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NFL Off Season (Draft, FAs, coaching carousel)

I did not say we were not making any additions, I said the only thing we are really lacking is leadership, we get that and we are in.

This week the paperwork should be finalized, and we will be on our own, we will try and come up but my schedule is crazy.
 
But that's not ALL you're lacking at all...

You lack a QB who has proven he can get it done when it matters. In fact, you lack a QB with a tangible attitude to take football seriously enough to do what it takes to be in a position to win. There are serious (and legitmate) questions about Romo's desire to really be a leader and top QB.

You lack a Head Coach that anybody takes seioulsy - It's well known that JJ is the boss, so he has 0 creditibilty. As long as he's there, you're f#$!ed.

You lack an owner with the desire or discipline to stay out of things and allow football men to run the show... Until he stops interfering, and hiring "yes men" to "coach", you're f#$!ed. You've only been a force when he let the other JJ run the show - The second he left, you started declining...

You have an aging WR who, apart from tearing the dressing room apart is also bound to become less productive with each passing season. You have another WR who should be among the league's best (he cost you enough) and he's just not, for some reason.

Your secondary is weak, to say the least.

You have the game's best TE and a running game that should be very effective. But you have so many holes elsewhere that you cannot be considered a true potential champion until at least some of them are adressed.

And most importantly, when push comes to shove, you don't (seem to) have enough players with the required will to win.

Without massive changes in personel at all levels of your organization, there is no reason to envision anything but more of the same from this team.
 
I'll get back to you on this, today is Friday for me and my brain is fried.

You do make some good points though.
 
i think you're being overly harsh there ...

Brett Favre wasn't a QB who got 'it done when it matters' and yet, still won a super bowl and did a lot of good in his career. Sure, Romo has acted bloody 'young' - but his talent is there and he's about to reach his 'best' years. Hopefully that means, maturity wise too.

Funny, how serious did our D turn once Wade took it over? Guess that's 'serious' enough.

the 'another WR' didn't have any time to work with a healthy ROmo. Give him a training camp before you judge him so harshly. I wouldn't be surprised to see him hit 80 catches and 1000 yards.

Your secondary is weak, to say the least

no, our SS safety position is shit, the rest is ok to excellent. Newman? Pro Bowlers. Hamelin? solid FS. Scandrick? Solid rookie campaign. Henry? Solid veteran (though short on speed). Jenkins? Solid rookie. So 'weak is again harsh.

But you have so many holes elsewhere that you cannot be considered a true potential champion until at least some of them are adressed.

Funny, you could have said that about the Giants two years ago ... Football isn't about 'holes' - unless it's what the O-line is creating.

And most importantly, when push comes to shove, you don't (seem to) have enough players with the required will to win.

I think this is true to a degree ... Two years ago, no one thought anything of the 'Boys and they went 13-3. Last year, we just 'expected' to win every game and went 9-7. I think this year will tell if the above is true of these guys - I think somehow, you'll be left disappointed.
 
Wiz,

I luv ya, but you're a total waste of time when it comes to discussing this mob.

I'll pick just one point to rebuff, for time's sake - The defense: You got 'serious' when Wade took over, alright.

You did reasonably well for a short while, yes. But let's not pretend that either San Fran or Seattle are offensive juggernauts. You played very well Vs Washington & New York, yes.
You did enough to win Vs Pittsburg, but didn't. Not the fault of the defense, granted. Mind you, while they were superb for 3 quarters of that game, they clearly tired in the 4th, when the game was there to be won.

But what is defense's legacy for the 2008 season, mate? I'll tell you...

When you had to win just one of your remaining two games to make the playoffs - in other words, when you should have been fighting as if your lives depended upon it - you gave up a combined 77 points.

33 of them were against a team with a rookie QB and nothing but a reasonable running game.

Your defense capitulated in the season's two most important games.

The end.

You are the most blinded-by-your-love-of-a-team-which-is-strange-'cos-he's usually-very-openminded bloke I've ever come across.

