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The only kit I have ever bought, and it wasn't to go a game it was to go clubbing, was the New York Cosmos top from the late 70s. It's a fuckin work of art.
Forum isn’t big enough to have a seperate football forum for non LFC discussion.
Some people are interested in discussing the one of the greatest players of all time trying to impact a nations view on football that has been impossible to crack up to this point.
Disgust is a strong term.
The Miami pink kit isn’t bad at all. I can see a large global demand for it now.
It hasn't been "impossible to crack" the nations view on football. Football has never been more popular and it has had steady, sustained growth for pretty much the entirety of the last three decades. Demographics in the USA mean there's a huge Spanish speaking immigrant population that love the game. Then you have a bunch of kids who take interest in the premier league, mostly, or la Liga.
Football has always been popular as an amateur sport for kids and that remains the case.
I'd rather the USA found football deeply, deeply unpopular by the way.
If the metric is it'll replace one of the USAs big three sports, that's just a process that were it to occur, would be multigenerational.
The sport in my lifetime in the USA has gone from my dad making a corporation that presented as an English pub, so we could get setanta sports in our house, to the sport being on a major network over the air, and me having to listen to random arrivist cunts tell me how klopp is the problem.
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The metric is their national team being a force in world football like the US is in most sports they take seriously.
That's silly. They were the only ones that took seriously the big three team sports in the USA for a long time.
It's still far more lucrative for a top tier freak athlete to play one of those sports, and again, that is a generational process to change.
We’ve got far bigger problems in our player development. Soccer in this country is a rich kid sport. Pay to play. As long as that’s the case, it will never overtake the other leagues, nor will it produce the kind of players that we need to be a bigger force on the world stage.
Football baseball basketball all have much better development infrastructure’s. The college set up does all of the development at no cost to the pro leagues. Sweet gig.
Football baseball basketball all have much better development infrastructure’s. The college set up does all of the development at no cost to the pro leagues. Sweet gig.
Why is that the case, out of interest?
Football (proper football) is surely the cheapest of all of them to actually organise/participate in.
Could the simple explanation be capitalism?
In Sweden and maybe other European countries, football pitches are often owned by the government, also sports are to some extent subsidised. So smaller clubs get financial aid from the government.
Parents basically only need to buy a football kit for their kids in order for them to play.
But most importantly there's a culture of football in Europe. Growing up, we play football in school during breaks, on the weekend with friends etc. I think that's the main reason the rest of the world are ahead.
In Sweden and maybe other European countries, football pitches are often owned by the government, also sports are to some extent subsidised. So smaller clubs get financial aid from the government.
Parents basically only need to buy a football kit for their kids in order for them to play.
But most importantly there's a culture of football in Europe. Growing up, we play football in school during breaks, on the weekend with friends etc. I think that's the main reason the rest of the world are ahead.
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The heirarchy of soccer clubs in the US is fractured and underfunded. It's admittedly a downside of capitalistic approach to youth sports. In England you have 7 levels of pro/semi-pro clubs, with fields and training and local support and funding from the top leagues. In the US we have a parallel system of private clubs and school soccer, from high school to college. It's a true two tier system where poorer players are stuck playing school route, and richer kids play private club. College coaches don't pay attention to school soccer anymore. And all the supposed "grassroots" work by US Soccer is politicized and dominated by the private club interests.
We have something called ODP (Olympic Development Program) that is supposed to identify the best players in each age group by state, region, and nationally. All supposed to flow up to the national team. Guess who coaches those teams? All the rich private club coaches. Guess who they pick for the program? their own players. MLS do have academies now and those are helpful but too small.
The US is so large and relatively young that we don't have the local clubs that the town supports as part of the culture, and that identifies and trains upcoming talent. It's all a mess.
Yay. Capitalism.
$2500 a season at least to play in a decent youth club - youth soccer clubs take in millions a year. And there’s no pyramid.
Same issue in Australia. Getting best of the rich kids who can pack it in any stage for something easier is so much worse than getting the best from all kids.
In Australia the FFA charges an arm and leg for everything to fund the A- League. It’s fundamentally broken. ‘Poor’ kids can’t get access to have decent coaches. Even then you can get your UEFA badges in Oz and the Australia ones are fucking garbage. 4-3-3 is all you are allowed teach until you get your diploma after your C, B and A license which cost a fortune.
Fucking hell. Subs for my lads are £20 a month during the season. £160 a year each
$2500 is just registration fees. Add 2x that for travel and tournaments. And all the required gear - $250-400.
It's not sports, it's everything. If you feel guilty that you aren't willing to spend on your kid, then that's a wonderful thing for a marketer to work on.
Fairytale stuff if they win the cup.
Extremely entertaining.
I'm a critic, and I can definitely see greater technical quality. But Miami are not a great side. That's going to change of course!
And add in Camps ($400 a week) and tournaments....
And if they played in the street, they'd be better players.
Hello @Silver Sean
I'm so happy and excited that the gracious Lord Saviour has decided to selflessly bring football and show the way to one of the world's most underprivileged nations. Fairytale stuff indeed
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