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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48641.msg1481111#msg1481111 date=1328973396]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48641.msg1481108#msg1481108 date=1328973304]
No, they said it in the studio afterwards
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Well if Sky said it, it must be true
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Hardly what I said, just relaying what I've heard
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48641.msg1481108#msg1481108 date=1328973304]
No, they said it in the studio afterwards
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Well if Sky said it, it must be true
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Hardly what I said, just relaying what I've heard
Agreed Anita. I just wish it could have been put to bed today.
Suarez did the right thing not to shake hands with Evra. He took the difficult, hard descision.
Evras celebration made him look like a twat- good.
United singing rascist songs makes me hate them to a level I couldn't even imagine was possible.
I hope this mess just blew away, which it won't of course.
Evras celebration made him look like a twat- good.
United singing rascist songs makes me hate them to a level I couldn't even imagine was possible.
I hope this mess just blew away, which it won't of course.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48641.msg1481123#msg1481123 date=1328973620]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48641.msg1481111#msg1481111 date=1328973396]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48641.msg1481108#msg1481108 date=1328973304]
No, they said it in the studio afterwards
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Well if Sky said it, it must be true
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Hardly what I said, just relaying what I've heard
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I wasn't having a go at you Anita so don't start thanks.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48641.msg1481111#msg1481111 date=1328973396]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48641.msg1481108#msg1481108 date=1328973304]
No, they said it in the studio afterwards
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Well if Sky said it, it must be true
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Hardly what I said, just relaying what I've heard
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I wasn't having a go at you Anita so don't start thanks.
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=48641.msg1481048#msg1481048 date=1328971793]
Is that the Man Utd players singing racist bastard in the tunnel?
Gary Neville talked a lot of sense at half time by the way, let's see if he does it again at full time.
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It's really really upsetting isn't it? I wanted to hate Gary Neville doing Sky, but in all honestly he is the best one they have had, and he tries very hard to be impartial
He also said tat he start after the handshake thing, why should you shake hands with someone you don't like.
regards
Is that the Man Utd players singing racist bastard in the tunnel?
Gary Neville talked a lot of sense at half time by the way, let's see if he does it again at full time.
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It's really really upsetting isn't it? I wanted to hate Gary Neville doing Sky, but in all honestly he is the best one they have had, and he tries very hard to be impartial
He also said tat he start after the handshake thing, why should you shake hands with someone you don't like.
regards
Ferguson in fairness said that Evra's celebrations should not have happened. He's still a cunt though.
Re Fergie's comments on Suarez not shaking hands :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFkYRXlwQxA#t=1m6s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFkYRXlwQxA#t=1m6s
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48641.msg1481129#msg1481129 date=1328973761]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=48641.msg1481048#msg1481048 date=1328971793]
Is that the Man Utd players singing racist bastard in the tunnel?
Gary Neville talked a lot of sense at half time by the way, let's see if he does it again at full time.
[/quote]
It's really really upsetting isn't it? I wanted to hate Gary Neville doing Sky, but in all honestly he is the best one they have had, and he tries very hard to be impartial
He also said tat he start after the handshake thing, why should you shake hands with someone you don't like.
regards
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Yeah I posted again saying the same. He is a really good pundit, so credit where it's due.
Manc bastard
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=48641.msg1481048#msg1481048 date=1328971793]
Is that the Man Utd players singing racist bastard in the tunnel?
Gary Neville talked a lot of sense at half time by the way, let's see if he does it again at full time.
[/quote]
It's really really upsetting isn't it? I wanted to hate Gary Neville doing Sky, but in all honestly he is the best one they have had, and he tries very hard to be impartial
He also said tat he start after the handshake thing, why should you shake hands with someone you don't like.
regards
[/quote]
Yeah I posted again saying the same. He is a really good pundit, so credit where it's due.
Manc bastard
Yes bad mistake leaving Charlie on the bench today.
He should also start with Bellers and if he gets fucked bring him off.
In fact the team that finished is the one that should have started
regards
He should also start with Bellers and if he gets fucked bring him off.