Don't go changin' Vacero...
 
so based on two games, which the defense basically flunked (Baltimore was 2 bad plays, but the offense let us down horribly in the beginning, or the Eagles, where the WHOLE team didn't show up) - they didn't show up? The defense responded to him ... it's just was far too little, far too late (and let's not blame the defense for the loss against Pittsburgh - the offense blew that one).

Btw, that 'team with a rookie QB' - how did they do in the playoffs? Better than the Pats? Better than the Titans, one of the top teams in the playoffs? "rookie" ... You would have taken this 'rookie QB's' first season for both your teams last year - says it all about that 'rookie QB and nothing but a reasonable running game' team ...
 
They were the two biggest games of the season, mate - They were life and death to your team. Rationalize is anyway you want to - They didn't get it done when they had to... I see you focus on the Ravens game, by the way - How 'bout Philly? A win in that one would have gotten them in too...

Avy, I don't give a shite about the Cowboys, mate - But I live here, and I'm listening to the sports talk radio, the players, the coaches, the owner, the fans, etc... And I'm completely unbiased when discussing them.

This is a team that has gone 9 - 7 three of the past four years, hasn't won a playoff game in 12 years now, is in complete disarray in the dressingroom, has a puppet for a headcoach (who now forbidden from speaking to the media, by the way) and has an owner on the world's largest power trip.

Why you think ANYTHING is gonna change is beyond me.

But, you go right ahead and keep telling yourself that you're an elite team and that next year you'll be champions.
 
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You go right ahead and keep telling yourself that you're an elite team and that next year you'll be champions.
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I didn't say we were an elite team - I think there's enough good players to be one, but things have to change. I don't think we'll be champions unless we pull a NY Giants run in the end ...

How long did the patriots go between winning playoff games btw? Things change radically in the sport ... I hope the cowboys surprise me but I'm not expecting it at all
 
- Thanks Andy

- I hope the Lions win 8 games next year and make the playoffs

- Marvin Harrison, the greatest WR in Colts history, was released yesterday.
 
dedicated to whaaaadaaaaappie:

Jerry Jones' Top 20 Moments

20. On July 18, 1990, the Cowboys began their first training camp in the state of Texas, moving from the previous location of Thousand Oaks, Calif., to St. Edward's University after 27 years.

19. From the start, Jones was considered a maverick owner in the NFL, a guy some thought to be too far outside the box. But on May 1, 1992, Jones was given a seat on the NFL Competition Committee, sanctioning his acceptance into the league by the old guard.

18. The Triplets were forever etched into Cowboys lore as a threesome, Jones in a halftime ceremony on Sept. 19, 2005, inducting Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith into the hallowed Ring of Honor at Texas Stadium.

17. Jones would sign his very first player, the 1989 first pick in the NFL Draft Troy Aikman, on April 20, 1989, prior to the selection day, but it wasn't until Nov. 5, 1989, at RFK Stadium did the Cowboys win their first game of the Jones Era, beating the Redskins 13-3 in the ninth game of the season for what turned out to be their only win that year.

16. The selection and signing of Aikman had a lot to do with this day, March 5, 1993, Jones and the Cowboys shaking hands with President Bill Clinton, the former Arkansas governor, after being invited to the White House to commemorate winning Super Bowl XXVII.

15. Few hires of a head coach become as polarizing as that March 30, 1994 day when Jones hired former Oklahoma head coach Barry Switzer, who had been, as he said, "sitting on his couch" for the past 5 ½ years to become only the third head coach in Cowboys history.

14. After failing in their attempt to win three consecutive Super Bowls, losing the NFC title game in 1994 to San Francisco, Jones signs Niners cornerback Deion Sanders to a lucrative free-agent contract, including a $12.999 million signing bonus since he's superstitious of the No. 13, and Sanders helps the Cowboys that season become the first team to win three Super Bowls in four years.

13. Maybe one of the hardest moments, Jones would have to oversee the ceremony commemorating the final game to be played at Texas Stadium on Dec. 20, 2008, after his club lost a heartbreaking 33-24 decision to the Baltimore Ravens.

