couldnt wait to leave.
The kind of bitter attitude that appears from time to time on here whenever Owen's name is mentioned is a bit pathetic and the sort of thing I'd expect from Everton fans.
We have no reason to hate Owen. He had a great record for us, was very important in us winning a few trophies then left to go to Madrid. I don't blame him for that.
We had a chance of bringing him back but we didn't take it. He didn't turn us down.
Ultimately though we haven't done too badly without him so to ridicule him because things haven't necessarily worked out so well for him shows a lack of class that I don't generally expect from Liverpool fans.
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he fucked us over and deserves everything he gets.
no way should a world class player like that leave at 23 for £8m, doesn't happen anywhere else . he should have signed a contract and let us get full value for him but he couldnt wait to leave.
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=34487.msg898778#msg898778 date=1246542406]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898734#msg898734 date=1246539794]
The kind of bitter attitude that appears from time to time on here whenever Owen's name is mentioned is a bit pathetic and the sort of thing I'd expect from Everton fans.
We have no reason to hate Owen. He had a great record for us, was very important in us winning a few trophies then left to go to Madrid. I don't blame him for that.
We had a chance of bringing him back but we didn't take it. He didn't turn us down.
Ultimately though we haven't done too badly without him so to ridicule him because things haven't necessarily worked out so well for him shows a lack of class that I don't generally expect from Liverpool fans.
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he fucked us over and deserves everything he gets.
no way should a world class player like that leave at 23 for £8m, doesn't happen anywhere else . he should have signed a contract and let us get full value for him but he couldnt wait to leave.
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Hang on a minute. The fee was our own fuck up, he might have strung us along but we were naive enough (after Macca too) to let that happen. It was only Rafa coming in and having the balls to face the situation and sort it there and then that saw us get anything.
As for Owen, he carried us for years (unlike Macca) and was one of the best goalscorers and players we've EVER had, so Richey is spot on, show some respect and act like a fucking Liverpool fan.
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898734#msg898734 date=1246539794]
The kind of bitter attitude that appears from time to time on here whenever Owen's name is mentioned is a bit pathetic and the sort of thing I'd expect from Everton fans.
We have no reason to hate Owen. He had a great record for us, was very important in us winning a few trophies then left to go to Madrid. I don't blame him for that.
We had a chance of bringing him back but we didn't take it. He didn't turn us down.
Ultimately though we haven't done too badly without him so to ridicule him because things haven't necessarily worked out so well for him shows a lack of class that I don't generally expect from Liverpool fans.
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he fucked us over and deserves everything he gets.
no way should a world class player like that leave at 23 for £8m, doesn't happen anywhere else . he should have signed a contract and let us get full value for him but he couldnt wait to leave.
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Hang on a minute. The fee was our own fuck up, he might have strung us along but we were naive enough (after Macca too) to let that happen. It was only Rafa coming in and having the balls to face the situation and sort it there and then that saw us get anything.
As for Owen, he carried us for years (unlike Macca) and was one of the best goalscorers and players we've EVER had, so Richey is spot on, show some respect and act like a fucking Liverpool fan.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=34487.msg898762#msg898762 date=1246540994]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898750#msg898750 date=1246540441]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898748#msg898748 date=1246540382]
I think Owens departure suited Rafa more than it suited Owen
regards
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Yes. And that's an another issue
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Very likely,but Rafa didn't instigate his departure.
The pictures are funny,but I think only a few genuinely enjoy whats happened to Owen
His fate genuinely makes me sad.
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I think that is a widely held and much flawed assumption Avvy
regards
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898750#msg898750 date=1246540441]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898748#msg898748 date=1246540382]
I think Owens departure suited Rafa more than it suited Owen
regards
[/quote]
Yes. And that's an another issue
[/quote]
Very likely,but Rafa didn't instigate his departure.
The pictures are funny,but I think only a few genuinely enjoy whats happened to Owen
His fate genuinely makes me sad.
[/quote]
I think that is a widely held and much flawed assumption Avvy
regards
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=34487.msg898790#msg898790 date=1246543727]
Hang on a minute. The fee was our own fuck up, he might have strung us along but we were naive enough (after Macca too) to let that happen. It was only Rafa coming in and having the balls to face the situation and sort it there and then that saw us get anything.