In fact the team that finished is the one that should have started
regards
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48641.msg1481119#msg1481119 date=1328973562]
I hate that there's a 'race row' in football, furthermore I hate the fact that we're at the centre of it. People can claim that they've studied Spanish linguistics and read the 150 page report etc and can therefore make an informed decision that Suarez did nothing wrong. But most people, ie the rest of the world, haven't scrutinised every detail and instead will accept it for how it appears at face value. Repeatedly, we don't seem to be doing ourselves any favours with how we're being perceived on this situation, it's one misjudged action after the other.
Suarez didn't do himself or the club any favours by not shaking his hand, and Kenny's outburst wasn't much better.
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Not that I give a flying one about "how we're being perceived", but this stuff about "the rest of the world" is utter moonshine, a media invention pure and simple. Posters on here from Asia have already said it's a non-issue over there, while the FA's kangaroo court proceedings and the arrogance of the English media in trumpeting English football's supposedly superior attitude to race relations are making English football as a whole a laughing-stock. I have that from friends, relatives and contacts in Europe and in S.America.
I hate that there's a 'race row' in football, furthermore I hate the fact that we're at the centre of it. People can claim that they've studied Spanish linguistics and read the 150 page report etc and can therefore make an informed decision that Suarez did nothing wrong. But most people, ie the rest of the world, haven't scrutinised every detail and instead will accept it for how it appears at face value. Repeatedly, we don't seem to be doing ourselves any favours with how we're being perceived on this situation, it's one misjudged action after the other.
Suarez didn't do himself or the club any favours by not shaking his hand, and Kenny's outburst wasn't much better.
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Not that I give a flying one about "how we're being perceived", but this stuff about "the rest of the world" is utter moonshine, a media invention pure and simple. Posters on here from Asia have already said it's a non-issue over there, while the FA's kangaroo court proceedings and the arrogance of the English media in trumpeting English football's supposedly superior attitude to race relations are making English football as a whole a laughing-stock. I have that from friends, relatives and contacts in Europe and in S.America.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48641.msg1481112#msg1481112 date=1328973420]
[quote author=rubans link=topic=48641.msg1481088#msg1481088 date=1328972802]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48641.msg1481077#msg1481077 date=1328972515]
[quote author=rubans link=topic=48641.msg1481067#msg1481067 date=1328972245]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48641.msg1481061#msg1481061 date=1328972019]
[quote author=rubans link=topic=48641.msg1481050#msg1481050 date=1328971818]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48641.msg1481042#msg1481042 date=1328971651]
[quote author=rubans link=topic=48641.msg1481020#msg1481020 date=1328971373]
Downing and Henderson pound for pound look like the worse signings we have ever signed.
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Ridiculous. Henderson's got decent potential and didn't do too badly today.
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He has got potential but it's never going to be enough, we spent over 16million or whatever on him and should have been spent elsewhere or not spent at all and put in the bank.
It's ridiculous the amount of defending both get on here and i was one at the start of the season, show how our standing and expectations have gone down in the last 18 months.
We spend more time chatting about twat Evra then our serious inablity to peform to a level above 7th, we need to move and address this. We are not going anywhere this season and start looking at next season.
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How on earth do you know his potential is never going to be enough?
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Based on watching years of football based on players with potential
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Arrogant shite.
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Classy guy, calling me names now? Learn the art of debate, it's fine if you don't agree, not going to start resorting to swearing, grow up.
Not arrogant, you asked me to qualify my statement I did, what's your problem now?
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Dear oh dear. I wasn't calling you names, although it's interesting that you thought so. I was referring to your comments. Dismissing a young player on the grounds that you've seen a lot of football is NOT a demonstration of the art of debate, it's an arrogant assertion.
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Fair enough, but im basing my views on judging players, pretty much like what a lot of players do with younger players. You may see something in him that suggests he will make it, but I really don't see what he has. A decent cross and a good engine but to make it in that position he needs more. It's NOT arrogant to suggest that. If he's still playing for lfc as a starter in 18 months in a 4th place side, then he can be considered a success in my opionion.
[quote author=rubans link=topic=48641.msg1481088#msg1481088 date=1328972802]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48641.msg1481077#msg1481077 date=1328972515]
[quote author=rubans link=topic=48641.msg1481067#msg1481067 date=1328972245]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48641.msg1481061#msg1481061 date=1328972019]
[quote author=rubans link=topic=48641.msg1481050#msg1481050 date=1328971818]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48641.msg1481042#msg1481042 date=1328971651]
[quote author=rubans link=topic=48641.msg1481020#msg1481020 date=1328971373]
Downing and Henderson pound for pound look like the worse signings we have ever signed.
