Madrid get Real over Suarez swoop

[Dirty Sanchez]

Honestly I'd prefer to have 50m on hand than him. It really could help us rebuild. Blessing In Disguise for sure. I'm done with expecting loyalty from these footballers (Liverpool born excepted)

I think that this is accurate. It doesn't matter if you sell your best player - the team will carry on and will do well regardless. United lose Ronaldo. And they still win the league. It doesn't matter.
Get 50m for the cunt, reinvest in players who don't warrant all the fucking drama.

 

[juniormember]

I'd still rather keep him.

 

[Farkmaster]

I think that this is accurate. It doesn't matter if you sell your best player - the team will carry on and will do well regardless. United lose Ronaldo. And they still win the league. It doesn't matter.
Get 50m for the cunt, reinvest in players who don't warrant all the fucking drama.

There will be some level of "drama" with every single really world class striker we ever have, until we are in the champions league. It's unlikely the drama will be biting-related. There will certainly be drama with Sturridge even if he's just very good, and not world class, since he's English.

If we get two decent players and don't make Champions league next season, and Coutinho plays at the level he did this season, he'll be off next year too.

The worst problem we could have this time next year is being out of the Champions league, and not having any players who warrant the drama.

 

[juniormember]

Transfer drama on top of racist and biting drama is a drama too far for some Farky.

 

[Farkmaster]

Transfer drama on top of racist and biting drama is a drama too far for some Farky.

And it came out of nowhere! Who could have predicted Suarez would be embroiled in a transfer drama, and that the media would be covering it so intensely. It's all very overwhelming.

Edit: I've gone full sarcastic douchebag. I guess I'm acting out at the inevitable. Another brilliant player on his way. We're a stepping stone as opposed to a lift.

 

[localny]

Too much drama is right. You want to drag this out in the media? This is Liverpool - NEXT!!!

 

[Rafiagra]

If we sell him, we need to sign the hottest prospects there are around, who we wouldn't normally and are probably quite expensive for what they are (now), rather than 'clever' signings. I'd go for Fischer from Ajax as he's looked brilliant esp when he tore us a new one in the Next Gen tournament. We also need someone like a Javi Martinez type player but not sure who fits that bill.

 

[Spionkop69]

I think that this is accurate. It doesn't matter if you sell your best player - the team will carry on and will do well regardless. United lose Ronaldo. And they still win the league. It doesn't matter.
Get 50m for the cunt, reinvest in players who don't warrant all the fucking drama.

Hold on a minute.

We've use finished 7th after finishing 8th. What we should be doing is keeping our best player and getting more quality around him so that we finish higher than previous seasons.

Oh and as an opposite example, to your drama comment, I will present you Eric Cantona. I bet Utd wished they'd never bought him or that they'd sold him quick....

 

[Judge Jules]

Hold on a minute.

We've use finished 7th after finishing 8th. What we should be doing is keeping our best player and getting more quality around him so that we finish higher than previous seasons.

Oh and as an opposite example, to your drama comment, I will present you Eric Cantona. I bet Utd wished they'd never bought him or that they'd sold him quick....

This. Raking in the £50 mill.would be all very well but (a) we don't know how much would be made available for transfers and (b) we'd still have to spend it effectively enough to leave the team in a stronger position without the man whom Stevie G calls the best striker he's ever played with.

 

[King Binny]

Daily Mail's Dominic King

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...est-price-chase-town.html?ico=sport^headlines

On the morning of April 21, Luis Suarez gave an interview to the Sunday Times that makes a mockery of his stated reasons for wanting to leave Liverpool.

In that interview, a number of subjects were discussed, chief among them his prospects of being named Footballer of the Year.

Suarez felt he had no hope of the PFA version. But then he said: 'I think this year I've got more chance in the press vote than I have with the players. Why? On the one hand the press can criticise you but on the other they give out praise.

'And from what they tell me - because I honestly don't read the press here - I hear they've spoken about me pretty well. I've been criticised, but only on issues I knew myself I had to do something about. They've judged much more on what I've done on the field, which is positive in itself.'

April 21, for the record, was also the day Liverpool hosted Chelsea; the day Suarez bit Chelsea's Branislav Ivanovic.

So having spent the best part of a year being oblivious to the platitudes that had come his way, he has suddenly started reading every article about him? Nonsense.

In citing the media as the reason he is no longer 'comfortable' on Merseyside, Suarez has shown a lack of respect to those who have stood by him at each of his controversial junctures.

Many at Anfield have put their reputations on the line to protect Suarez. Kenny Dalglish, when he was manager, stood by Suarez after he racially abused Patrice Evra. Brendan Rodgers did likewise many times last season.