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I don't think any Liverpool fan watching Owen sat on the bench against Graz (?) in 2004 was thinking "well, 8M isn't bad and after all, it's our own naivety that got us here". It was a mess that Owen and / or his agents created and exploited. The guy gets respect from me, but I'm not about to rewrite history for him.
Hang on a minute. The fee was our own fuck up, he might have strung us along but we were naive enough (after Macca too) to let that happen. It was only Rafa coming in and having the balls to face the situation and sort it there and then that saw us get anything.
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I don't think any Liverpool fan watching Owen sat on the bench against Graz (?) in 2004 was thinking "well, 8M isn't bad and after all, it's our own naivety that got us here". It was a mess that Owen and / or his agents created and exploited. The guy gets respect from me, but I'm not about to rewrite history for him.
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=34487.msg898790#msg898790 date=1246543727]
Hang on a minute. The fee was our own fuck up, he might have strung us along but we were naive enough (after Macca too) to let that happen. It was only Rafa coming in and having the balls to face the situation and sort it there and then that saw us get anything.
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I don't think any Liverpool fan watching Owen sat on the bench against Graz (?) in 2004 was thinking "well, 8M isn't bad and after all, it's our own naivety that got us here". It was a mess that Owen and / or his agents created and exploited. The guy gets respect from me, but I'm not about to rewrite history for him.
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Neither am I, they exploited our naivety and his name will always be tarnished because of that, but we did allow ourselves to get into that situation and it doesn't change the fact he's one of the greatest strikers we've ever had.
And let's face it, he's paid for his decision in a big way, I don't see any enjoyment in kicking him though.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=34487.msg898790#msg898790 date=1246543727]
Hang on a minute. The fee was our own fuck up, he might have strung us along but we were naive enough (after Macca too) to let that happen. It was only Rafa coming in and having the balls to face the situation and sort it there and then that saw us get anything.
[/quote]
I don't think any Liverpool fan watching Owen sat on the bench against Graz (?) in 2004 was thinking "well, 8M isn't bad and after all, it's our own naivety that got us here". It was a mess that Owen and / or his agents created and exploited. The guy gets respect from me, but I'm not about to rewrite history for him.
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Neither am I, they exploited our naivety and his name will always be tarnished because of that, but we did allow ourselves to get into that situation and it doesn't change the fact he's one of the greatest strikers we've ever had.
And let's face it, he's paid for his decision in a big way, I don't see any enjoyment in kicking him though.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898748#msg898748 date=1246540382]
I think Owens departure suited Rafa more than it suited Owen
regards
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I wonder if Rafa would have let him go if he hadn't have been saddled with Cisse? Anyway, it was Owen's advisors who really deserve all of the bile. Delaying the club for months and then...going on sabbatical!
I think Owens departure suited Rafa more than it suited Owen
regards
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I wonder if Rafa would have let him go if he hadn't have been saddled with Cisse? Anyway, it was Owen's advisors who really deserve all of the bile. Delaying the club for months and then...going on sabbatical!
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898748#msg898748 date=1246540382]
I think Owens departure suited Rafa more than it suited Owen
regards
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I wonder if Rafa would have let him go if he hadn't have been saddled with Cisse? Anyway, it was Owen's advisors who really deserve all of the bile. Delaying the club for months and then...going on sabbatical!
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or indeed not wanted to bring in Morientes
regards
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898748#msg898748 date=1246540382]
I think Owens departure suited Rafa more than it suited Owen
regards
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I wonder if Rafa would have let him go if he hadn't have been saddled with Cisse? Anyway, it was Owen's advisors who really deserve all of the bile. Delaying the club for months and then...going on sabbatical!
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or indeed not wanted to bring in Morientes
regards
TalkSport are now saying he's in talks with ManUre.
[quote author=Markeh link=topic=34487.msg898788#msg898788 date=1246543537]
has no one mentioned he's supposed to be talking to man u today
dunno what to make of that :-\
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Would be very sad to see him with a scum shirt on his back. If he went there, he would score loads and get back in the England squad no doubt.
has no one mentioned he's supposed to be talking to man u today
dunno what to make of that :-\
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Would be very sad to see him with a scum shirt on his back. If he went there, he would score loads and get back in the England squad no doubt.
[quote author=koze link=topic=34487.msg898819#msg898819 date=1246545168]
It's irrelevant. Owen wanted to leave.
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and you really know that?
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It's irrelevant. Owen wanted to leave.
