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I reckon he'll do something like this..
Reina
Johnson Carra Skrtel Konch
Shelvey Meirles
Pacheco Gerrard Jova
Torres
Reina
Johnson Carra Skrtel Konch
Shelvey Meirles
Pacheco Gerrard Jova
Torres
I may make plans to count some rice tomorrow night...
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I remember us all moaning at the last team we fielded in Europe and making plans to watch paint dry, and then the team pulled out the best performance of the season.
True. It was a FAMOUS RESULT last time against Napoli.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42570.msg1210902#msg1210902 date=1288809803]
Reina
Konchesky
Skrtel
Carragher
Johnson
Spearing
Poulsen
Meireles
Jovanovic
Shelvey
N'gog
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Cheers Oncey.
I don't know why Roy persists with putting Meireless out on the right.
He always looked comletely lost there while he has looked more than decent in the centre mid position.
Reina
Konchesky
Skrtel
Carragher
Johnson
Spearing
Poulsen
Meireles
Jovanovic
Shelvey
N'gog
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Cheers Oncey.
I don't know why Roy persists with putting Meireless out on the right.
He always looked comletely lost there while he has looked more than decent in the centre mid position.
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211141#msg1211141 date=1288851208]
So we're playing two DMs? And 2 CMs with one on the right wing and one at AM?
Roy, you hapless hapless moron.
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It's a reserves team, in a shite competition, and we've got Chelsea on Sunday. Give him a (slight) break.
So we're playing two DMs? And 2 CMs with one on the right wing and one at AM?
Roy, you hapless hapless moron.
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It's a reserves team, in a shite competition, and we've got Chelsea on Sunday. Give him a (slight) break.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42570.msg1211143#msg1211143 date=1288851845]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211141#msg1211141 date=1288851208]
So we're playing two DMs? And 2 CMs with one on the right wing and one at AM?
Roy, you hapless hapless moron.
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It's a reserves team, in a shite competition, and we've got Chelsea on Sunday. Give him a (slight) break.
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Is it? He's playing Reina, Konchesky, Skrtel, Carra, Johnson, Meireles, Poulsen. Something tells me he's taking this seriously and playing what he thinks is a 'strong' side. Only it's not.
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211141#msg1211141 date=1288851208]
So we're playing two DMs? And 2 CMs with one on the right wing and one at AM?
Roy, you hapless hapless moron.
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It's a reserves team, in a shite competition, and we've got Chelsea on Sunday. Give him a (slight) break.
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Is it? He's playing Reina, Konchesky, Skrtel, Carra, Johnson, Meireles, Poulsen. Something tells me he's taking this seriously and playing what he thinks is a 'strong' side. Only it's not.
Roy's in a bit of a no win situation really, we've got a thin squad and he'd be stupid to risk Gerrard and Torres. It's still an accomplished backline, the likes of Shelvey need a chance, and besides, they more than proved themselves in Italy, so why not infront of our own fans?
I don't really know what else Hodgson can do here. If he put the stars out and we lost any of them for the Chelsea game he'd be crucified. He picks a slightly weakened team (containing players who did well in the away fixture) and he's still wrong.
I don't really know what else Hodgson can do here. If he put the stars out and we lost any of them for the Chelsea game he'd be crucified. He picks a slightly weakened team (containing players who did well in the away fixture) and he's still wrong.
Well, the only two players we're really missing are Torres and Gerrard. I've got no problems with Roy resting them.
I do think we should go all out to win this game however because I'm unless I'm mistaken, if we win this we've pretty much qualified. And then we can really just forget about Europe as we enter the busy winter period.
I do think we should go all out to win this game however because I'm unless I'm mistaken, if we win this we've pretty much qualified. And then we can really just forget about Europe as we enter the busy winter period.
I have no issues with Gerrard and Torres being rested either. I do have an issue with Poulsen playing and Meireles stuck out wide on the right. It's stupid and serves no purpose. As it stands, we have an insipid midfield and will look entirely to Shelvey to create whatever he can. We might not lose but we'll have a horribly difficult time trying to score. When that situation can be remedied by a minor change in formation and personnel without weakening your defence/increasing your chances of conceding, you have to question the team selection.
I can't believe Lucas is getting a rest ahead of Meireles.
Just play the cunt till he gets injured or improves i say...
This would have been the perfect game to play Kelly and Johnson on the right flank.
Just play the cunt till he gets injured or improves i say...
This would have been the perfect game to play Kelly and Johnson on the right flank.
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I can't believe Lucas is getting a rest ahead of Meireles.
Just play the cunt till he gets injured or improves i say...
This would have been the perfect game to play Kelly and Johnson on the right flank.