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Ridiculous. Henderson's got decent potential and didn't do too badly today.
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He has got potential but it's never going to be enough, we spent over 16million or whatever on him and should have been spent elsewhere or not spent at all and put in the bank.
It's ridiculous the amount of defending both get on here and i was one at the start of the season, show how our standing and expectations have gone down in the last 18 months.
We spend more time chatting about twat Evra then our serious inablity to peform to a level above 7th, we need to move and address this. We are not going anywhere this season and start looking at next season.
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How on earth do you know his potential is never going to be enough?
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Based on watching years of football based on players with potential
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Arrogant shite.
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Classy guy, calling me names now? Learn the art of debate, it's fine if you don't agree, not going to start resorting to swearing, grow up.
Not arrogant, you asked me to qualify my statement I did, what's your problem now?
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Dear oh dear. I wasn't calling you names, although it's interesting that you thought so. I was referring to your comments. Dismissing a young player on the grounds that you've seen a lot of football is NOT a demonstration of the art of debate, it's an arrogant assertion.
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Fair enough, but im basing my views on judging players, pretty much like what a lot of players do with younger players. You may see something in him that suggests he will make it, but I really don't see what he has. A decent cross and a good engine but to make it in that position he needs more. It's NOT arrogant to suggest that. If he's still playing for lfc as a starter in 18 months in a 4th place side, then he can be considered a success in my opionion.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48641.msg1481138#msg1481138 date=1328974102]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48641.msg1481119#msg1481119 date=1328973562]
I hate that there's a 'race row' in football, furthermore I hate the fact that we're at the centre of it. People can claim that they've studied Spanish linguistics and read the 150 page report etc and can therefore make an informed decision that Suarez did nothing wrong. But most people, ie the rest of the world, haven't scrutinised every detail and instead will accept it for how it appears at face value. Repeatedly, we don't seem to be doing ourselves any favours with how we're being perceived on this situation, it's one misjudged action after the other.
Suarez didn't do himself or the club any favours by not shaking his hand, and Kenny's outburst wasn't much better.
[/quote]
Not that I give a flying one about "how we're being perceived", but this stuff about "the rest of the world" is utter moonshine, a media invention pure and simple. Posters on here from Asia have already said it's a non-issue over there, while the FA's kangaroo court proceedings and the arrogance of the English media in trumpeting English football's supposedly superior attitude to race relations are making English football as a whole a laughing-stock. I have that from friends, relatives and contacts in Europe and in S.America.
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Yup I have both Man U fans and LFC fans as friends here in Asia and no one is bothered with the race issue. In fact most suggest it is part of the game to wind your opponent up and Evra milked the incident big time.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48641.msg1481119#msg1481119 date=1328973562]
I hate that there's a 'race row' in football, furthermore I hate the fact that we're at the centre of it. People can claim that they've studied Spanish linguistics and read the 150 page report etc and can therefore make an informed decision that Suarez did nothing wrong. But most people, ie the rest of the world, haven't scrutinised every detail and instead will accept it for how it appears at face value. Repeatedly, we don't seem to be doing ourselves any favours with how we're being perceived on this situation, it's one misjudged action after the other.
Suarez didn't do himself or the club any favours by not shaking his hand, and Kenny's outburst wasn't much better.
[/quote]
Not that I give a flying one about "how we're being perceived", but this stuff about "the rest of the world" is utter moonshine, a media invention pure and simple. Posters on here from Asia have already said it's a non-issue over there, while the FA's kangaroo court proceedings and the arrogance of the English media in trumpeting English football's supposedly superior attitude to race relations are making English football as a whole a laughing-stock. I have that from friends, relatives and contacts in Europe and in S.America.
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Yup I have both Man U fans and LFC fans as friends here in Asia and no one is bothered with the race issue. In fact most suggest it is part of the game to wind your opponent up and Evra milked the incident big time.