For Suarez to act the way he has done, then, in the last 48 hours shows him to be nothing other than self-centred.

Liverpool should not be bending over backwards to keep an individual happy, certainly not one who has shown them contempt in return.

Liverpool supporters cannot be hoodwinked. Had Suarez said he wanted a move to play in the Champions League, there would have been disappointment but an acceptance. The excuses he has provided, however, are as risible as they are disrespectful.

They should quickly get the best price they can before sending him on his way - he is not deserving of their loyalty.

 

[Mamma Mia]

Lol @ Dominic

"How dare he suggest that the press are hounding him out? He really should just leave!"

 

[red_maradona]

Suarez is probably the most skillful Liverpool player I have ever seen. I love him, pls stay.

 

[Modo]

Suarez is probably the most skillful Liverpool player I have ever seen. I love him, pls stay.

No one has come close to John Barnes, yet.
But if Coutinho gives us 10 years he might.

 

[Judge Jules]

Suarez is every bit as skilful as Digger was.

 

[Rosco]

Hold on a minute.

We've use finished 7th after finishing 8th. What we should be doing is keeping our best player and getting more quality around him so that we finish higher than previous seasons.
..

How did Spurs break into the top four? By keeping Keane, Berbatov and Modric?
Nope

By selling when a good offer comes in and reinvesting wisely. That's what we need to do. And we need to get rid of quite a few if our 'best' players if we want to make the top four anytime soon.

 

[Fox]

Suarez is every bit as skilful as Digger was.

No way

 

[Judge Jules]

Matter of opinion, innit? They were different players playing in different positions. As a wide player I'd choose Digger every time, but down the middle Suarez makes opportunities for himself which Digger would have had a job turning into chances in the same way.

 

[TSD]

How did Spurs break into the top four? By keeping Keane, Berbatov and Modric?
Nope

By selling when a good offer comes in and reinvesting wisely. That's what we need to do. And we need to get rid of quite a few if our 'best' players if we want to make the top four anytime soon.

Exactly.

We'd have to get used to the fact that until we reclaim our football eminence (soon, really soon, me feel it in the waters), we're a selling club, and seen as a stepping stone rather than the big club to be at. Of course, we still have a lot of pedigree and history in world football, but at the moment, we are easily a tier below the likes of the Manchester clubs, Chelsea, Barca, Real, PSG and now Monaco, precisely because they (except for Monaco) can offer both the stage - and money - for top footballers.

Without champions' league, we can't offer the stage, and with another billionaire-owned club, Monaco, appearing on the scene, we can't compete financially too. What this means is that scouting, coaching, tactics and winning mentality - football fundamentals essentially - come more into play. Get that right, and success on and off the pitch follows.

All is not lost when it comes to our appeal as a club, though. I'd put us as the same tier as Arsenal, despite them having CL. Sure, we can't get the Cavani's, the Falcao's, but there's plenty to pick from the next tier of players, the Erikson's, the Muniain's, players on the cusp of superstardom. Not to mention the Muriel's and Alberto's, those young'uns bursting with ability and potential who are only starting to gain public recognition. There's plenty more talented fish in the sea to go round.

 

[red_maradona]

Lad

How did Spurs break into the top four? By keeping Keane, Berbatov and Modric?
Nope

By selling when a good offer comes in and reinvesting wisely. That's what we need to do. And we need to get rid of quite a few if our 'best' players if we want to make the top four anytime soon.

last time I checked they were not in the top 4

 

[Fabio]

I'll trust the judge on this

 

[mark1975]

Lad

last time I checked they were not in the top 4

Quite. They sold him, bought a few more players and pretty much stayed where they were at, let's lose this pretense that selling your best players is the only way to fund improvement, that's complete and utter bullshit and blatantly ignoring the fact that we (and Spurs) have quite a few very ordinary players who are dragging us down.

 

[Rosco]

Quite. They sold him, bought a few more players and pretty much stayed where they were at, let's lose this pretense that selling your best players is the only way to fund improvement, that's complete and utter bullshit and blatantly ignoring the fact that we (and Spurs) have quite a few very ordinary players who are dragging us down.

Well we could just spend 500m like Man City did to break into the top four ..... Oh wait ....

 

[Glen C]

Leeds sold Cantona and look what happened to them.

Right now we have one best attacks in the premiership. I say we do what manure did and made Ronaldo stay more season and then sell. I truly believe if he stays and we get a decent defence we can break top 4 this season.

 

[mark1975]

Well we could just spend 500m like Man City did to break into the top four ..... Oh wait ....

But it's not the only way Ross, or the only issue (Lucas, Johnson, etc), I'm not against selling btw, I'm a bit meh about it all now, Suarez or about £50m, it's much of a muchness if we invest it well, but it shouldn't be a policy. We're spending quite well anyway in fairness, you don't have to have City's resources to get in there.