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He is not resting Meireles because he wants to see him on the right prior to the Chelsea game, when Poulsen comes in the middle and MAxi moves to the left.
I can't believe Lucas is getting a rest ahead of Meireles.
Just play the cunt till he gets injured or improves i say...
This would have been the perfect game to play Kelly and Johnson on the right flank.
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He is not resting Meireles because he wants to see him on the right prior to the Chelsea game, when Poulsen comes in the middle and MAxi moves to the left.
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211171#msg1211171 date=1288856880]
It's not about picking a 'weakened' team at all. Do you think anyone has a problem with the fact that Shelvey and Spearing are starting? Not at all. It's about being over-cautious and playing players out of position.
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Oh right yeah, because we have loads of options at our disposal don't we?
Like I said, he can't fucking win.
It's not about picking a 'weakened' team at all. Do you think anyone has a problem with the fact that Shelvey and Spearing are starting? Not at all. It's about being over-cautious and playing players out of position.
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Oh right yeah, because we have loads of options at our disposal don't we?
Like I said, he can't fucking win.
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[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211171#msg1211171 date=1288856880]
It's not about picking a 'weakened' team at all. Do you think anyone has a problem with the fact that Shelvey and Spearing are starting? Not at all. It's about being over-cautious and playing players out of position.
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Oh right yeah, because we have loads of options at our disposal don't we?
Like I said, he can't fucking win.
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Well he hasnt done himself to many favours in that winning department so far the cunning old fox 😉
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211171#msg1211171 date=1288856880]
It's not about picking a 'weakened' team at all. Do you think anyone has a problem with the fact that Shelvey and Spearing are starting? Not at all. It's about being over-cautious and playing players out of position.
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Oh right yeah, because we have loads of options at our disposal don't we?
Like I said, he can't fucking win.
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Well he hasnt done himself to many favours in that winning department so far the cunning old fox 😉
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211173#msg1211173 date=1288857306]
I have no issues with Gerrard and Torres being rested either. I do have an issue with Poulsen playing and Meireles stuck out wide on the right. It's stupid and serves no purpose. As it stands, we have an insipid midfield and will look entirely to Shelvey to create whatever he can. We might not lose but we'll have a horribly difficult time trying to score. When that situation can be remedied by a minor change in formation and personnel without weakening your defence/increasing your chances of conceding, you have to question the team selection.
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He's just bought Poulsen so he needs to give him 'some' playing time, at least he's wise to the fact that he's struggling in the league and so has ditched the idea of two DM's in most games. As for being overcautious. Why? Because he's played one player out of position? How many options have we got in the middle? Lucas? Gerrard is rightly being rested. Outwide? Torres and Maxi took knocks on Sunday aswell, Kuyt is still out, Cole is out, Pacheco is a kid who everyone is clinging to as the Messiah because he's Spanish and he hasn't played much.
What did you want him to do? Aside from playing Pacheco and putting Shelvey in the centre at the expense of Poulsen, that's pretty much what we've got.
I have no issues with Gerrard and Torres being rested either. I do have an issue with Poulsen playing and Meireles stuck out wide on the right. It's stupid and serves no purpose. As it stands, we have an insipid midfield and will look entirely to Shelvey to create whatever he can. We might not lose but we'll have a horribly difficult time trying to score. When that situation can be remedied by a minor change in formation and personnel without weakening your defence/increasing your chances of conceding, you have to question the team selection.
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He's just bought Poulsen so he needs to give him 'some' playing time, at least he's wise to the fact that he's struggling in the league and so has ditched the idea of two DM's in most games. As for being overcautious. Why? Because he's played one player out of position? How many options have we got in the middle? Lucas? Gerrard is rightly being rested. Outwide? Torres and Maxi took knocks on Sunday aswell, Kuyt is still out, Cole is out, Pacheco is a kid who everyone is clinging to as the Messiah because he's Spanish and he hasn't played much.
What did you want him to do? Aside from playing Pacheco and putting Shelvey in the centre at the expense of Poulsen, that's pretty much what we've got.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42570.msg1211214#msg1211214 date=1288863873]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211173#msg1211173 date=1288857306]
I have no issues with Gerrard and Torres being rested either. I do have an issue with Poulsen playing and Meireles stuck out wide on the right. It's stupid and serves no purpose. As it stands, we have an insipid midfield and will look entirely to Shelvey to create whatever he can. We might not lose but we'll have a horribly difficult time trying to score. When that situation can be remedied by a minor change in formation and personnel without weakening your defence/increasing your chances of conceding, you have to question the team selection.
