Michael Owen
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Maybe this will be the encouragement he needs to stay at Newcastle as if he does, he may win a trophy next year.
I can NEVER forgive him for:
1) Fuckin us about for a WHOLE Season pretending he's going to sign 'soon.'
2) Fucking off to "The Biggest Club in the World" as the clock struck 12, leaving us with no recognized attacker for the upcoming season.
Loyalty, my friends.
1) Fuckin us about for a WHOLE Season pretending he's going to sign 'soon.'
2) Fucking off to "The Biggest Club in the World" as the clock struck 12, leaving us with no recognized attacker for the upcoming season.
Loyalty, my friends.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=33719.msg874014#msg874014 date=1243184994]
AND he travels to training in a helicoptor.
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Ha, is that true? Outrageous.
edit: actually I think I read once that Fowler did the same at Cardiff?
AND he travels to training in a helicoptor.
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Ha, is that true? Outrageous.
edit: actually I think I read once that Fowler did the same at Cardiff?
to be fair;
no owen transfer = no alonso and garcia = no CL cup.
no owen transfer = no alonso and garcia = no CL cup.
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Squiggles
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I hate this "Michael Owen is a cunt" shit. He's one of the finest strikers ever to play in a red shirt and deserves a certain amount of respect.
The turnaround in his fortunes has been remarkable, and the decision to leave is up there with the all time worst transfers.
Hating him for it seems completely pointless.
The turnaround in his fortunes has been remarkable, and the decision to leave is up there with the all time worst transfers.
Hating him for it seems completely pointless.
my only regret is we didn't sell him sooner and get his true value.
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Squiggles
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=33719.msg874017#msg874017 date=1243185101]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=33719.msg874016#msg874016 date=1243185063]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=33719.msg874014#msg874014 date=1243184994]
AND he travels to training in a helicoptor.
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Ha, is that true? Outrageous.
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Yeah.
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He picks up Nicky Butt too apparently.
Both live in the North West.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=33719.msg874016#msg874016 date=1243185063]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=33719.msg874014#msg874014 date=1243184994]
AND he travels to training in a helicoptor.
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Ha, is that true? Outrageous.
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Yeah.
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He picks up Nicky Butt too apparently.
Both live in the North West.
One of the best strikers to ever play for Liverpool
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33719.msg874020#msg874020 date=1243185152]
to be fair;
no owen transfer = no alonso and garcia = no CL cup.
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How's that Spidey? He left on the last day of the transfer window?
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rafa himself has said the owen money went towards alonso and garcia.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33719.msg874020#msg874020 date=1243185152]
to be fair;
no owen transfer = no alonso and garcia = no CL cup.
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How's that Spidey? He left on the last day of the transfer window?
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rafa himself has said the owen money went towards alonso and garcia.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33719.msg874027#msg874027 date=1243185336]
One of the best strikers to ever play for Liverpool
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we we certainly saw the best of him that's for sure.
One of the best strikers to ever play for Liverpool
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we we certainly saw the best of him that's for sure.
He won us so many games. He was a model professional off the pitch. His 'advisors' were/are beneath comment, but he's one of the club's great products of the past thirty years, and, IMHO, he deserves more than a bit of respect. What's happened to him since? He ought to want to murder his pathetic agent, who messed the club about for months and then...went on 'sabbatical', but that's for him and his conscience. It's a tragedy, in every sense, what's happened.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33719.msg874027#msg874027 date=1243185336]
One of the best strikers to ever play for Liverpool
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You see Bren, I agree, he was a great player for us - but the way he left us, made me sick to the stomach.
Lies, deceit, greed....whatever.
Compare and contrast Keegan and Rush who never fucked us about; they told the fans their intentions, however painful a pill to swallow that was.
One of the best strikers to ever play for Liverpool
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You see Bren, I agree, he was a great player for us - but the way he left us, made me sick to the stomach.
Lies, deceit, greed....whatever.
Compare and contrast Keegan and Rush who never fucked us about; they told the fans their intentions, however painful a pill to swallow that was.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33719.msg874034#msg874034 date=1243185450]
He won us so many games. He was a model professional off the pitch. His 'advisors' were/are beneath comment, but he's one of the club's great products of the past thirty years, and, IMHO, he deserves more than a bit of respect. What's happened to him since? He ought to want to murder his pathetic agent, who messed the club about for months and then...went on 'sabbatical', but that's for him and his conscience. It's a tragedy, in every sense, what's happened.