 

[Hansern]

How did Spurs break into the top four? By keeping Keane, Berbatov and Modric?
Nope

By selling when a good offer comes in and reinvesting wisely. That's what we need to do. And we need to get rid of quite a few if our 'best' players if we want to make the top four anytime soon.

You do know that the only 2 times Spurs have finished 4th was with Modric in the team right?

 

[Rosco]

Nobody said it was the only way, it's the best way.

People have to wake up to the reality that shifting all the players we want rid of isn't going to give us much money to play with. The reason for that is because by the time some of our fans realise a player isn't worth his place/wages the entire league has it figured out already.

It's hard not to laugh at the notion that some fans think we could sell Reina for 20m, could sell Skrtel for double figures and a variety of other ideas. We can't afford to have a player 'earn' the guts of 20m over the next four years like Skrtel and be a back up. If we're willing to say x isn't good enough then we have to move them on. We have the most expensive mid table squad in the history of the Premier League.

We need to identify the new core we're going to build around, and add to them - everybody else can fuck off. And that core should not be the same core that's kept us in mid table for the last three years. Lucas, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger. They can all get to fuck.

 

[mark1975]

Nobody said it was the only way, it's the best way.

People have to wake up to the reality that shifting all the players we want rid of isn't going to give us much money to play with. The reason for that is because by the time some of our fans realise a player isn't worth his place/wages the entire league has it figured out already.

It's hard not to laugh at the notion that some fans think we could sell Reina for 20m, could sell Skrtel for double figures and a variety of other ideas. We can't afford to have a player 'earn' the guts of 20m over the next four years like Skrtel and be a back up. If we're willing to say x isn't good enough then we have to move them on. We have the most expensive mid table squad in the history of the Premier League.

We need to identify the new core we're going to build around, and add to them - everybody else can fuck off. And that core should not be the same core that's kept us in mid table for the last three years. Lucas, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger. They can all get to fuck.

Well I wouldn't argue against the sale of any of them, you know that (bar Reina). Of course those standard of players should go, I've reiterated it myself countless times that they're not good enough - we might not raise as much as selling a Suarez, but look at what we've been spending anyway, we need to be more ruthless with our buys and alot more clever, as we showed with the Sturridge/Coutinho signings. It shouldn't become a policy or necessity to sell your best players time and time again, what happens when this "core" becomes your best players? You can't keep chopping and changing forever, it's a knock on effect, you sell your best players and it implies that you can't sustain success and it changes the attitude not just of potential signings, but of existing staff too.

 

[Rosco]

When the core becomes good enough to be the basis of a title challenge you keep them, until it makes sense to sell them.

The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting something different to happen - that's what we're doin by trotting out the same core year after year knowing it doesn't work all the while we have to listen to cunts saying "we just need to add to our best players" even though our best players are shite and of midtable standard.

We have to chop and change right now or become more mediocre as our core gets worse and worse. None of them have any improvement left in them

 

[BlitzAce]

When I went to watch us vs spurs this season me and my mate were in the park before kick off as you do, everyone was singing then we sung the Suarez song and the whole place erupted little kids on their dads shoulders everything mental I've never seen anything like it, I turned to my mate who is a massive red but not Suarez' number one fan and he had goosebumps a little tear in his eye and told me I think I love Suarez now. What I'm getting at is how can he give it up just like that? It was the same with Torres. I wish Suarez would walk in to the park when everyone is singing and see how much he's loved. He'd be amazed I think. He won't get it at Madrid. Sorry if this is off topic or wrong thread as well just frustrated by it all.

 

[mark1975]

When the core becomes your best players you keep them, until it makes sense to sell them.

The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting something different to happen - that's what we're doin by trotting out the same core year after year knowing it doesn't work all the while we have to listen to cunts saying "we just need to add to our best players" even though our best players are shite and of midtable standard.

We have to chop and change right now or become more mediocre as our core gets worse and worse. None of them have any improvement left in them

I think to cut Rodgers some slack, he's only had a year with them. He's reshaped the attack and will hopefully now do similar with the defense. I don't think any of the devisive players are particularly safe, he's already tried to freeze a few of them out and word has it he wants to completely rebuild the defense. I don't think Downing, Johnson, Enrique, Skrtel or even Lucas look like they have secure futures, but building takes time and you can't do it all overnight, that includes getting rid. He's given many of them a year, if he's worth his salt he'll know what's what and who's not got the required ability/consistency.

All we've really done though is return to my initial point, we have alot of mediocre players who we need to get rid of sooner rather than later, that's as much an issue as considering selling our biggest asset to fund a revolution.