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He's just bought Poulsen so he needs to give him 'some' playing time, at least he's wise to the fact that he's struggling in the league and so has ditched the idea of two DM's in most games. As for being overcautious. Why? Because he's played one player out of position? How many options have we got in the middle? Lucas? Gerrard is rightly being rested. Outwide? Torres and Maxi took knocks on Sunday aswell, Kuyt is still out, Cole is out, Pacheco is a kid who everyone is clinging to as the Messiah because he's Spanish and he hasn't played much. What did you want him to do? Aside from playing Pacheco and putting Shelvey in the centre at the expense of Poulsen, that's pretty much what we've got.
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That he was the best player in Europe U20 tournament surely counts for something besides his spanish passport?
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211173#msg1211173 date=1288857306]
I have no issues with Gerrard and Torres being rested either. I do have an issue with Poulsen playing and Meireles stuck out wide on the right. It's stupid and serves no purpose. As it stands, we have an insipid midfield and will look entirely to Shelvey to create whatever he can. We might not lose but we'll have a horribly difficult time trying to score. When that situation can be remedied by a minor change in formation and personnel without weakening your defence/increasing your chances of conceding, you have to question the team selection.
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He's just bought Poulsen so he needs to give him 'some' playing time, at least he's wise to the fact that he's struggling in the league and so has ditched the idea of two DM's in most games. As for being overcautious. Why? Because he's played one player out of position? How many options have we got in the middle? Lucas? Gerrard is rightly being rested. Outwide? Torres and Maxi took knocks on Sunday aswell, Kuyt is still out, Cole is out, Pacheco is a kid who everyone is clinging to as the Messiah because he's Spanish and he hasn't played much. What did you want him to do? Aside from playing Pacheco and putting Shelvey in the centre at the expense of Poulsen, that's pretty much what we've got.
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That he was the best player in Europe U20 tournament surely counts for something besides his spanish passport?
Of course it does, but he does get overhyped because he's pretty much the only player in the reserves that looks like getting close to first team action. I want him to play, but he's more or less the only option there that Roy could have plumped for but hasn't. Ideally it'd be Pacheco on the right or in the hole, with Meireles going into centre mid and Poulsen dropping out. I don't want to see Poulsen play, but like I said Roy has to at least try to justify his purchase and at least he's not being stubborn and playing him in the Premiership to prove a point, unlike some managers who would.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42570.msg1211214#msg1211214 date=1288863873]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211173#msg1211173 date=1288857306]
I have no issues with Gerrard and Torres being rested either. I do have an issue with Poulsen playing and Meireles stuck out wide on the right. It's stupid and serves no purpose. As it stands, we have an insipid midfield and will look entirely to Shelvey to create whatever he can. We might not lose but we'll have a horribly difficult time trying to score. When that situation can be remedied by a minor change in formation and personnel without weakening your defence/increasing your chances of conceding, you have to question the team selection.
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He's just bought Poulsen so he needs to give him 'some' playing time, at least he's wise to the fact that he's struggling in the league and so has ditched the idea of two DM's in most games. As for being overcautious. Why? Because he's played one player out of position? How many options have we got in the middle? Lucas? Gerrard is rightly being rested. Outwide? Torres and Maxi took knocks on Sunday aswell, Kuyt is still out, Cole is out, Pacheco is a kid who everyone is clinging to as the Messiah because he's Spanish and he hasn't played much.
What did you want him to do? Aside from playing Pacheco and putting Shelvey in the centre at the expense of Poulsen, that's pretty much what we've got.
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Yes, exactly. And it gives the team a wholly different dimension immediately. You take a useless plodding DM out of your midfield and insert a dynamic/creative midfielder like Shelvey or Meireles in there. It further frees up a position in the attacking thid where you have the option of playing Pacheco/Amoo/Maxi/Suso instead of plonking a perfectly good CM in Meireles/Shelvey out wide on the right. Minor change - significant impact.
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211173#msg1211173 date=1288857306]
I have no issues with Gerrard and Torres being rested either. I do have an issue with Poulsen playing and Meireles stuck out wide on the right. It's stupid and serves no purpose. As it stands, we have an insipid midfield and will look entirely to Shelvey to create whatever he can. We might not lose but we'll have a horribly difficult time trying to score. When that situation can be remedied by a minor change in formation and personnel without weakening your defence/increasing your chances of conceding, you have to question the team selection.
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He's just bought Poulsen so he needs to give him 'some' playing time, at least he's wise to the fact that he's struggling in the league and so has ditched the idea of two DM's in most games. As for being overcautious. Why? Because he's played one player out of position? How many options have we got in the middle? Lucas? Gerrard is rightly being rested. Outwide? Torres and Maxi took knocks on Sunday aswell, Kuyt is still out, Cole is out, Pacheco is a kid who everyone is clinging to as the Messiah because he's Spanish and he hasn't played much.