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Sheesh, I forgot that 'sabbatical' bullshit....his agent disappearing for 5 months, whilst conveniently counting down to his Bosman in the process.
He won us so many games. He was a model professional off the pitch. His 'advisors' were/are beneath comment, but he's one of the club's great products of the past thirty years, and, IMHO, he deserves more than a bit of respect. What's happened to him since? He ought to want to murder his pathetic agent, who messed the club about for months and then...went on 'sabbatical', but that's for him and his conscience. It's a tragedy, in every sense, what's happened.
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Sheesh, I forgot that 'sabbatical' bullshit....his agent disappearing for 5 months, whilst conveniently counting down to his Bosman in the process.
That was a disgrace. I'm absolutely amazed it hasn't inspired some kind of revelatory article, at the very least. Who has an agent who goes on holiday, effectively, for half a damn year? It was a shockingly awful thing for the club - any club - to tolerate. We should have said what any other company would have said, 'Have a nice time, tell us who'll deal with us in your absence'. But us, no, we just waited! Incredible.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33719.msg874059#msg874059 date=1243186410]
That was a disgrace. I'm absolutely amazed it hasn't inspired some kind of revelatory article, at the very least. Who has an agent who goes on holiday, effectively, for half a damn year? It was a shockingly awful thing for the club - any club - to tolerate. We should have said what any other company would have said, 'Have a nice time, tell us who'll deal with us in your absence'. But us, no, we just waited! Incredible.
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the club were afraid to pull the trigger.
That was a disgrace. I'm absolutely amazed it hasn't inspired some kind of revelatory article, at the very least. Who has an agent who goes on holiday, effectively, for half a damn year? It was a shockingly awful thing for the club - any club - to tolerate. We should have said what any other company would have said, 'Have a nice time, tell us who'll deal with us in your absence'. But us, no, we just waited! Incredible.
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the club were afraid to pull the trigger.
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33719.msg874059#msg874059 date=1243186410]
That was a disgrace. I'm absolutely amazed it hasn't inspired some kind of revelatory article, at the very least. Who has an agent who goes on holiday, effectively, for half a damn year? It was a shockingly awful thing for the club - any club - to tolerate. We should have said what any other company would have said, 'Have a nice time, tell us who'll deal with us in your absence'. But us, no, we just waited! Incredible.
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the club were afraid to pull the trigger.
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That;s beacuse he was one of our main assets/weapons at the time. In a hindsight they should have given him an ultimatum - sign an extension or leave. But hindsight is easy.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33719.msg874059#msg874059 date=1243186410]
That was a disgrace. I'm absolutely amazed it hasn't inspired some kind of revelatory article, at the very least. Who has an agent who goes on holiday, effectively, for half a damn year? It was a shockingly awful thing for the club - any club - to tolerate. We should have said what any other company would have said, 'Have a nice time, tell us who'll deal with us in your absence'. But us, no, we just waited! Incredible.
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the club were afraid to pull the trigger.
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That;s beacuse he was one of our main assets/weapons at the time. In a hindsight they should have given him an ultimatum - sign an extension or leave. But hindsight is easy.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33719.msg874027#msg874027 date=1243185336]
One of the best strikers to ever play for Liverpool
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Correct.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33719.msg874021#msg874021 date=1243185182]
I hate this "Michael Owen is a cunt" shit. He's one of the finest strikers ever to play in a red shirt and deserves a certain amount of respect.
The turnaround in his fortunes has been remarkable, and the decision to leave is up there with the all time worst transfers.
Hating him for it seems completely pointless.
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Exactly. Some of our "fans" seem to behaving in a very small time fashion. Leave it to the Evertonians.
One of the best strikers to ever play for Liverpool
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Correct.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33719.msg874021#msg874021 date=1243185182]
I hate this "Michael Owen is a cunt" shit. He's one of the finest strikers ever to play in a red shirt and deserves a certain amount of respect.
The turnaround in his fortunes has been remarkable, and the decision to leave is up there with the all time worst transfers.
Hating him for it seems completely pointless.
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Exactly. Some of our "fans" seem to behaving in a very small time fashion. Leave it to the Evertonians.
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=33719.msg874067#msg874067 date=1243186640]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33719.msg874064#msg874064 date=1243186542]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33719.msg874059#msg874059 date=1243186410]
That was a disgrace. I'm absolutely amazed it hasn't inspired some kind of revelatory article, at the very least. Who has an agent who goes on holiday, effectively, for half a damn year? It was a shockingly awful thing for the club - any club - to tolerate. We should have said what any other company would have said, 'Have a nice time, tell us who'll deal with us in your absence'. But us, no, we just waited! Incredible.
