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Well we don't start this season with those points. We all start on zero. I don't expect us to get 97 points again. 80s maybe. Let's be honest, there were games where we got a couple of fortunate last minute winners. Can't rely on that again. And we don't have more squad support, that's kinda my point?
Spurs have strengthened and look like they're keeping hold of a couple of strong players who looked set to leave. They won't lose that many games again.
I'd say it'll be a LOT closer between us two this season, and I think with our thin squad and extra games, Spurs will edge us in the league. City to run away with it.
All it takes is one of the front 3 to be out for a few games and we're relying on Origi or Brewster. An injury to Trent or Robbo and fuck knows who fills in there, but it will seriously hamstring us.
Midfield I'm not too worried about because I expect Keita to be fitter and better, but you just don't know.
But as I said, extra games, threadbare squad, bit of an anomaly of a season (I don't want to say fluke because it sounds undeserved) and I think we're playing with fire.
Back to your 26 points thing. Something just came to me. We made 25 points on City in one year. Why couldn't Spurs do the ssme to us? They've added well, and clearly have a good side. I don't think overall we're 26 points better than them. The teams are a lot closer than that. Just look at the 3 games against them last season.
The chasing pack are certainly trying to close the gap.
A couple of big injuries and we’ll be goosed.
A couple of big injuries and we’ll be goosed.
Well he did invent it
Dybala not going to Spurs is good though. Though I've never seen him play, he is highly rated.
Yep.
Two years ago, City fans didn't see us as a rival in the league.
New season and bar Manure, any of those clubs can do what we did this past year.
They’re not getting Dybala
The same people should also think its a new season regarding us beating City to the title.
And win CL in his first season? Hope not
If any of those other clubs get 97 points I'll personally come round and clean your toilets.
Not one of them has improved to be better than us.
Let's make it 1 point less than the league champions (us obviously)?
I'll supply you the whiskey and/or beer.
So all of a sudden "To flush or not To flush?" is the important question....
So our only rival is weaker?
Sure they've all (bar Chelsea) made more signings than us.
But when you look at it in depth I'd say only Utd have improved.
Arsenal haven't addressed their problems, I don't think Tierney is better than Kolasinac personally...
I know City spent big on Rodri and Cancelo over Fernandinho and Walker but I see that as more like for like than upgrading....very difficult to make that City side stronger anyway.
Chelsea are in a transition period, best player gone and now new manage so will have to adapt to new style of play.
If Spurs manage to keep all their players (again) then they'd have improved slightly too.....all that changes if someone sign Eriksen.. Really like N'dombele and he'll play a big part for them this season.
But when you look at it in depth I'd say only Utd have improved.
Arsenal haven't addressed their problems, I don't think Tierney is better than Kolasinac personally...
I know City spent big on Rodri and Cancelo over Fernandinho and Walker but I see that as more like for like than upgrading....very difficult to make that City side stronger anyway.
Chelsea are in a transition period, best player gone and now new manage so will have to adapt to new style of play.
If Spurs manage to keep all their players (again) then they'd have improved slightly too.....all that changes if someone sign Eriksen.. Really like N'dombele and he'll play a big part for them this season.
No. The same as last season minus luck = mid to low 80's in points.
Take a look at the advanced metrics
I think we can.
Alright we haven't bought anyone. We are the same team as last year, who were good enough to win a European Cup. So thats OK with me, even though I would have liked to see another attacking option. I think we are massively gambling on Mane and Salah staying fit for the whole season. When those two arent there, the quality drop off is evident.
But I don't think City have improved either. I dont know anything about the CM they bought. Fernandinho is a year older and his legs are on the way out. Same with Aguero, he looked like he was on a downturn last year, he's not the player he was. And Kompany has gone. The only plus for them is that De Bruyne is fit again (but for how long).
I do think we have to worry about Spurs though. They have bought well and were a pretty good team last season already. They wont be 26 points behind us this year. They are a danger.
Agreed re City, but not sure about Spurs. If Eriksen leaves then thats a blow for them.
I'm not exposing myself to the possibility of having to do this after an Arsenal-style title win of 75 points!
That's not how football works. Our rivals collectively had a 3% chance of beating us last year, which resulted in one loss. Nobody is saying they need a collective 51% chance, that's beside the point. The point is their improvement and our stagnation gives them a 9% chance this time, which will now result in three losses, thus ending our title hopes.
We have not stagnated. If we finish 5th or something this season then we have. Right now we have the most coveted squad in Europe, the best manager we could possibly have, and are coming off the back of a record points haul and number 6.
Fuck the doomsayers.
I mean the squad has stagnated because it's the same as last year, aside from a couple of extra teenagers.
Mate, you're not exposing yourself - just washing my sinks ... ;-)
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