12. On a cold Dec. 29, 1991, day at Soldier Field, the Cowboys would defeat the Chicago Bears, 17-13, in a wild-card playoff game for their first playoff victory under Jones and the team's first playoff victory since beating Green Bay, 30-17, on Jan. 16, 1983, during what was known as the Super Bowl Tournament following the strike-shortened 1982 season.

11. Who knew that on April 22, 1990, with the Cowboys frustrated over their inability to select Baylor linebacker James Francis, they would settle for Florida running back Emmitt Smith, who would go on to have a 13-year career with the Cowboys and become the NFL's all-time leading rusher on Oct. 27, 2002, in a game against the Seattle Seahawks at Texas Stadium.

10. Few thought Jones would ever hire an authoritative head coach again, but there he was, on Jan. 2, 2003, announcing Bill Parcells, he of two Super Bowl victories during his coaching career with the New York Giants and another Super Bowl appearance with the New England Patriots. Parcells had been lured out of retirement to become the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

9. This truly was an emotional day and a kick for Jones, presenting Cowboys wide receiver Michael Irvin on Aug. 4, 2007, in Canton, Ohio, during his induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

8. For several years Jones and the Cowboys had been trying to find a spot for a new Cowboys stadium, and that came to an end on Nov. 2, 2004, when the City of Arlington approved a tax referendum to build the stadium just west of the Texas Rangers' ballpark. Less than two years later, on April 10, 2006, ground was broken for the $1.1 billion stadium that is scheduled to open on June 6 of this year with a George Strait-Reba McEntire concert, and will be ready for the opening of the 2009 NFL season.

7. This might have been terribly obscured by winning three Super Bowls, playing in four NFC title games, winning six NFC East titles and having won 12 playoff games, but Jones & Co. almost didn't need a plane to fly home the night of Dec. 15, 1991, they were so elated after beating Philadelphia 25-13 at The Vet to clinch the franchise's first playoff berth since 1985. Might not seem like a lot to most, but to Jones and head coach Jimmy Johnson, this was the validation of all their work since taking over the franchise nearly four years earlier. The celebration on the plane was almost Super Bowl-like, since the 10,000-pound gorilla known as the memory of Landry-Schramm-Brandt-Murchison had finally been erased.

6. Beating Pittsburgh 27-17 on Jan. 28, 1996, to win Super Bowl XXX and become the first team in NFL history to win three Super Bowls in four years, almost took a backseat to Jones and Switzer teaming to win the team's first - and what turned out to be the last - Super Bowl without Johnson as the head coach.

5. Few ever thought this would take place, but in a hotel meeting room in Nashville, Tenn., the Cowboys won NFL approval for the first time on May 22, 2007, to play host to Super Bowl XLV. A Super Bowl would never come to North Texas because of the weather that time of year, but the NFL saw fit to award the region a Super Bowl since the Cowboys were building their 100,000-seat retractable roof stadium in Arlington.

4. This March 28, 1994, day shook and surprised the very foundation of the Dallas Cowboys, Jones announcing at a press conference in the same meeting room in which he was introduced as the next franchise owner just more than five years earlier that he and head coach Jimmy Johnson were parting ways. The two had irritated each other at the NFL Meetings earlier in the month, and after intense negotiations seemed to patch things up, seemingly the owner and head coach deciding to give it a go for another season. But, Jones dropped the bombshell that he and Johnson would be breaking up after winning consecutive Super Bowl titles, as inconceivable as that might have seemed.

3. The considered underdog and too-young Cowboys shocked the world on Jan. 31, 1993, at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, Calif., by putting a 52-17 whooping on the thought-to-be seasoned Buffalo Bills, who had been to the previous two Super Bowls. After a slow start, the Cowboys overwhelmed the Bills, grabbing a record nine turnovers along the way. This was the Jones-Johnson Era's first Super Bowl title and the Cowboys' third, but first since Super Bowl XII following the 1977 season.

