Lyon v Liverpool, Champions League, Wednesday
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[quote author=Vanbasten84 link=topic=36888.msg978377#msg978377 date=1257333169]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=36888.msg978355#msg978355 date=1257331281]
If Voronin starts I'll cry
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tears of joy
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I thought I was the last of the Voronin apologists around, looks like i've company.
It's not that I rate him or want him to ever start but at least he tries to play it intelligently and has a nice touch about it. Poor Andrei, his body just can't match what his brain is thinking.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=36888.msg978355#msg978355 date=1257331281]
If Voronin starts I'll cry
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tears of joy
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I thought I was the last of the Voronin apologists around, looks like i've company.
It's not that I rate him or want him to ever start but at least he tries to play it intelligently and has a nice touch about it. Poor Andrei, his body just can't match what his brain is thinking.
If he got rid of that stupid fucking ponytail I might start to take him a bit more seriously.
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Squiggles
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Fuck Voronin. He was absolutely awful at the weekend.
--------------Masher-----------Lucas-------------------
----------------------Aquilani----------------------------
------Kuyt--------------------------------Yossi--------
-----------------------Torres----------------------------
--------------Masher-----------Lucas-------------------
----------------------Aquilani----------------------------
------Kuyt--------------------------------Yossi--------
-----------------------Torres----------------------------
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36888.msg977782#msg977782 date=1257256846]
I agree sheiky, but it's tomorrow mate!
-------------------------------------Reina---------------
Darby Carra-------Kyriagos --------Agger------Insua
----------------------Mascher---------------Lucas-------------
-----------------------------------Aquilani------------------
-----------------Kuyt--------------Torres----------Yossi
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I've amended that for you.
I agree sheiky, but it's tomorrow mate!
-------------------------------------Reina---------------
----------------------Mascher---------------Lucas-------------
-----------------------------------Aquilani------------------
-----------------Kuyt--------------Torres----------Yossi
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I've amended that for you.
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[quote author=Glock link=topic=36888.msg978354#msg978354 date=1257331207]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=36888.msg978350#msg978350 date=1257330889]
I've got a feeling that we'll see both Agger, Aquilani and Torres start tonight.
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If he start Torres, we might never see Torres for another a month or so because he might need a surgery. Let us see what the genius plan tonight.
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This may not have occurred to you but I think Rafa is in a better position to make that call than you. Y'know, what with all the expert medical advice and stuff.
Thanks for the warning though.
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is that the same medical staff that told benitez that aquilani would be fit between 4-8weeks? 😉
[quote author=Glock link=topic=36888.msg978354#msg978354 date=1257331207]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=36888.msg978350#msg978350 date=1257330889]
I've got a feeling that we'll see both Agger, Aquilani and Torres start tonight.
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If he start Torres, we might never see Torres for another a month or so because he might need a surgery. Let us see what the genius plan tonight.
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This may not have occurred to you but I think Rafa is in a better position to make that call than you. Y'know, what with all the expert medical advice and stuff.
Thanks for the warning though.
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is that the same medical staff that told benitez that aquilani would be fit between 4-8weeks? 😉
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=36888.msg978598#msg978598 date=1257347931]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=36888.msg978378#msg978378 date=1257333211]
[quote author=Glock link=topic=36888.msg978354#msg978354 date=1257331207]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=36888.msg978350#msg978350 date=1257330889]
I've got a feeling that we'll see both Agger, Aquilani and Torres start tonight.
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If he start Torres, we might never see Torres for another a month or so because he might need a surgery. Let us see what the genius plan tonight.
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This may not have occurred to you but I think Rafa is in a better position to make that call than you. Y'know, what with all the expert medical advice and stuff.
Thanks for the warning though.
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is that the same medical staff that told benitez that aquilani would be fit between 4-8weeks? 😉
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So if you got ill or hurt, you'd go to Glock for advice rather than trained medical staff?