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the club were afraid to pull the trigger.
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That;s beacuse he was one of our main assets/weapons at the time. In a hindsight they should have given him an ultimatum - sign an extension or leave. But hindsight is easy.
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It was pretty obvious at the time. We were made to look like idiots.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33719.msg874064#msg874064 date=1243186542]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33719.msg874059#msg874059 date=1243186410]
That was a disgrace. I'm absolutely amazed it hasn't inspired some kind of revelatory article, at the very least. Who has an agent who goes on holiday, effectively, for half a damn year? It was a shockingly awful thing for the club - any club - to tolerate. We should have said what any other company would have said, 'Have a nice time, tell us who'll deal with us in your absence'. But us, no, we just waited! Incredible.
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the club were afraid to pull the trigger.
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That;s beacuse he was one of our main assets/weapons at the time. In a hindsight they should have given him an ultimatum - sign an extension or leave. But hindsight is easy.
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It was pretty obvious at the time. We were made to look like idiots.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33719.msg874064#msg874064 date=1243186542]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33719.msg874059#msg874059 date=1243186410]
That was a disgrace. I'm absolutely amazed it hasn't inspired some kind of revelatory article, at the very least. Who has an agent who goes on holiday, effectively, for half a damn year? It was a shockingly awful thing for the club - any club - to tolerate. We should have said what any other company would have said, 'Have a nice time, tell us who'll deal with us in your absence'. But us, no, we just waited! Incredible.
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the club were afraid to pull the trigger.
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That;s beacuse he was one of our main assets/weapons at the time. In a hindsight they should have given him an ultimatum - sign an extension or leave. But hindsight is easy.
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parry (post macca) - 'we wont allow any player to run down their contract below two years'
if he'd done what he said he was going to do we'd have been quids in because it was patently obvious to anyone with eyes owen was off.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33719.msg874064#msg874064 date=1243186542]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33719.msg874059#msg874059 date=1243186410]
That was a disgrace. I'm absolutely amazed it hasn't inspired some kind of revelatory article, at the very least. Who has an agent who goes on holiday, effectively, for half a damn year? It was a shockingly awful thing for the club - any club - to tolerate. We should have said what any other company would have said, 'Have a nice time, tell us who'll deal with us in your absence'. But us, no, we just waited! Incredible.
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the club were afraid to pull the trigger.
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That;s beacuse he was one of our main assets/weapons at the time. In a hindsight they should have given him an ultimatum - sign an extension or leave. But hindsight is easy.
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parry (post macca) - 'we wont allow any player to run down their contract below two years'
if he'd done what he said he was going to do we'd have been quids in because it was patently obvious to anyone with eyes owen was off.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33719.msg874071#msg874071 date=1243186797]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=33719.msg874067#msg874067 date=1243186640]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33719.msg874064#msg874064 date=1243186542]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33719.msg874059#msg874059 date=1243186410]
That was a disgrace. I'm absolutely amazed it hasn't inspired some kind of revelatory article, at the very least. Who has an agent who goes on holiday, effectively, for half a damn year? It was a shockingly awful thing for the club - any club - to tolerate. We should have said what any other company would have said, 'Have a nice time, tell us who'll deal with us in your absence'. But us, no, we just waited! Incredible.
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the club were afraid to pull the trigger.
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That;s beacuse he was one of our main assets/weapons at the time. In a hindsight they should have given him an ultimatum - sign an extension or leave. But hindsight is easy.
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It was pretty obvious at the time. We were made to look like idiots.
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I agree. I was just being PC towards the club's management at the time.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33719.msg874064#msg874064 date=1243186542]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33719.msg874059#msg874059 date=1243186410]
That was a disgrace. I'm absolutely amazed it hasn't inspired some kind of revelatory article, at the very least. Who has an agent who goes on holiday, effectively, for half a damn year? It was a shockingly awful thing for the club - any club - to tolerate. We should have said what any other company would have said, 'Have a nice time, tell us who'll deal with us in your absence'. But us, no, we just waited! Incredible.
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the club were afraid to pull the trigger.
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That;s beacuse he was one of our main assets/weapons at the time. In a hindsight they should have given him an ultimatum - sign an extension or leave. But hindsight is easy.
