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If we are serious about any talent from Holland, we should move for them immediately, if De Boer goes to Everton it'll make things harder.
 
I just heard a Dutch journalist asked about what Everton fans can expect if de Boer takes over: 'Even if the team loses 5-0, he won't mind, he'll persist with his principles'.

Sounds like more of the same.
 
Controversial opinion maybe, but does anyone think Tony Pulis could do a decent job with Everton?

Football style aside, he's generally got his teams punching above their weight.

And then we can have an Everton manager we can dislike again. Martinez was a decent sort.
 
Controversial opinion maybe, but does anyone think Tony Pulis could do a decent job with Everton?

Football style aside, he's generally got his teams punching above their weight.

And then we can have an Everton manager we can dislike again. Martinez was a decent sort.

Nah, he started a bit of snide shit when he knew what way his bread was bittered. Obviously Pulis would be more hateable though.
 
Seems an odd choice for me if they have gone for him.

From what I've read about him he's just like a classier Martinez. They don't need a manager who wants to pass the ball into the net, they need a cynical manager who is prepared to win at any cost & can get the best out of lesser players, putting defence & aggression before everything else.

TBH, they need the David Moyes they had before he went to Utd & fell apart.
 
Controversial opinion maybe, but does anyone think Tony Pulis could do a decent job with Everton?

Football style aside, he's generally got his teams punching above their weight.

And then we can have an Everton manager we can dislike again. Martinez was a decent sort.

He'd be perfect for them.

Their fans wont have it though. Even when Moyes was doing well they would moan & bitch about his playing style.

I dont get it, you've gotta know your limits. Like us under Houllier & Rafa in Europe, we'd often try to destroy the match & play 'anti football', & whilst some moaned, I never did, cos we werent as good as them at simply playing the beautiful game, we needed to drag them down to our level & stop them playing (incidentally I've read similar comments from Klopp a few times).
 
Martinez has already flown off to New York, where he's filming a re-make of Annie Hall:

martinez-henry_2229850b.jpg


“You know, I was having lunch with some guys from NBC, so I said, ‘Did you eat yet or what?’ And Tom Christie said, ‘No, JEW?’ Not ‘Did you?’…JEW eat? JEW? You get it? JEW eat? Not ‘did you eat…’”

'Roberto, you're not even Jewish...'
 
I am okay with this (as with Chelski and Utd) on the basis that, as we know, there are very few top quality managers out there, and the change that goes with new managers is tumultuous and traumatic for our precious little angels on 80k plus a week... so theyre just as likely to be fucking it up spectacularly badly next year, as they are to complete some wonder recovery. Hope abounds
 
Controversial opinion maybe, but does anyone think Tony Pulis could do a decent job with Everton?

Football style aside, he's generally got his teams punching above their weight.

And then we can have an Everton manager we can dislike again. Martinez was a decent sort.

Depends what you mean by "decent job". He'd make sure they stay up, and that's about it. They'd become dogs of war again, but without the reasonable football they also played occasionally under Moyes. I'd quite like them to appoint him actually, because it would show they've realised they'll never be more than wannabes.

It looks like it's going to be de Boer though, and as others have indicated there's no guarantee he'll do a better job than Martinez. Shame innit.
 
@BabettevHaaren: Frank de Boer on Everton: "At this moment, nothing is going on so I don't want to talk about that."
 
You've got to love The Bitters. There was one on the radio earlier saying he didn't want Mourinho (haha as if you'd have a chance of getting him anyway) because he's only successful for three years then gets off. What they need, he said, was De Boer because he could build a dynasty like Moyes did. A dynasty? I nearly crashed the car pissing myself.
 
Roberto Martinez on…broken promises
* “I’ll get you into the Champions League” – The first words Martinez spoke to Bill Kenwright, according to the Everton chairman himself.
Roberto Martinez on…Gareth Barry
* “I have never seen a player with such an incredible professionalism and standards as Gareth Barry. For me he is one of the best English players ever.”
Roberto Martinez on…Tom Cleverley
* “I think you do not have a better English player. Technically, he is as good as you get. The way he executes, how he reads the game, for me he is one of the most sensational you are going to see in Premier League history. I wouldn’t sell him for any money in the current market.”
Roberto Martinez on…John Stones
* “John Stones is in the right environment to fulfil his potential as one of the greatest players England has ever seen.”
* “He’s an out and out defender and then, for me, he’s the best footballing centre half in Europe, so he’s allowed to make his own decisions.”
Roberto Martinez on…Leighton Baines
* “He is talking about lack of confidence and lack of chemistry on the pitch once you have had a couple of defeats. Those words have been given the opportunity to maybe attract a meaning that is not right and is not correct. For that he apologised and has taken responsibility for that, of leaving those words open. This team has loads of chemistry.”
Roberto Martinez on…injuries
* “I don’t believe in soft tissue injuries. If you get a soft tissue injury in football, a mistake has been made.”
Roberto Martinez on…accidental transfer requests