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and you really know that?
regards
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[quote author=Wilko7 link=topic=34487.msg898667#msg898667 date=1246536310]
Grijt, I'm afraid you have shit for brains. Sorry to break this news to you although I'm sure that you has a seeking suspicion, eh?
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"I'm sure that you has a seeking suspicion" - and it's me with "shit for brains"? You thick cunt.
I'm not entirely sure that one of the bigger clubs will break cover for Owen, but then again most, if not all, have infinitely better back up options than we do.
I wont be surprised if/when Man U do come in for him to see a load of bleating on here about "twice a judas" "why didnt we use his friendship with carra and Gerrard" "weve missed out" etc etc etc.
Why not just do the deal now and get it wrapped up. 40k on a 1yr +1yr deal is about the same money you'd have to pay Jason Roberts.
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Oh silly me, skipped a letter whilst typing on my phone. Happens from time to time. You probably messed up your punctuation because of the same reason. Haven't noticed you on the forum for a while. When were you released?
[quote author=Wilko7 link=topic=34487.msg898667#msg898667 date=1246536310]
Grijt, I'm afraid you have shit for brains. Sorry to break this news to you although I'm sure that you has a seeking suspicion, eh?
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"I'm sure that you has a seeking suspicion" - and it's me with "shit for brains"? You thick cunt.
I'm not entirely sure that one of the bigger clubs will break cover for Owen, but then again most, if not all, have infinitely better back up options than we do.
I wont be surprised if/when Man U do come in for him to see a load of bleating on here about "twice a judas" "why didnt we use his friendship with carra and Gerrard" "weve missed out" etc etc etc.
Why not just do the deal now and get it wrapped up. 40k on a 1yr +1yr deal is about the same money you'd have to pay Jason Roberts.
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Oh silly me, skipped a letter whilst typing on my phone. Happens from time to time. You probably messed up your punctuation because of the same reason. Haven't noticed you on the forum for a while. When were you released?
Now now ladies, I dont think either of you mean those nasty words. Kiss and make up.
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[quote author=koze link=topic=34487.msg898819#msg898819 date=1246545168]
It's irrelevant. Owen wanted to leave.
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And that's why he will never be loved as God was.
I bet Robbie will rather retire than join that shower.
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Indeed.
[quote author=koze link=topic=34487.msg898819#msg898819 date=1246545168]
It's irrelevant. Owen wanted to leave.
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And that's why he will never be loved as God was.
I bet Robbie will rather retire than join that shower.
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Indeed.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898791#msg898791 date=1246543857]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=34487.msg898762#msg898762 date=1246540994]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898750#msg898750 date=1246540441]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898748#msg898748 date=1246540382]
I think Owens departure suited Rafa more than it suited Owen
regards
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Yes. And that's an another issue
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Very likely,but Rafa didn't instigate his departure.
The pictures are funny,but I think only a few genuinely enjoy whats happened to Owen
His fate genuinely makes me sad.
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I think that is a widely held and much flawed assumption Avvy
regards
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You're of the view that Rafa instigated the move?
And allowed the agents to run the contract down to ensure we got peanuts for him?
Can't agree,Vladders.
Anyway, if he wears the Scum shirt, I don't care what anyone says.
And I don't care what he's done for us..and he did a lot for us.
If he goes to Old Trafford, he's scum.
In more ways than one.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=34487.msg898762#msg898762 date=1246540994]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=34487.msg898750#msg898750 date=1246540441]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898748#msg898748 date=1246540382]
I think Owens departure suited Rafa more than it suited Owen
regards
[/quote]
Yes. And that's an another issue
[/quote]
Very likely,but Rafa didn't instigate his departure.
The pictures are funny,but I think only a few genuinely enjoy whats happened to Owen
His fate genuinely makes me sad.
[/quote]
I think that is a widely held and much flawed assumption Avvy
regards
[/quote]
You're of the view that Rafa instigated the move?
And allowed the agents to run the contract down to ensure we got peanuts for him?
Can't agree,Vladders.
Anyway, if he wears the Scum shirt, I don't care what anyone says.
And I don't care what he's done for us..and he did a lot for us.
If he goes to Old Trafford, he's scum.
In more ways than one.
Especially if (as is being reported) he takes their offer of a pay-as-you-play deal, when he (reportedly at least) turned down a similar offer from us.
michael owen is a fucking gimp.
I think there are too many people making a judgment on what they think they know, or interpreting history to suit their opinions.
