Michael Owen
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Quite, so stop it.
Fair enough, but stop lambasting those who point out that's not a logical position, just an emotional one.
It's an indisputable fact.
Owen's sat on more benches than Morgan's had hot dinners, his arse is practically growing moss
Gotcha! Carry on.
No point in what you're doing now in this thread but trying to wind me up. On ignore.
Sorry mate, I just read back and it seems that your view point on this one is the same as mine.
Quoting Modo's silly question there threw me off.
Macca - MM is right. You haven't been clear. I suggest an open letter to the site.
Ha. In my defence, I had no idea what Macca was trying to say with this:
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I'm bummed that he thinks I'm trying to wind him up though. He's one of my favourite posters.
Except when he gets emotionally charged, takes everything personally, and starts thinking everyone is against him.
This being ignored thing is pretty cool. I can be honest about Macca now without him getting defensive and leaving the site.
Don't quote this post you bastards.
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Is Michael Owen, who's barely played for two years, gonna come and solve our goal scoring problems?
Any suggestions are welcome." I'm bummed that he thinks I'm trying to wind him up though. He's one of my favourite posters.
Except when he gets emotionally charged, takes everything personally, and starts thinking everyone is against him.
This being ignored thing is pretty cool. I can be honest about Macca now without him getting defensive and leaving the site.
Don't quote this post you bastards.
What?
"Spending is not merely about buying talent. Our ambitions do not lie in cementing a mid-table place with expensive, short-term quick fixes that will only contribute for a couple of years. Our emphasis will be on developing our own players using the skills of an increasingly impressive coaching team. Much thought and investment already have gone into developing a self-sustaining pool of youngsters imbued in the club's traditions"
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This maybe
Not likely ever getting paid then.
We've only decreased the wage bill by £23m if you ignore the pay rises handed out and the new players wages.
Not sure if true but one of the Times journos said we've reduced the wage bill with 450k pr week.
Regarding Owen, he hasnt played since November, is injured for 9 months of the year, is a judas cunt but obvs know where the goal is.
He'll sign for Stoke and thats for the best. But we really need a striker signed, and I'm inclined to sign just about anyone that can improve our options.
Pongolle or Lazovic sounds like the best options on a short term deal.
Regarding Owen, he hasnt played since November, is injured for 9 months of the year, is a judas cunt but obvs know where the goal is.
He'll sign for Stoke and thats for the best. But we really need a striker signed, and I'm inclined to sign just about anyone that can improve our options.
Pongolle or Lazovic sounds like the best options on a short term deal.
Not what I was led to believe. Of course I'm not an accountant.
Don't worry people believe stupider things than that. And you and plenty of others only ever look at one side of the equation.
Last year some people repeatedly quoted that we'd reduced the wage bill by 17m, a simple match box calculation would have shown it was nonsense. It was. And exactly the same is true this time around.
Our outgoings probably do take 23m off the wage bill, but that's only one side of the equation.
We now pay an extra 2m a year to Cole, an extra 3.5m to Suarez after his extension. Skrtel got a pay rise. Gerrard got a new contract, I think Kelly did too. Probably some others too.
Then add the players we signed to the bill. We're not saving anything like 23m.
Much like you don't need to be a carpenter to know a piece of wood is broken, you don't need to be an accountant to do simple maths.
We pay an extra £2M to cole?
Is that cos he came back off loan?
Is that cos he came back off loan?
I heard Gerrard didn't get a rise either, just an extension?
You know Ross you can get your points across without implying other people who don't look at figures to the degree you do lack some form of basic intelligence. It's not necessary and just makes you out to be a bit of a dickhead. People have strengths and skills in different areas. That doesn't make them any more or less intelligent.
Ross is different though. He knows more than everyone else, about everything.
He's a bit like Dantes.
I could, it wouldn't be much fun though.
It doesn't take any skill to work out what's coming and going and see that 23m figure makes no sense, but plenty of people will quote it as gospel - like Hansen for instance above - without thinking twice about it. Then they go off on rants about the owners and get all worked up about something that could easily be avoided if they took the time to look at the full picture.
Eh, how is saying dont know if its true quoting something like gospel? I think you're giving yourself way to much credit.
I never said I agreed to the statement either.
When everythings added up I think you'll find that we've reduced it, but the most important thing is that we've sold or moved on some of the older higher earning players. And replaced them with younger players with a future at the club. A rebuilding process like this will in the end mean a much healthier squad in terms of who is on high wages, the average age and the quality of the players.
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