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It was pretty obvious at the time. We were made to look like idiots.
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I agree. I was just being PC towards the club's management at the time.
He made his bed and decided to go onto bigger and better things. Whilst being one of our best strikers of all time, he also lead the club right down the garden path regards to signing a contract which he never had any intention of doing, he also spurned the chance of signing for us a second time round by prefering to sign for a nobody club on sky-high wages.
You reap what you sow you little fucking mercenary. He'll fit right in at somewhere like Citeh next season.
You reap what you sow you little fucking mercenary. He'll fit right in at somewhere like Citeh next season.
I wasn't happy that Owen left us and the circumstances of his departure were particularly disappointing. However, wasn't his decision (or at least the decision taken by those advising him), exactly the same as that taken by Keegan, Rush and McManaman to name but three before him? And didn't he also do exactly what Barnes and Gerrard considered doing at various stages of their Liverpool careers (in fact, wouldn't Gerrard to Chelsea have been an even more unforgivable sin?)
I have wondered if many people would have a slightly different opinion of Owen today if we hadn't won the European Cup at the end of the season in which he left us. Didn't winning that numb much of the pain of losing a worldclass striker? And therefore if we hadn't won it, wouldn't we have had cause to regret his departure all the more?
When Owen left us, he was a worldclass striker and in the limited opportunities he had in Spain I think he did enough to confirm he hadn't lost that status. Michael Owen didn't choose Newcastle, he was left with Newcastle. And to a point, I actually feel quite sorry for him tonight. The club he wants to be at doesn't want him. The club he is at has just been relegated and they can probably no longer afford him. Since the age of 18, he was destined to become England's record goalscorer. Not anymore. What would he be now, 7th or 8th choice for his country, at best?
Michael Owen left Liverpool because he wanted to further his career and his income and he thought he could best do that away from the Liverpool team of the time. He was wrong and most of us on here, myself included, would probably claim we could never do what he did as we could never turn our backs on Liverpool. But he did and he's probably regretted it ever since.
If he is back on the market again, I still maintain we could do far worse (although it's unlikely, I know). Get him fit and motivated again and Michael Owen is still a quality footballer.
I have wondered if many people would have a slightly different opinion of Owen today if we hadn't won the European Cup at the end of the season in which he left us. Didn't winning that numb much of the pain of losing a worldclass striker? And therefore if we hadn't won it, wouldn't we have had cause to regret his departure all the more?
When Owen left us, he was a worldclass striker and in the limited opportunities he had in Spain I think he did enough to confirm he hadn't lost that status. Michael Owen didn't choose Newcastle, he was left with Newcastle. And to a point, I actually feel quite sorry for him tonight. The club he wants to be at doesn't want him. The club he is at has just been relegated and they can probably no longer afford him. Since the age of 18, he was destined to become England's record goalscorer. Not anymore. What would he be now, 7th or 8th choice for his country, at best?
Michael Owen left Liverpool because he wanted to further his career and his income and he thought he could best do that away from the Liverpool team of the time. He was wrong and most of us on here, myself included, would probably claim we could never do what he did as we could never turn our backs on Liverpool. But he did and he's probably regretted it ever since.
If he is back on the market again, I still maintain we could do far worse (although it's unlikely, I know). Get him fit and motivated again and Michael Owen is still a quality footballer.
[quote author=leftpeg link=topic=33719.msg874153#msg874153 date=1243192854]
I wasn't happy that Owen left us and the circumstances of his departure were particularly disappointing. However, wasn't his decision (or at least the decision taken by those advising him), exactly the same as that taken by Keegan, Rush and McManaman to name but three before him? And didn't he also do exactly what Barnes and Gerrard considered doing at various stages of their Liverpool careers (in fact, wouldn't Gerrard to Chelsea have been an even more unforgivable sin?)
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No, because they never strung us along for a season promising to sign a new contract, then left us in the lurch on the eve of a new season with a new manager.
I wasn't happy that Owen left us and the circumstances of his departure were particularly disappointing. However, wasn't his decision (or at least the decision taken by those advising him), exactly the same as that taken by Keegan, Rush and McManaman to name but three before him? And didn't he also do exactly what Barnes and Gerrard considered doing at various stages of their Liverpool careers (in fact, wouldn't Gerrard to Chelsea have been an even more unforgivable sin?)
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No, because they never strung us along for a season promising to sign a new contract, then left us in the lurch on the eve of a new season with a new manager.
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