2. At the time, the media and fans were questioning the sanity of Jones and Johnson, the Cowboys announcing on Oct. 12, 1989, not even with their first season under their belt and no victories in their first five games, the trade of Herschel Walker to the Minnesota Vikings. Walker at the time was considered the team's only proven NFL player, but little did anyone know on that particular day, the trade would turn into five players coming over from the Vikings, along with six conditional draft choices that turned into first-round picks in 1990, 1991 and a portion of 1992s pick before all was said and done. This deal was considered the impetus to the Cowboys' pulling out of their 3-13, 1-15 doldrums to becoming the NFL's Team of The 90s.

1. As improbable as it seemed at the time, the guy being identified in the papers the previous couple of weeks as Jerral Wayne Jones, is presented as just the third owner in Cowboys history on Feb. 25, 1989, the Arkansas oilman purchasing the team from Bum Bright for roughly $140 million. Not only did Jones buy the team, sinking every penny he had into a club that at the time was nearly $20 million in debt, but he also simultaneously fired Tom Landry, the only coach in the team's 29-year history, and hired University of Miami head coach Jimmy Johnson, his Arkansas Razorbacks teammate, to become only the second head coach in club history.

it's been a rough last decade... but you cannot overlook what he's bought to the franchise ...
 
The Redskins reached an agreement Friday morning to keep cornerback DeAngelo Hall, and made him one of the highest paid cornerbacks in football an NFL source said.

Hall accepted a six-year $54 million deal that included $22.5 million in guarantees. The payout of the deal includes $30 million over the first three years.

His agents -- Alvin Keels and Joel Segal -- were ready to explore the free agent market, but the Redskins stepped up and made an offer valued at $9 million per year. The Skins had been at $8.5 million earlier in negotiations, but apparent interest from other team forced Washington to up their offer.
 
Skins just got much much better on their D-Line:

Albert Haynesworth hit the free agent jackpot Friday morning by reaching a seven-year, $100 million deal with the Washington Redskins that could end up maxing out at at $115 million based on his performance, according to sources.

The deal, which was reached early Friday morning, includes $41 million in guarantees. During the first 13 months of the contract, Haynesworth will earn approximately $32 million.
 
34th pick only!?!?

The New England Patriots must be pretty confident Tom Brady's injured knee will be fine next season.

After putting the franchise tag on Matt Cassel as insurance for their two-time Super Bowl MVP, the Patriots shipped Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel to Kansas City on Saturday. The Chiefs gave up shockingly little -- the 34th overall pick in the April draft for both players.

The Chiefs have the third overall selection following a franchise-worst 2-14 season. In yielding their second-round draft choice, they acquire a reliable 12-year veteran linebacker and a proven young quarterback who could immediately fill one of their most urgent needs.

considering how much i hate this player, i'm glad he's out of the NFC East:

The Denver Broncos continued adding to their roster at a torrid pace Saturday, making three key additions on defense.

The team announced it had signed seven-time Pro Bowl safety Brian Dawkins, who spent his previous 13 years with the Philadelphia Eagles.

Highlights of the best sights and sounds from the Philadelphia Eagles' emotional leader.
According to a source, the contract is for five years and $17 million. The deal could escalate to as much as $27 million if Dawkins can reach some achievable performance levels.
 
Interesting move for the Chiefs. I thought they were eyeing up Stafford in the draft so maybe

a) they think the Lions will get him
b) they don't think he'll be good enough
 
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Cowboys acquire veteran Kitna from Lions for Henry
Associated Press


IRVING, Texas -- The Dallas Cowboys took care of one of their top offseason priorities Saturday when they acquired quarterback Jon Kitna as the likely backup for Tony Romo.

The Cowboys got Kitna from Detroit for starting cornerback Anthony Henry. Kitna appeared in only four games last season for the Lions, starting in all of those before being put on injured reserve in mid-October because of a back injury.
The day before the Lions put Kitna on injured reserve, he said his injury wasn't that serious and that he expected to play again during the season. He threw for 758 yards with five touchdowns and five interceptions.

The 36-year-old Kitna, who was due a $1 million roster bonus next week, was not expected to return to the Lions. Kitna, scheduled to make $1.95 million this season, has played 12 NFL seasons with Seattle (1997-2000), Cincinnati (2001-05) and Detroit (2006-08).

