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Whether it is 1.5M as the Mirror alleges, zero, or two bits of fuck all - it is indeed beocming clear that Rafa's not got the budget or permission to spend what he thought he would have when he put pen to paper on his new contract a few months back.

Knowing Rafa as well all do, I think it's pretty safe to say that at some point in the next whenever, we will hear from him about this. And it aint going to be pretty.

Goodness knows when that will be, but all it's going to take are a few more results like Sunday, combined with a few sideways glances at the plethora of reserves and teenagers sitting on the same bench as him, for our own dear Rafa to vent.

And vent he will.
 
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=35297.msg926834#msg926834 date=1250563412]
More shite about Rafa from the tabloids.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/new...s-just-1-5million-to-spend-article119267.html

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez left devastated after owners tell him he has just £1.5million to spend
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It's a doom mongering article, but it is starting to have the stench truth about it. The whole summer I thought that we would leave it late, mostly due to the fact that the market was so skewed that we would have to let the capitalists buy their shiny toys before the real business could begin.

It isn't looking that way though now, it's starting to look like this is really a disaster of a summer.

As Ryan says, a couple performances like we saw and Rafa will generate some copy, partially because he wants to deflect blame, and partly because it's absolutely justified. Further, if there has actually been a reversal in the amount of money quoted, any manager would be absolutely livid.

He got us closer than we've been in ages, and I firmly believe we have taken a step backwards. He deserved the chance of success on his own terms. If he isn't, it will mean our ownership has held us back, it will mean protests, it will mean shitty press.

We need a signing, and we need some good performances. A bad start to this season could have us out of it quite early. I can feel the dampness of retard drool as sportswriters monitor this situation.
 
The Times are running with this now too...

From Times Online August 18, 2009

Rafael Benítez options limited in search for defensive reinforcements

Tony Barrett

Rafael Benítez, the Liverpool manager, will step up his pursuit of much-needed central-defensive reinforcements in the coming days, armed with a budget of no more than £2 million.

Despite having recouped at least as much as he has spent in the transfer market this summer, Benítez has been told that there are no significant funds available to supplement his first-team squad and is scouring the bargain basement for a potential recruit.

Liverpool scouts were at the Britannia Stadium on Saturday to watch the highly rated Ryan Shawcross score in Stoke City’s 2-0 win over Burnley, but with the 21-year-old valued in the region of £8 million, any player move would only be made possible if at least one member of Benítez’s squad was sold first.

Given his paucity of options in central defence, Benítez knew that he had to recruit in that position before Sunday’s 2-1 defeat away to Tottenham Hotspur. That he was forced to send on Daniel Ayala, the 18-year-old, for his Barclays Premier League debut when Martin Skrtel suffered a jaw injury, reinforced this belief.

The situation is even more grave given that Daniel Agger’s back injury shows no signs of clearing up and, with the Denmark defender unavailable for the visit of Stoke to Anfield tomorrow, Benítez will have only two senior centre backs available if, as expected, Skrtel is passed fit.

Unless Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr, the Liverpool owners, release the purse strings then Benítez will have to trim his squad to bring in the funds he needs or sign a cheaper centre back, even if he does not meet the Spaniard’s standards.

It is all a long way removed from the day, a little more than two years ago, when Gillett gave an interview after Liverpool’s Champions League final defeat by AC Milan in which he said: “If Rafa said he wanted to buy ‘Snoogy Doogy’ we would back him.â€

Benítez has wheeled and dealed this summer but has made only two significant signings, Glen Johnson, the right back, and Alberto Aquilani, the injured midfield player, for a combined total of about £36 million.

This outlay has been more than matched by the proceeds from the sales of Xabi Alonso, Ãlvaro Arbeloa and Sebastián Leto, as well as Adam Hammill, Jack Hobbs and Paul Anderson, the squad players, for an estimated £38 million.

The Liverpool owners argue that the club must be run as a business and made it clear that pay increases handed out to Fernando Torres, Steven Gerrard, Dirk Kuyt, Yossi Benayoun and Agger would be subtracted from the money made available to Benítez.
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=35297.msg926848#msg926848 date=1250567636]
Hmm on the other side we would want to see our club go the way of LEEDS UTD.
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That is your dream? And you like to believe it?
 