Even when Owen was scoring goals for fun, and dragging us through game after game, just like Gerrard of recent years, and being a model professional, he was being maligned, and was never going to be the same darling of the populous as Robbie was. Why should it be any different now?
I don't particularly want him back, he has seen better days, but the disrespect he is shown based on no more than speculation is a scandal.
regards
Even when Owen was scoring goals for fun, and dragging us through game after game, just like Gerrard of recent years, and being a model professional, he was being maligned, and was never going to be the same darling of the populous as Robbie was. Why should it be any different now?
I don't particularly want him back, he has seen better days, but the disrespect he is shown based on no more than speculation is a scandal.
regards
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898944#msg898944 date=1246556314]
I think there are too many people making a judgment on what they think they know, or interpreting history to suit their opinions.
Even when Owen was scoring goals for fun, and dragging us through game after game, just like Gerrard of recent years, and being a model professional, he was being maligned, and was never going to be the same darling of the populous as Robbie was. Why should it be any different now?
I don't particularly want him back, he has seen better days, but the disrespect he is shown based on no more than speculation is a scandal.
regards
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Are poor maligned Mikey's delaying tactics in the FINAL YEAR of his contract and the shameful shite with his agent taking a sabbatical speculation?
I think there are too many people making a judgment on what they think they know, or interpreting history to suit their opinions.
Even when Owen was scoring goals for fun, and dragging us through game after game, just like Gerrard of recent years, and being a model professional, he was being maligned, and was never going to be the same darling of the populous as Robbie was. Why should it be any different now?
I don't particularly want him back, he has seen better days, but the disrespect he is shown based on no more than speculation is a scandal.
regards
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Are poor maligned Mikey's delaying tactics in the FINAL YEAR of his contract and the shameful shite with his agent taking a sabbatical speculation?
I have always felt a bit of sympathy foe Micheal, regards the way he has been treated by our fans. HOWEVER if he does sign for them scummy cunts, then I will join the club and wish him nothing but misfortune.
[quote author=Wilko7 link=topic=34487.msg898948#msg898948 date=1246556577]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898944#msg898944 date=1246556314]
I think there are too many people making a judgment on what they think they know, or interpreting history to suit their opinions.
Even when Owen was scoring goals for fun, and dragging us through game after game, just like Gerrard of recent years, and being a model professional, he was being maligned, and was never going to be the same darling of the populous as Robbie was. Why should it be any different now?
I don't particularly want him back, he has seen better days, but the disrespect he is shown based on no more than speculation is a scandal.
regards
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Are poor maligned Mikey's delaying tactics in the FINAL YEAR of his contract and the shameful shite with his agent taking a sabbatical speculation?
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Owen like every other stupid cunt, associated with Liverpool, could see that Ged was on very thin ice, months before his contract was up, and wanted to see what was going to happen before he signed.
Of course the agent - the stupid prick, they did not have the internet and mobile phones then did they ...oh wait?
Rafa didn't fancy him, he wanted to bring in his own striker, Cisse was more or less forced on him, and so was decidedly cool to Owen , Owen takes the hint and fucks off, anyone that thinks that Owen really wanted a move abroad after he had spent years getting his dream home and stables and family sorted is an oaf.
regards
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=34487.msg898944#msg898944 date=1246556314]
I think there are too many people making a judgment on what they think they know, or interpreting history to suit their opinions.
Even when Owen was scoring goals for fun, and dragging us through game after game, just like Gerrard of recent years, and being a model professional, he was being maligned, and was never going to be the same darling of the populous as Robbie was. Why should it be any different now?
I don't particularly want him back, he has seen better days, but the disrespect he is shown based on no more than speculation is a scandal.
regards
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Are poor maligned Mikey's delaying tactics in the FINAL YEAR of his contract and the shameful shite with his agent taking a sabbatical speculation?
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Owen like every other stupid cunt, associated with Liverpool, could see that Ged was on very thin ice, months before his contract was up, and wanted to see what was going to happen before he signed.
Of course the agent - the stupid prick, they did not have the internet and mobile phones then did they ...oh wait?
Rafa didn't fancy him, he wanted to bring in his own striker, Cisse was more or less forced on him, and so was decidedly cool to Owen , Owen takes the hint and fucks off, anyone that thinks that Owen really wanted a move abroad after he had spent years getting his dream home and stables and family sorted is an oaf.
regards
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