When Romo missed three games last season because of a broken pinkie, the Cowboys went 1-2 and leaned heavily on their defense to beat Tampa Bay 13-9 for the lone victory. The Cowboys, who went into the season considered a Super Bowl favorite, instead went 9-7 and missed the playoffs.

Dallas released 17-year veteran quarterback Brad Johnson on Thursday.

Henry started all 16 games for Dallas last season. Orlando Scandrick or Mike Jenkins, both rookies last season, could be in position to take over the starting job.

Kitna could have an interesting introduction to a couple of Dallas defenders.

In the 2006 regular-season finale, Kitna threw four touchdowns passes in a 39-31 victory that wrapped up a 3-13 season for the Lions. In an interview the following week with a radio station in Seattle, where the Cowboys had to go for the playoffs, Kitna called out the Dallas defense, notably cornerback Terence Newman and linebacker Bradie James.

Before the 2007 game Dallas won, Newman indicated during a radio interview his desire for revenge on Kitna. That came about the same time James said the game had been circled on his calendar all year.

"Y'all can ask me about Jon Kitna every day from here on out the rest of my life and I will get fired up," James said then. "He talked like we weren't ever going to play them again."

Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press





Is this Henry any good?
 
henry is a solid CB, nothing spectacular. He's only downside is his inability to stay healthy. He's not very fast but reads the game well and doesn't get beat too often. I am rather surprised by this trade for the Cowboys on two fronts:
1) Henry was going to be one of our 'key' backups in the safety and CB position (though he was traded to give more playing time to Jenkins and Scandrick)
2) Kitna is a very solid NFL QB. I cannot remember the last time we had this capable a backup (Capable = better than Brad Johnson and me)
 
CLEARWATER, Fla. -- Detroit Lions defensive end Corey Smith and Oakland Raiders linebacker Marquis Cooper were among four boaters missing Sunday off Florida's Gulf Coast, the Coast Guard and their agents said.

Smith and Cooper were on a 21-foot vessel that left Clearwater Pass on Saturday morning for a fishing trip and did not return as expected, the Coast Guard said Sunday. Crews used a helicopter and a 47-foot boat to search a 750-square mile area west of Clearwater Pass on Sunday.

"We are in contact with the Coast guard and Corey's family has been informed," Smith's agent Ron Del Duca told ESPN.com's Bill Williamson. "Corey is one of the good guys out there. We're just waiting for more information and hoping for the best."

Troy Asmus, one of Cooper's agents, said he has been in contact with the NFL and that the league is aware of the situation.

"I have been in contact with the Coast Guard and they are continuing to work hard to find everyone," Asmus told Williamson. "We are hoping and praying for the best."

Cooper owned the boat and he and Cooper had been on fishing trips before, Del Duca said. The pair had been teammates on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2004. The Coast Guard said the two others were aboard, identified as Will Bleakley and Nick Schuyler, but they did not provide other details. Bleakley is a former USF tight end who last played in 2006, and Schuyler was a walk on who was on the 2006 USF roster. Calls to the school by The Associated Press were not immediately returned.

Smith, 29, had 30 tackles, including three sacks, and an interception in 12 games last season for the winless Lions. Smith, who is 6-foot-2, 250 pounds, also played for the San Francisco 49ers and played college ball at North Carolina State. He lives in Richmond, Va.

Del Duca said Smith was planning to start visiting teams as a free agent this week.

Cooper, 26, has played five seasons with the Buccaneers, Seahawks, Jaguars, Steelers and Raiders. He appeared in 26 games with the Buccaneers in 2004 and 2005, recording 30 tackles. He has played sparingly since as he has bounced between teams, appearing in 13 games and recording 10 tackles. Cooper, who is 6-foot-3, 230 pounds, played college ball at Washington. His hometown is Mesa, Ariz.

Rick Davis, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Tampa, said seas were about 2 to 4 feet Saturday morning and increased to 3 to 5 feet in the afternoon. Late Saturday night, a small craft advisory was issued, when winds were around 20 knots and seas were up to 7 feet or more. There were no thunderstorms in the area.