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=48641.msg1481117#msg1481117 date=1328973525]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48641.msg1481099#msg1481099 date=1328973125]
I agree. If it hadn't been for sky sports and that bastard Geoff Shreeves we'd have won easily today.
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You always seem to post more often after a defeat Ryan. Anyone would think you actually want us to lose.
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Krump already served it up to Ryan.
He's sooooooooooooooooo cool on the internet!
Fair play to the sad cretin
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48641.msg1481099#msg1481099 date=1328973125]
I agree. If it hadn't been for sky sports and that bastard Geoff Shreeves we'd have won easily today.
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You always seem to post more often after a defeat Ryan. Anyone would think you actually want us to lose.
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Krump already served it up to Ryan.
He's sooooooooooooooooo cool on the internet!
Fair play to the sad cretin
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=48641.msg1481134#msg1481134 date=1328973876]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48641.msg1481129#msg1481129 date=1328973761]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=48641.msg1481048#msg1481048 date=1328971793]
Is that the Man Utd players singing racist bastard in the tunnel?
Gary Neville talked a lot of sense at half time by the way, let's see if he does it again at full time.
[/quote]
It's really really upsetting isn't it? I wanted to hate Gary Neville doing Sky, but in all honestly he is the best one they have had, and he tries very hard to be impartial
He also said tat he start after the handshake thing, why should you shake hands with someone you don't like.
regards
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Yeah I posted again saying the same. He is a really good pundit, so credit where it's due.
Manc bastard
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I was thinking the same.
Going for a shower
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48641.msg1481129#msg1481129 date=1328973761]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=48641.msg1481048#msg1481048 date=1328971793]
Is that the Man Utd players singing racist bastard in the tunnel?
Gary Neville talked a lot of sense at half time by the way, let's see if he does it again at full time.
[/quote]
It's really really upsetting isn't it? I wanted to hate Gary Neville doing Sky, but in all honestly he is the best one they have had, and he tries very hard to be impartial
He also said tat he start after the handshake thing, why should you shake hands with someone you don't like.
regards
[/quote]
Yeah I posted again saying the same. He is a really good pundit, so credit where it's due.
Manc bastard
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I was thinking the same.
Going for a shower
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48641.msg1481145#msg1481145 date=1328974854]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=48641.msg1481134#msg1481134 date=1328973876]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48641.msg1481129#msg1481129 date=1328973761]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=48641.msg1481048#msg1481048 date=1328971793]
Is that the Man Utd players singing racist bastard in the tunnel?
Gary Neville talked a lot of sense at half time by the way, let's see if he does it again at full time.
[/quote]
It's really really upsetting isn't it? I wanted to hate Gary Neville doing Sky, but in all honestly he is the best one they have had, and he tries very hard to be impartial
He also said tat he start after the handshake thing, why should you shake hands with someone you don't like.
regards
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Yeah I posted again saying the same. He is a really good pundit, so credit where it's due.
Manc bastard
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I was thinking the same.
Going for a shower
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Shower all you want but they just don't make water hot enough! *goes to the cupboard looking for the brillo pads and swarfega*
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=48641.msg1481134#msg1481134 date=1328973876]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48641.msg1481129#msg1481129 date=1328973761]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=48641.msg1481048#msg1481048 date=1328971793]
Is that the Man Utd players singing racist bastard in the tunnel?
Gary Neville talked a lot of sense at half time by the way, let's see if he does it again at full time.
[/quote]
It's really really upsetting isn't it? I wanted to hate Gary Neville doing Sky, but in all honestly he is the best one they have had, and he tries very hard to be impartial
He also said tat he start after the handshake thing, why should you shake hands with someone you don't like.
regards
[/quote]
Yeah I posted again saying the same. He is a really good pundit, so credit where it's due.
Manc bastard
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I was thinking the same.
Going for a shower
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Shower all you want but they just don't make water hot enough! *goes to the cupboard looking for the brillo pads and swarfega*
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=48641.msg1481137#msg1481137 date=1328974080]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48641.msg1481079#msg1481079 date=1328972574]
All drama aside, we didn't play well enough and probably didn't deserve anything out of the game.
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Defo. Relieved that we didn't get beat by 3 or 4.
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Yup the feeling is of relief that we did not lose by 3 or more.
And our midfield was ineffective against a couple of geriatrics who played the full 90 minutes!