“With John, it’s very easy because he’s a pristine professional. Obviously he’s been put under massive, massive pressure. The transfer request was something he didn’t mean to do.”
Roberto Martinez on…the decision to replace Aaron Lennon with Oumar Niasse after 76 minutes against West Ham
* “I thought tactically we were outstanding. If you look at the way we got set up in the second half, we were the better side and I think we showed an incredible tactical understanding and character.”
(Everton were winning 2-0 at the time of the substitution, but had been reduced to ten men. The Toffees subsequently lost the match 3-2. Gareth Barry was brought on for Romelu Lukaku after West Ham scored the winner.)
Roberto Martinez on…the decision to award Stoke a last-minute penalty in their 4-3 win over Everton in December 2015
* “Looking at the replay it shows John Stones touches the ball. That decision is hard to take. To get a decision wrong like that so late in the game makes you feel furious and is unacceptable.”
Roberto Martinez on…the decision not to award Manchester City a last-minute penalty in a 0-0 draw against Everton two weeks later
“What you want as a manager is a referee who is 100 per cent when he gives that decision. It is impossible from that point to say if it is intent or if it is a penalty or not. As a referee you get emotional at times, you go with the crowd. I don’t think the referee could have done it any better. If you are not certain, you don’t want to gamble in a decision that could have been so damaging from our point of view. I felt Roger [East, referee] made the right call there.”
Roberto Martinez on…the decision to allow John Terry’s controversial last-minute equaliser for Chelsea in a 3-3 draw three days later
“The level of refereeing was diabolical. We lost because it was a horrific decision right at the end. All you want is the referee to do his job. The linesman is in a good position, it’s a touch from Oscar and Terry is clearly, clearly offside. It’s a clear-cut offside that should have been spotted. To make it worse, it’s 50 seconds over time. It’s something that’s not good enough. There is no explanation. It’s a big, big error.”
Roberto Martinez on…everything
* “Phenomenal.”
Don’t believe us? Well…
He called Ross Barkley a “phenomenal person” after the midfielder scored twice in a victory over Newcastle earlier this season.
He described Pep Guardiola’s announcement as the next Manchester City manager as a “phenomenal sign” in January.
He described Arouna Kone’s return from injury as “phenomenal” in November 2015.
He described Wayne Rooney as “phenomenal” after the Manchester United scored twice in a victory over Everton in October 2015.
He described Mason Holgate as a “phenomenal young prospect” in August 2015.
He described James McCarthy as a “phenomenal asset” in July 2015.
He described Sylvain Distin as a “phenomenal professional” in May 2015.
He said Brendan Galloway has a “phenomenal future” in May 2015.
He described Kevin Mirallas as “phenomenal in transition” in November 2014.
He praised the “phenomenal defending” of Tyias Browning in September 2014.
He called Aiden McGeady a “phenomenal player” in February 2014.
He described Everton as a “phenomenal and passionate football club” at his unveiling as manager.
He described Everton’s academy as “phenomenal” in July 2013.
He described his first season at the club as a “phenomenal campaign”.

