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rurikbird

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Chelsea are wiping the floor with Athletico. Only 1:0 for now, but the teams look a class apart.

Bayern leading 1:0 against Lazio, looks comfortable for them.
 
Also this kind of refutes the argument that we should have signed Suarez. For all his amazing impact in La Liga he still doesn’t have a single CL goal for Atletico and here he was completely nullified; didn’t look like scoring or creating at any point.
 
Also this kind of refutes the argument that we should have signed Suarez. For all his amazing impact in La Liga he still doesn’t have a single CL goal for Atletico and here he was completely nullified; didn’t look like scoring or creating at any point.

Not sure how that refutes it - Suarez or Divock to back up or take minutes form Bobby this year? Still Divock?
 
Not sure how that refutes it - Suarez or Divock to back up or take minutes form Bobby this year? Still Divock?

Not quite a fair comparison since Suarez earns more than twice than Divock - they are in different categories. Suarez is a star in La Liga.

Red card now. Atletico are done.
 
Not quite a fair comparison since Suarez earns more than twice than Divock - they are in different categories. Suarez is a star in La Liga.

Red card now. Atletico are done.

So then it doesn't refute it -

I think that's a poor decision from the ref. Cheating from Rudiger.
 
So then it doesn't refute it -

I think that's a poor decision from the ref. Cheating from Rudiger.

Yeah, and Atletico should have had a penalty in the first half too. Roman bought the referee just in case.

What I’m saying is that there is a good chance Suarez would have been ineffective in the EPL on this evidence (and evidence of not scoring outside La Liga). So you can have a cheap day ineffective sub, or a very expensive one.
 
Simeone really has fizzled in the CL - as he should have last year too.
Fucking commentators mentioning Liverpool again ...
Chelsea are going to be a very very dangerous outfit next year.
 
Yeah, and Atletico should have had a penalty in the first half too. Roman bought the referee just in case.

What I’m saying is that there is a good chance Suarez would have been ineffective in the EPL on this evidence (and evidence of not scoring outside La Liga). So you can have a cheap day ineffective sub, or a very expensive one.

Don't see it - I think he'd have easily had ~15 goals considering the chances we create and having less attention on him due to Salah/Mane.
This Madrid team, despite the outrageous attacking talent they possess, just doesn't create much.
 
Don't see it - I think he'd have easily had ~15 goals considering the chances we create and having less attention on him due to Salah/Mane.
This Madrid team, despite the outrageous attacking talent they possess, just doesn't create much.

I think it’s more likely he would have been gassed after 30 minutes and physically dominated by most Premier League defenders.
 
I think it’s more likely he would have been gassed after 30 minutes and physically dominated by most Premier League defenders.

Nah - his fitness isn't the issue but who knows.
I'm sure we won't care next year when Bobby is backing up Haaland ... and Mbappe.
 
A.Madrid - what an absolute shite team, with shit tactics, it was like watching a bunch of pedestrians, utter garbage. Talent some of you say ? - what a load of shit. Words cannot describe how bad they were tonight against Chelsea or is it that Chelsea are so good now ?- I don't know anymore.
 
Rüdiger with some horrendous play acting, but its probably a red card regardless.
Should have been a penalty to Atletico in the first half.
The Italian ref didnt give Atletico anything the entire game.

We’ll get Chelsea in the QF. Plastic cunts.
 
Also this kind of refutes the argument that we should have signed Suarez. For all his amazing impact in La Liga he still doesn’t have a single CL goal for Atletico and here he was completely nullified; didn’t look like scoring or creating at any point.

Suarez has 10 CL goals in the last 5 seasons. In 3 of those seasons he failed to score more than 1 goal. It's not just this year, he's had a poor return at the highest level for a while. But if anybody was in doubt of how he'd do in the PL they should rewatch the Chelsea game, he was miles off the pace. The let's get Luis back idea needs to die, fast.
 
Don't see it - I think he'd have easily had ~15 goals considering the chances we create and having less attention on him due to Salah/Mane.
This Madrid team, despite the outrageous attacking talent they possess, just doesn't create much.

Genuine question but have you actually watched him play in the last 2 years? His pace has completely gone, he doesn't really press anymore, and he's generally dead after about an hour, and that's in Spain. He's still an excellent finisher but the things that made him great are no longer there. Barca binned him because you cannot have a front 3 where 2 of them just loiter around upfront waiting for the ball, with Messi its a price Wirth paying because the rest of his game is arguably the best in the world, with Suarez its not.

Hes too expensive to sit on the bench for 30 games a season at most clubs but he's not mobile enough to be a starter. If people think Thiago is struggling to match the intensity of the PL then you definitely don't want to see Suarez back.
 
Plus acted a complete cnt predictablly over 2 legs with Barca, he can fck off and if season this couldn’t any more annoying to watch Suarez diving, mouthing and biting his way through it. He can stay in Spain as he had always wanted, enjoy the retirement...
 
Genuine question but have you actually watched him play in the last 2 years? His pace has completely gone, he doesn't really press anymore, and he's generally dead after about an hour, and that's in Spain. He's still an excellent finisher but the things that made him great are no longer there. Barca binned him because you cannot have a front 3 where 2 of them just loiter around upfront waiting for the ball, with Messi its a price Wirth paying because the rest of his game is arguably the best in the world, with Suarez its not.

Hes too expensive to sit on the bench for 30 games a season at most clubs but he's not mobile enough to be a starter. If people think Thiago is struggling to match the intensity of the PL then you definitely don't want to see Suarez back.

Yup - watched Barca games last year. Haven't watched many Athleti games this year - but that's because they often bore me! As Klopp said last year, and most of us echo, you have some phenomenal footy players and they just play boring shite.
We've also both watched Bobby and Divock this year, and I feel Suarez could have easily contributed more than both of them where it counts (winning games where you need to take that chance or two, and as you say, "He's still an excellent finisher "). I never wanted Suarez to play week in, week out. Spot starter and 30-40 minutes to replace Bobby ... I think it would have made a difference to our season.
I think there's two differences between Thiago and Suarez - 1) one loves the physicality and 2) one has the experience of this league. Both make a difference.
 
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I just don't want Chelsea or city winning it...

Munich for city please and Dortmund for Chelsea
 
Didnt know Tuchel had previous as an actor:

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In order, we want................

Porto
Dortmund
Madrid
Chelsea
PSG
City
Munich
 
I just don't want Chelsea or city winning it...

Munich for city please and Dortmund for Chelsea
Dortmund?! I want Porto or Dortmund .. the two outsiders. Or failing them Real. I'm amazed that we are still 4th in the bookies listings, ahead of Chelsea and Real.

City 9/4
Bayern 3/1
PSG 5/1
Liverpool 13/2
Chelsea 8/1
Real 12/1
Dortmund 16/1
Porto 33/1
 
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