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48641.msg1481079#msg1481079 date=1328972574]
All drama aside, we didn't play well enough and probably didn't deserve anything out of the game.
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Defo. Relieved that we didn't get beat by 3 or 4.
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Yup the feeling is of relief that we did not lose by 3 or more.
And our midfield was ineffective against a couple of geriatrics who played the full 90 minutes!
Evras celebration bit just shows how big a cunt he is. For the record I wouldnt want to shake the cunts hand after all this either, so far play to Suarez. I can understand him.
Shit game, shit team selection, no heart, no desire and schoolboy errors all over the pitch. Kenny needs to stick to what have been working these last few games. Bellamy and Carroll.
Shit game, shit team selection, no heart, no desire and schoolboy errors all over the pitch. Kenny needs to stick to what have been working these last few games. Bellamy and Carroll.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48641.msg1481133#msg1481133 date=1328973838]
Re Fergie's comments on Suarez not shaking hands :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFkYRXlwQxA#t=1m6s
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Hahaha. Gary Neville trying to look hard.
Re Fergie's comments on Suarez not shaking hands :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFkYRXlwQxA#t=1m6s
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Hahaha. Gary Neville trying to look hard.
Re: Second Half Performance...
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48641.msg1481087#msg1481087 date=1328972790]
I'd like to point out that several people on this site - Pesam, Robinhood and others - insisted that Jay Spearing is better than Lucas.
Amazing.
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Oh Jesus.
Lucas was actually good for about one game before he got crocked, and Spearing had showed some potential at the time I said I wanted to see him used more.
Ryan, I'm not sure I've ever come across anybody more bothered about what people think of him than you. I pity your hangups. But have a pat on the back for the Lucas thing, your irrational support of him may have run contrary to the evidence for two years, but eventually you were miraculously vindicated for about 30 seconds.
Bravo.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48641.msg1481087#msg1481087 date=1328972790]
I'd like to point out that several people on this site - Pesam, Robinhood and others - insisted that Jay Spearing is better than Lucas.
Amazing.
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Oh Jesus.
Lucas was actually good for about one game before he got crocked, and Spearing had showed some potential at the time I said I wanted to see him used more.
Ryan, I'm not sure I've ever come across anybody more bothered about what people think of him than you. I pity your hangups. But have a pat on the back for the Lucas thing, your irrational support of him may have run contrary to the evidence for two years, but eventually you were miraculously vindicated for about 30 seconds.
Bravo.
I think I said else where but I thought the line up and the mindset was very wrong from the start.
It seemed like we went out to contain them for the first sixty/seventy minutes and then would push on by bringing in Bellamy and Carroll.
I would sooner score in the first thirty minutes and defend a lead for the next sixty than the other way around.
I am a fan of Henderson and think he will be a player but there is no way he should have started ahead of Adam today, and practically any other day for that matter, and I am not in the Doc Mac class of fan of Adam either.
Downing on current form shouldn't start for the reserves
Thumbs down for Kenny today.
Stevie looks disinterested or unfit or both. Perhaps he has lost the belief in our ability to preform.
It seemed like we went out to contain them for the first sixty/seventy minutes and then would push on by bringing in Bellamy and Carroll.
I would sooner score in the first thirty minutes and defend a lead for the next sixty than the other way around.
I am a fan of Henderson and think he will be a player but there is no way he should have started ahead of Adam today, and practically any other day for that matter, and I am not in the Doc Mac class of fan of Adam either.
Downing on current form shouldn't start for the reserves
Thumbs down for Kenny today.
Stevie looks disinterested or unfit or both. Perhaps he has lost the belief in our ability to preform.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48641.msg1481154#msg1481154 date=1328975525]
Oh, and how is it alright for Fergie to say to the media that Suarez is a disgrace for our club and shouldnt be allowed to play again?
God I hate these inbred cunts even more after all this. Shambles
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Oh come on, I mean he said it after Cantona attacked that fan didn't he?
Oh, and how is it alright for Fergie to say to the media that Suarez is a disgrace for our club and shouldnt be allowed to play again?
God I hate these inbred cunts even more after all this. Shambles
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Oh come on, I mean he said it after Cantona attacked that fan didn't he?
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