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=36888.msg978378#msg978378 date=1257333211]
[quote author=Glock link=topic=36888.msg978354#msg978354 date=1257331207]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=36888.msg978350#msg978350 date=1257330889]
I've got a feeling that we'll see both Agger, Aquilani and Torres start tonight.
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If he start Torres, we might never see Torres for another a month or so because he might need a surgery. Let us see what the genius plan tonight.
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This may not have occurred to you but I think Rafa is in a better position to make that call than you. Y'know, what with all the expert medical advice and stuff.
Thanks for the warning though.
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is that the same medical staff that told benitez that aquilani would be fit between 4-8weeks? 😉
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So if you got ill or hurt, you'd go to Glock for advice rather than trained medical staff?
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=36888.msg978598#msg978598 date=1257347931]
is that the same medical staff that told benitez that aquilani would be fit between 4-8weeks? 😉
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I'm sick of hearing this shit, both when it's used as an example of Benitez having hard luck (there are plenty of actual examples), and when it's used as an example, by those who have no fucking clue about the specifics of any of the injuries our players incur.
Predicting recovery from injury is not an exact science, and is highly individualized, especially with the aggressive recovery schedules and methods used by top tier athletics.
is that the same medical staff that told benitez that aquilani would be fit between 4-8weeks? 😉
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I'm sick of hearing this shit, both when it's used as an example of Benitez having hard luck (there are plenty of actual examples), and when it's used as an example, by those who have no fucking clue about the specifics of any of the injuries our players incur.
Predicting recovery from injury is not an exact science, and is highly individualized, especially with the aggressive recovery schedules and methods used by top tier athletics.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=36888.msg978414#msg978414 date=1257336193]
As regards Voronin, you have to be a bit careful what you say about individual players in a game like this or you can end up with egg over your face.
I think he is pretty hopeless but he did well in the German league, so who knows
It's not great position is it? In fairness though no one could have planned very well for this set of circumstances.
However, if it is one thing Rafa is good at, it is one-off back against the wall matches, and these sort of games can end up as being a kick starts, and more than once we have seen unlikely heroes born, and people slotting into positions that we would not expect.
Let's hope it's that way tonight.
regards
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Evening, Vlad. Voronin is not without ability and has some footballing intelligence but he lacks that ever so precious commodity that can make such a difference at the top level which is extreme pace. For that reason, he is unlikely to play regularly enough to produce his best form for Liverpool however, if he plays tonight, I'm sure we'll all be wishing him the best.
As regards Voronin, you have to be a bit careful what you say about individual players in a game like this or you can end up with egg over your face.
I think he is pretty hopeless but he did well in the German league, so who knows
It's not great position is it? In fairness though no one could have planned very well for this set of circumstances.
However, if it is one thing Rafa is good at, it is one-off back against the wall matches, and these sort of games can end up as being a kick starts, and more than once we have seen unlikely heroes born, and people slotting into positions that we would not expect.
Let's hope it's that way tonight.
regards
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Evening, Vlad. Voronin is not without ability and has some footballing intelligence but he lacks that ever so precious commodity that can make such a difference at the top level which is extreme pace. For that reason, he is unlikely to play regularly enough to produce his best form for Liverpool however, if he plays tonight, I'm sure we'll all be wishing him the best.
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=36888.msg978705#msg978705 date=1257360362]
Liverpool: Reina, Carragher, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Insua, Kuyt, Lucas, Mascherano, Benayoun, Voronin, Torres.
Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Babel, Ngog, Spearing, Darby, Ayala.
[/quote]Bollocks. I was really hoping for Aquilani to start.
Ah well. Lets get into these.
Liverpool: Reina, Carragher, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Insua, Kuyt, Lucas, Mascherano, Benayoun, Voronin, Torres.
Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Babel, Ngog, Spearing, Darby, Ayala.
[/quote]Bollocks. I was really hoping for Aquilani to start.
Ah well. Lets get into these.
S
Squiggles
Guest
Christ...