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=35297.msg926847#msg926847 date=1250567060]
The Times as well?

Well well!

Could it be morsels fed to the press?
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Barrett's got close ties at the club allegedly, so we've gotta take this seriously.

I'd say the Stoke pre-match press conference could be very interesting.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35297.msg926858#msg926858 date=1250571058]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=35297.msg926847#msg926847 date=1250567060]
The Times as well?

Well well!

Could it be morsels fed to the press?
[/quote]

Barrett's got close ties at the club allegedly, so we've gotta take this seriously.

I'd say the Stoke pre-match press conference could be very interesting.
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I asked for a table, they gave me a tablecloth and said better luck next year.
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=35297.msg926859#msg926859 date=1250571174]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35297.msg926858#msg926858 date=1250571058]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=35297.msg926847#msg926847 date=1250567060]
The Times as well?

Well well!

Could it be morsels fed to the press?
[/quote]

Barrett's got close ties at the club allegedly, so we've gotta take this seriously.

I'd say the Stoke pre-match press conference could be very interesting.
[/quote]

I asked for a table, they gave me a tablecloth and said better luck next year.
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Maybe he will use English metaphor here.

"I asked for a car but they want me to rent a bicycle"
 
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=35297.msg926860#msg926860 date=1250571494]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=35297.msg926859#msg926859 date=1250571174]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35297.msg926858#msg926858 date=1250571058]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=35297.msg926847#msg926847 date=1250567060]
The Times as well?

Well well!

Could it be morsels fed to the press?
[/quote]

Barrett's got close ties at the club allegedly, so we've gotta take this seriously.

I'd say the Stoke pre-match press conference could be very interesting.
[/quote]

I asked for a table, they gave me a tablecloth and said better luck next year.
[/quote]

Maybe he will use English metaphor here.

"I asked for a car but they want me to rent a bicycle"
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I asked for David Silva and they said "No, and by-the-way you have to sell Riera too we need the money".
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=35297.msg926897#msg926897 date=1250579448]
I asked for David Silva and they said "No, and by-the-way you have to sell Riera too we need the money".
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I mean, ours weren't masterfully crafted to say the least, but jesus, at least have a go. Wow.
 
i'm brought to the brink of tears everytime i think of what could have been and the two motherfuckers we've ended up with. i will never forgive moores and parry and hope they end up bankrupt and homeless after selling out our club for personal gain.

there is no successful team out there that is self sufficient but to give us a fighting chance the least we'd need was a bigger stadium but hey who fucked that one up.

i don't like rafa but on this occasion its clear he's been had and when the outbursts start we'll know what exactly has happened.
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=35297.msg926899#msg926899 date=1250579583]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=35297.msg926897#msg926897 date=1250579448]
I asked for David Silva and they said "No, and by-the-way you have to sell Riera too we need the money".
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I mean, ours weren't masterfully crafted to say the least, but jesus, at least have a go. Wow.
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Jaysus Farky, my effort was an attempt to disprove your effort. Yours suggest that Rafa went to the Yanks looking for funds for a good player but was told there were only funds for a dud. My effort suggests that Rafa went looking for funds for said good player and was told "No" and also told he had to SELL one of his good players.

Synapses not exactly sparking this morning are they?
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=35297.msg926908#msg926908 date=1250580379]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=35297.msg926899#msg926899 date=1250579583]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=35297.msg926897#msg926897 date=1250579448]
I asked for David Silva and they said "No, and by-the-way you have to sell Riera too we need the money".
[/quote]

I mean, ours weren't masterfully crafted to say the least, but jesus, at least have a go. Wow.
[/quote]

Jaysus Farky, my effort was an attempt to disprove your effort. Yours suggest that Rafa went to the Yanks looking for funds for a good player but was told there were only funds for a dud. My effort suggests that Rafa went looking for funds for said good player and was told "No" and also told he had to SELL one of his good players.