http://www.football365.com/news/phenomenal-roberto-martinezs-greatest-hits
 
Roberto Martinez on…broken promises
* “I’ll get you into the Champions League” – The first words Martinez spoke to Bill Kenwright, according to the Everton chairman himself.
Roberto Martinez on…Gareth Barry
* “I have never seen a player with such an incredible professionalism and standards as Gareth Barry. For me he is one of the best English players ever.”
Roberto Martinez on…Tom Cleverley
* “I think you do not have a better English player. Technically, he is as good as you get. The way he executes, how he reads the game, for me he is one of the most sensational you are going to see in Premier League history. I wouldn’t sell him for any money in the current market.”
Roberto Martinez on…John Stones
* “John Stones is in the right environment to fulfil his potential as one of the greatest players England has ever seen.”
* “He’s an out and out defender and then, for me, he’s the best footballing centre half in Europe, so he’s allowed to make his own decisions.”
Roberto Martinez on…Leighton Baines
* “He is talking about lack of confidence and lack of chemistry on the pitch once you have had a couple of defeats. Those words have been given the opportunity to maybe attract a meaning that is not right and is not correct. For that he apologised and has taken responsibility for that, of leaving those words open. This team has loads of chemistry.”
Roberto Martinez on…injuries
* “I don’t believe in soft tissue injuries. If you get a soft tissue injury in football, a mistake has been made.”
Roberto Martinez on…accidental transfer requests
“With John, it’s very easy because he’s a pristine professional. Obviously he’s been put under massive, massive pressure. The transfer request was something he didn’t mean to do.”
Roberto Martinez on…the decision to replace Aaron Lennon with Oumar Niasse after 76 minutes against West Ham
* “I thought tactically we were outstanding. If you look at the way we got set up in the second half, we were the better side and I think we showed an incredible tactical understanding and character.”
(Everton were winning 2-0 at the time of the substitution, but had been reduced to ten men. The Toffees subsequently lost the match 3-2. Gareth Barry was brought on for Romelu Lukaku after West Ham scored the winner.)
Roberto Martinez on…the decision to award Stoke a last-minute penalty in their 4-3 win over Everton in December 2015
* “Looking at the replay it shows John Stones touches the ball. That decision is hard to take. To get a decision wrong like that so late in the game makes you feel furious and is unacceptable.”
Roberto Martinez on…the decision not to award Manchester City a last-minute penalty in a 0-0 draw against Everton two weeks later
“What you want as a manager is a referee who is 100 per cent when he gives that decision. It is impossible from that point to say if it is intent or if it is a penalty or not. As a referee you get emotional at times, you go with the crowd. I don’t think the referee could have done it any better. If you are not certain, you don’t want to gamble in a decision that could have been so damaging from our point of view. I felt Roger [East, referee] made the right call there.”
Roberto Martinez on…the decision to allow John Terry’s controversial last-minute equaliser for Chelsea in a 3-3 draw three days later
“The level of refereeing was diabolical. We lost because it was a horrific decision right at the end. All you want is the referee to do his job. The linesman is in a good position, it’s a touch from Oscar and Terry is clearly, clearly offside. It’s a clear-cut offside that should have been spotted. To make it worse, it’s 50 seconds over time. It’s something that’s not good enough. There is no explanation. It’s a big, big error.”
Roberto Martinez on…everything
* “Phenomenal.”
Don’t believe us? Well…
He called Ross Barkley a “phenomenal person” after the midfielder scored twice in a victory over Newcastle earlier this season.
He described Pep Guardiola’s announcement as the next Manchester City manager as a “phenomenal sign” in January.
He described Arouna Kone’s return from injury as “phenomenal” in November 2015.
He described Wayne Rooney as “phenomenal” after the Manchester United scored twice in a victory over Everton in October 2015.
He described Mason Holgate as a “phenomenal young prospect” in August 2015.
He described James McCarthy as a “phenomenal asset” in July 2015.
He described Sylvain Distin as a “phenomenal professional” in May 2015.
He said Brendan Galloway has a “phenomenal future” in May 2015.
He described Kevin Mirallas as “phenomenal in transition” in November 2014.
He praised the “phenomenal defending” of Tyias Browning in September 2014.
He called Aiden McGeady a “phenomenal player” in February 2014.
He described Everton as a “phenomenal and passionate football club” at his unveiling as manager.
He described Everton’s academy as “phenomenal” in July 2013.
He described his first season at the club as a “phenomenal campaign”.

http://www.football365.com/news/phenomenal-roberto-martinezs-greatest-hits
even Brendao Rodgers would be blushing at some of those over the top appraisels
 
Martinez has already flown off to New York, where he's filming a re-make of Annie Hall:

martinez-henry_2229850b.jpg


“You know, I was having lunch with some guys from NBC, so I said, ‘Did you eat yet or what?’ And Tom Christie said, ‘No, JEW?’ Not ‘Did you?’…JEW eat? JEW? You get it? JEW eat? Not ‘did you eat…’”

'Roberto, you're not even Jewish...'

Why's he chatting with John Henry?
 
Seems an odd choice for me if they have gone for him.

From what I've read about him he's just like a classier Martinez. They don't need a manager who wants to pass the ball into the net, they need a cynical manager who is prepared to win at any cost & can get the best out of lesser players, putting defence & aggression before everything else.

TBH, they need the David Moyes they had before he went to Utd & fell apart.

They need to get the best out of their better players, first and foremost. They've got some quality players there who have looked like absolute shit for most of the season. Martinez' problem hasn't been getting the fringe players to do a job, it's been getting the big players to be consistent and to work as a team. I know Lukaku's record speaks for itself, but players like Stones, Barkley, Coleman etc are all punching well below their weight. It's a fairly good squad for any manager to be walking into.
 
Why's he chatting with John Henry?
That's from when we spoke to him before giving Brendan the job. Apparently he turned us down. Which was probably enough for Everton to give him the job.

Strangely, Frank de Boer also turned us down.
 
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