Not looking good.
Not looking good.
S
Squiggles
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[quote author=ILD link=topic=36888.msg978437#msg978437 date=1257337866]
[quote author=Vanbasten84 link=topic=36888.msg978377#msg978377 date=1257333169]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=36888.msg978355#msg978355 date=1257331281]
If Voronin starts I'll cry
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tears of joy
[/quote]
I thought I was the last of the Voronin apologists around, looks like i've company.
It's not that I rate him or want him to ever start but at least he tries to play it intelligently and has a nice touch about it. Poor Andrei, his body just can't match what his brain is thinking.
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You knew you weren't the last..I did think you were part of the last two though!!
[quote author=Vanbasten84 link=topic=36888.msg978377#msg978377 date=1257333169]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=36888.msg978355#msg978355 date=1257331281]
If Voronin starts I'll cry
[/quote]
tears of joy
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I thought I was the last of the Voronin apologists around, looks like i've company.
It's not that I rate him or want him to ever start but at least he tries to play it intelligently and has a nice touch about it. Poor Andrei, his body just can't match what his brain is thinking.
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You knew you weren't the last..I did think you were part of the last two though!!
I was really hoping for a *special* Liverpool performance tonight.
You know, like Marseille away.. or Juventus away.. where we go and get the result we're after despite the odds..
.. then I saw Voronin, and almost all hope has been lost. I'd rather Rafa played himself than that waster. Only Fernando can save us tonight..
You know, like Marseille away.. or Juventus away.. where we go and get the result we're after despite the odds..
.. then I saw Voronin, and almost all hope has been lost. I'd rather Rafa played himself than that waster. Only Fernando can save us tonight..
We need Kuyt to step up a bit, and hope for a bit of magic from Benny and Torres too, before they're taken off. At least the bench has a few attacking options, obviously not proven or great ones, but better than some we've seen before.
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=36888.msg978714#msg978714 date=1257361023]
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Who's J?
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Who's J?
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[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36888.msg978713#msg978713 date=1257360965]
Not confident at all with that line up 🙁
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Except starting an unfit Aquilani there isn't much else that can be played tonight.
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I would have started him no questions, now is not the time to protect players if you can walk you play
it all depends though on how some of these players do, if they put in another gutless performance (which im half expecting) then i'll be disappointed
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36888.msg978713#msg978713 date=1257360965]
Not confident at all with that line up 🙁
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Except starting an unfit Aquilani there isn't much else that can be played tonight.
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I would have started him no questions, now is not the time to protect players if you can walk you play
it all depends though on how some of these players do, if they put in another gutless performance (which im half expecting) then i'll be disappointed
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=36888.msg978720#msg978720 date=1257361221]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=36888.msg978714#msg978714 date=1257361023]
[size=14pt]Believe![/size]
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Who's J?
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Shhhh.. Pretend it's a posh 'I'.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=36888.msg978720#msg978720 date=1257361221]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=36888.msg978714#msg978714 date=1257361023]
[size=14pt]Believe![/size]
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Who's J?
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Shhhh.. Pretend it's a posh 'I'.
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[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=36888.msg978705#msg978705 date=1257360362]
Liverpool: Reina, Carragher, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Insua, Kuyt, Lucas, Mascherano, Benayoun, Voronin, Torres.
Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Babel, Ngog, Spearing, Darby, Ayala.
[/quote]Bollocks. I was really hoping for Aquilani to start.
Ah well. Lets get into these.
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Looks like I'll get to see his first start next Monday so...
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=36888.msg978705#msg978705 date=1257360362]
Liverpool: Reina, Carragher, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Insua, Kuyt, Lucas, Mascherano, Benayoun, Voronin, Torres.
Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Babel, Ngog, Spearing, Darby, Ayala.
[/quote]Bollocks. I was really hoping for Aquilani to start.
Ah well. Lets get into these.
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Looks like I'll get to see his first start next Monday so...
Voronin will score.
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