Davis said the water was "extremely rough and choppy" on Sunday afternoon.

Lions spokesman Bill Keenist and Raiders senior executive John Hererra said the teams are monitoring reports.

"First and foremost, however, is that our thoughts and prayers are with all the passengers, their families and all those involved in the search efforts," the Lions said in a team release
 
Giants have signed ex Cowboy DE Chris Canty to a 6 yr, 42 mill contract ... I liked Canty a lot ... Good luck to him but I hope he never sees the playoffs again! 😉
 
Can't read that link on my phone, what is it? I know Detroit were after Cutler. If so it means no Stafford to either them or the chiefs, so maybe san Fran?
 
CLEARWATER, Fla. (AP)—After three days of combing 24,000 miles of ocean, the Coast Guard on Tuesday stopped searching for two NFL players and a third man lost in rough, chilly Gulf of Mexico waters off the Florida coast.

Oakland Raiders linebacker Marquis Cooper, free-agent defensive lineman Corey Smith, who played with the Detroit Lions last season, and former South Florida player William Bleakley, had been missing since Saturday when their boat capsized during a fishing trip.

Bleakley’s father said he thought the Coast Guard did everything it could and that his expectations lowered after only one survivor was found Monday, nearly two days after the four friends were knocked out of their 21-foot boat.

“I think they were not to be found,†Robert Bleakley said.

Coast Guard Capt. Timothy Close said officials were sure that if there were any more survivors, they would have been found.

Crews did rescue Bleakley’s former South Florida teammate, 24-year-old Nick Schuyler, who managed to stay with the boat.
 
Warner resigns with the Cards, 2 years, 23 mill ... I hope they re-sign Boldin ... That offense is just fun to watch.

Bengals sign Laverneus Coles

Seattle signs TJ Houafddafdadfdasfdafdamadesh
 
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Any news on Ray Lewis yet? Last I heard was the jets.
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re-signed it seems with baltimore, who've also signed Birk (C)
 
wow ... big news from Big D ... au revoir TO:

The Dallas Cowboys have released controversial wide receiver Terrell Owens, sources told ESPN's Michael Smith late Wednesday.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones did not deny the team is discussing the possible release of Owens in late February.

"There are several decisions on our roster we have to look at," Jones said at the time. "This is the time of year we do that. I'm not trying to be trite, but as you all know we're evaluating players in college, we're evaluating free agents and we're evaluating our own roster. This is an ongoing thing, not any different than this time last year."

The Cowboys paid Owens a $12 million signing bonus just last year, included as part of a new four-year, $34 million deal. Dallas will take a roughly $9 million salary cap hit with the release of Owens.

There has been talk since the end of the Cowboys' 9-7 season, in which they missed the playoffs, that they would consider cutting Owens to improve locker room morale.

Not only did Owens have relationship issues with quarterback Tony Romo and tight end Jason Witten, but the receiver consistently criticized offensive coordinator Jason Garrett's play calling and his offensive schemes to the point that sources say Garrett does not believe they can coexist.

While the Cowboys were trying to downplay a possible rift between Owens and Witten during the season, the two reportedly came close to blows in mid-December.

An incident occurred at the Cowboys' training facility when Witten tried to engage Owens in a conversation about a pass route. Owens told Witten to stay away from him and called him a name. The two exchanged words before being separated.

The confrontation came a day after a source told ESPN that Owens believed Romo and Witten -- close friends and road roommates -- hold private meetings and create plays without including Owens.

Former Cowboys coach Bill Parcells, even though he endorsed bringing in Owens, never got along with the receiver.

"You've gotta realize than Bill bought into Terrell joining our team and don't think Terrell didn't come to this team without Bill's blessing," Cowboys owner Jerry Jone said in an interview with a Dallas TV station last week, referencing Parcells. "He wanted to win and use the talents of Terrell as much as anyone in this organization ... the entire time Bill was coach they never spoke."

Owens caught 69 passes for 1,052 yards and 10 touchdowns this season.
 
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