Synapses not exactly sparking this morning are they?
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I asked for a fourth table leg, and they gave me a TV dinner.

See, that's how we play this game.

What, you've never furnished a house?
 
Let's be optimistic - the budget's gone up £500,000 between the Mirror and the Times' reports. By next week we might have £10m again. It's obviously internal politics. There's not much point in speculating about what's really happening - we can only wait anxiously to see what the reality turns out to be.
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=35297.msg926910#msg926910 date=1250580738]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=35297.msg926908#msg926908 date=1250580379]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=35297.msg926899#msg926899 date=1250579583]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=35297.msg926897#msg926897 date=1250579448]
I asked for David Silva and they said "No, and by-the-way you have to sell Riera too we need the money".
[/quote]

I mean, ours weren't masterfully crafted to say the least, but jesus, at least have a go. Wow.
[/quote]

Jaysus Farky, my effort was an attempt to disprove your effort. Yours suggest that Rafa went to the Yanks looking for funds for a good player but was told there were only funds for a dud. My effort suggests that Rafa went looking for funds for said good player and was told "No" and also told he had to SELL one of his good players.

Synapses not exactly sparking this morning are they?
[/quote]

I asked for a fourth table leg, and they gave me a TV dinner.

See, that's how we play this game.

What, you've never furnished a house?
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You've left me no option now Farky but to be rude (in years to come you'll thank me for this)....................... Farky you moron stop fucking babbling, get a grip, and most importantly, stop fucking spouting shite about 3 legged tables and tablecloths. I'm going for my morning espresso now but if I come back and find you doing more "home improvements" there'll be serious trouble.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35297.msg926837#msg926837 date=1250565056]
Whether it is 1.5M as the Mirror alleges, zero, or two bits of fuck all - it is indeed beocming clear that Rafa's not got the budget or permission to spend what he thought he would have when he put pen to paper on his new contract a few months back.

Knowing Rafa as well all do, I think it's pretty safe to say that at some point in the next whenever, we will hear from him about this. And it aint going to be pretty.

Goodness knows when that will be
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It'd better be soon, or the transfer window will have shut and his protests will be useless. I expect this article is timed to produce a few banners and chants at the Stoke match.
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35297.msg926919#msg926919 date=1250581611]
Let's be optimistic - the budget's gone up £500,000 between the Mirror and the Times' reports. By next week we might have £10m again. It's obviously internal politics. There's not much point in speculating about what's really happening - we can only wait anxiously to see what the reality turns out to be.
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Soon there will be news that Rafa never wanted to sell Xabi..... but blah blah
 
If it's true, then that's a nice little summer by the owners - zero expenditure.

Rafa should have asked them for Snoogy Doogy!
 
Truth, a tactical line from Liverpool or tabloid bollocks? We really don't know, but we might have our own suspicions, dependant on what we want to believe.
I wonder if we are after one, or more, of the surplus Real Madrid players, and saying this to strengthen our hand for a loan rather than be forced to buy.
The real truth is we could do without all this speculation and shite again at the start of the season, it's hard enough being a fan at the best of times.
If the article is correct, and I am not the greatest of Benitez fans, that it is true, but I think it is fair to say he needs to be backed on this occasion, at the moment he is £4m in profit, and that does not take into account the return on Keane, or what he might have expected for his annual "pot".
I am not sure about the need for another centre back. As it is , when Agger is fit, we are going to have him or Skrtle on the bench looking glum. We really do need some more fire power up front.
This window promised so much, and it needed to if we were to step up and seems to have delivered little, we have a full back that is possibly a better option that the one we had (although when we spent £17m on a right back it looked like he had money to burn), and a midfielder who is possibly not as good as the one we had to let go. A window where our fiercest rivals actually looked weakened. There are some days left, I hope we have not have missed a trick on this one, but more than this I hope the good ship Liverpool has a chipper skipper at the helm, and not a sullen , morose and scheming one.


regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35297.msg926935#msg926935 date=1250583125]
Truth, a tactical line from Liverpool or tabloid bollocks? We really don't know, but we might have our own suspicions, dependant on what we want to believe.
I wonder if we are after one, or more, of the surplus Real Madrid players, and saying this to strengthen our hand for a loan rather than be forced to buy.
The real truth is we could do without all this speculation and shite again at the start of the season, it's hard enough being a fan at the best of times.
If the article is correct, and I am not the greatest of Benitez fans, that it is true, but I think it is fair to say he needs to be backed on this occasion, at the moment he is £4m in profit, and that does not take into account the return on Keane, or what he might have expected for his annual "pot".
I am not sure about the need for another centre back. As it is , when Agger is fit, we are going to have him or Skrtle on the bench looking glum. We really do need some more fire power up front.
This window promised so much, and it needed to if we were to step up and seems to have delivered little, we have a full back that is possibly a better option that the one we had (although when we spent £17m on a right back it looked like he had money to burn), and a midfielder who is possibly not as good as the one we had to let go. A window where our fiercest rivals actually looked weakened. There are some days left, I hope we have not have missed a trick on this one, but more than this I hope the good ship Liverpool has a chipper skipper at the helm, and not a sullen , morose and scheming one.


regards


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Agreed and all that but the morsels are being fed to the sharks and the water is churning and may soon be boiling with blood?
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35297.msg926935#msg926935 date=1250583125]
Truth, a tactical line from Liverpool or tabloid bollocks? We really don't know, but we might have our own suspicions, dependant on what we want to believe.
I wonder if we are after one, or more, of the surplus Real Madrid players, and saying this to strengthen our hand for a loan rather than be forced to buy.
The real truth is we could do without all this speculation and shite again at the start of the season, it's hard enough being a fan at the best of times.
If the article is correct, and I am not the greatest of Benitez fans, that it is true, but I think it is fair to say he needs to be backed on this occasion, at the moment he is £4m in profit, and that does not take into account the return on Keane, or what he might have expected for his annual "pot".
I am not sure about the need for another centre back. As it is , when Agger is fit, we are going to have him or Skrtle on the bench looking glum. We really do need some more fire power up front.
This window promised so much, and it needed to if we were to step up and seems to have delivered little, we have a full back that is possibly a better option that the one we had (although when we spent £17m on a right back it looked like he had money to burn), and a midfielder who is possibly not as good as the one we had to let go. A window where our fiercest rivals actually looked weakened. There are some days left, I hope we have not have missed a trick on this one, but more than this I hope the good ship Liverpool has a chipper skipper at the helm, and not a sullen , morose and scheming one.


regards


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I agree. As soon as we sold Alonso every player agents wanted to link to us suddenly doubled in price. So I quite expected a 'we're broke' routine to follow. The whole centre back 'search' utterly bewilders me - apart from going for someone like Campbell on a short term deal, it makes no sense to spend much, if at all, on back-up for that position.
 
Telegraphs too...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...el-Benitez-has-just-1.5-million-to-spend.html

According to the Express, Benitez's dealings so far this year mean the Merseyside club has made a profit of at least £10 million. Substantial sums came in following the sales of Xabi Alonso (£30m) and Robbie Keane (£16m) yet Benitez has been left unable to bring in replacements for crucial positions.

Looks like they are quoting one another... the sharks are smelling blood and are circling.
 
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=35297.msg926952#msg926952 date=1250585300]
the sharks are smelling blood and are circling.
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Have you been eating cheese? 😉
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35297.msg926962#msg926962 date=1250585699]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=35297.msg926952#msg926952 date=1250585300]
the sharks are smelling blood and are circling.
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Have you been eating cheese? 😉
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LOL, could it be Leicester, Cheddar or one of the variety of Blue Cheeses?
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=35297.msg926859#msg926859 date=1250571174]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35297.msg926858#msg926858 date=1250571058]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=35297.msg926847#msg926847 date=1250567060]
The Times as well?

Well well!

Could it be morsels fed to the press?
[/quote]

Barrett's got close ties at the club allegedly, so we've gotta take this seriously.

I'd say the Stoke pre-match press conference could be very interesting.
[/quote]

I asked for a table, they gave me a tablecloth and said better luck next year.
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More like a napkin Farky.
 
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