What did you want him to do? Aside from playing Pacheco and putting Shelvey in the centre at the expense of Poulsen, that's pretty much what we've got.
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Yes, exactly. And it gives the team a wholly different dimension immediately. You take a useless plodding DM out of your midfield and insert a dynamic/creative midfielder like Shelvey or Meireles in there. It further frees up a position in the attacking thid where you have the option of playing Pacheco/Amoo/Maxi/Suso instead of plonking a perfectly good CM in Meireles/Shelvey out wide on the right. Minor change - significant impact.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42570.msg1211249#msg1211249 date=1288869276]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=42570.msg1211245#msg1211245 date=1288868948]
Is this a Channel 5 or Itv7 game? 8pm kick off?
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It's 8:05 ko on Channel 5 mate...
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Cheers i'll go to the pub then
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=42570.msg1211245#msg1211245 date=1288868948]
Is this a Channel 5 or Itv7 game? 8pm kick off?
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It's 8:05 ko on Channel 5 mate...
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Cheers i'll go to the pub then
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211248#msg1211248 date=1288869219]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42570.msg1211214#msg1211214 date=1288863873]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211173#msg1211173 date=1288857306]
I have no issues with Gerrard and Torres being rested either. I do have an issue with Poulsen playing and Meireles stuck out wide on the right. It's stupid and serves no purpose. As it stands, we have an insipid midfield and will look entirely to Shelvey to create whatever he can. We might not lose but we'll have a horribly difficult time trying to score. When that situation can be remedied by a minor change in formation and personnel without weakening your defence/increasing your chances of conceding, you have to question the team selection.
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He's just bought Poulsen so he needs to give him 'some' playing time, at least he's wise to the fact that he's struggling in the league and so has ditched the idea of two DM's in most games. As for being overcautious. Why? Because he's played one player out of position? How many options have we got in the middle? Lucas? Gerrard is rightly being rested. Outwide? Torres and Maxi took knocks on Sunday aswell, Kuyt is still out, Cole is out, Pacheco is a kid who everyone is clinging to as the Messiah because he's Spanish and he hasn't played much.
What did you want him to do? Aside from playing Pacheco and putting Shelvey in the centre at the expense of Poulsen, that's pretty much what we've got.
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Yes, exactly. And it makes the team a wholly different dimension immediately. You take a useless plodding DM out of your midfield and insert a dynamic/creative midfielder like Shelvey or Meireles in there. It further frees up a position in the attacking thid where you have the option of playing Pacheco/Amoo/Maxi/Suso instead of plonking a perfectly good CM in Meireles/Shelvey out wide on the right. Minor change - significant impact.
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It's not a massively unexpected side though nor is it particularly defensive other than it being more or less a forced lineup because of a lack of options available, the only differences really could have been Pacheco or Babel coming in and neither have suggested they'd make a significant difference anyway.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42570.msg1211214#msg1211214 date=1288863873]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=42570.msg1211173#msg1211173 date=1288857306]
I have no issues with Gerrard and Torres being rested either. I do have an issue with Poulsen playing and Meireles stuck out wide on the right. It's stupid and serves no purpose. As it stands, we have an insipid midfield and will look entirely to Shelvey to create whatever he can. We might not lose but we'll have a horribly difficult time trying to score. When that situation can be remedied by a minor change in formation and personnel without weakening your defence/increasing your chances of conceding, you have to question the team selection.
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He's just bought Poulsen so he needs to give him 'some' playing time, at least he's wise to the fact that he's struggling in the league and so has ditched the idea of two DM's in most games. As for being overcautious. Why? Because he's played one player out of position? How many options have we got in the middle? Lucas? Gerrard is rightly being rested. Outwide? Torres and Maxi took knocks on Sunday aswell, Kuyt is still out, Cole is out, Pacheco is a kid who everyone is clinging to as the Messiah because he's Spanish and he hasn't played much.
What did you want him to do? Aside from playing Pacheco and putting Shelvey in the centre at the expense of Poulsen, that's pretty much what we've got.
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Yes, exactly. And it makes the team a wholly different dimension immediately. You take a useless plodding DM out of your midfield and insert a dynamic/creative midfielder like Shelvey or Meireles in there. It further frees up a position in the attacking thid where you have the option of playing Pacheco/Amoo/Maxi/Suso instead of plonking a perfectly good CM in Meireles/Shelvey out wide on the right. Minor change - significant impact.
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It's not a massively unexpected side though nor is it particularly defensive other than it being more or less a forced lineup because of a lack of options available, the only differences really could have been Pacheco or Babel coming in and neither have suggested they'd make a significant difference anyway.
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