Luis Suarez and Andy Carroll
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If we spend 20 million pounds on Micah Richards, i will certainly burst an artery.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44113.msg1281036#msg1281036 date=1297094302]
I think people are getting carried away with the success of this formation. For me it's a temporary/occasional thing. We still need a towering CB, a left-footed LB, at least one fast winger, and a mobile, tough-tackling DM before we'll be serious title contenders.
I am really excited about Carroll and Suarez. I want us to play them together upfront though - not with Suarez out on the left.
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Yep, I can't see this being the long term permanent formation, it simply not attacking enough usually. Against teams we need to nullify however it makes sense & may be operated on sub occasions.
I think people are getting carried away with the success of this formation. For me it's a temporary/occasional thing. We still need a towering CB, a left-footed LB, at least one fast winger, and a mobile, tough-tackling DM before we'll be serious title contenders.
I am really excited about Carroll and Suarez. I want us to play them together upfront though - not with Suarez out on the left.
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Yep, I can't see this being the long term permanent formation, it simply not attacking enough usually. Against teams we need to nullify however it makes sense & may be operated on sub occasions.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=44113.msg1281063#msg1281063 date=1297096259]
Whos on your bench though? Skittles Fabio N'Gog Kuyt Lucas and Maxi? Not that scary really is it?
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if we buy two wingers then one of them or meireles would have to drop bench.
also bear in mind that suso and raheem have been promoted.
I'm more concerned with the first team than bench to be honest.
Whos on your bench though? Skittles Fabio N'Gog Kuyt Lucas and Maxi? Not that scary really is it?
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if we buy two wingers then one of them or meireles would have to drop bench.
also bear in mind that suso and raheem have been promoted.
I'm more concerned with the first team than bench to be honest.
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Squiggles
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Players should always be purchased for the first team.
It's how you make a good squad.
Not by buying shit freebies like Voronin and Degen to 'fill a hole'.
It's how you make a good squad.
Not by buying shit freebies like Voronin and Degen to 'fill a hole'.
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44113.msg1281036#msg1281036 date=1297094302]
I think people are getting carried away with the success of this formation. For me it's a temporary/occasional thing. We still need a towering CB, a left-footed LB, at least one fast winger, and a mobile, tough-tackling DM before we'll be serious title contenders.
I am really excited about Carroll and Suarez. I want us to play them together upfront though - not with Suarez out on the left.
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I can understanding the thinking behind getting a left back but if we can use glen there (and he seems more than capable) then we should be looking to use that money elsewhere.
nesv have said they are only going to use profit/turnover/sales for purchases (they could be lying but lets go with that);
say we sell the following
cole
jove
aqua
poulsen
cuntchesky
(basically players that hardly ever play) and we raise 20m (12m for aqua, 8 for the rest) and then ad 20m from profit/turnover
40m
I'd rather that 40-50m was spent on three positions;
CM
wide midfielders
CB - carra/agger - skrtel as cover
fullbacks - kelly/johnson - aurelio as cover
wide midfieders - 2 new wingers - kuyt/maxi as cover
holding midfielders - 1 new holding midfielder - lucas as cover
attackers - carrol/suarez - kuyt/ngog as cover
smaller, leaner squad with little to no dead wood.
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I hear what you're saying Neil, but that's still a very thin squad. A couple of injuries and we'd be fucked. Fabio 'Glass' Aurelio as the only full-back cover is a scary thought.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44113.msg1281036#msg1281036 date=1297094302]
I think people are getting carried away with the success of this formation. For me it's a temporary/occasional thing. We still need a towering CB, a left-footed LB, at least one fast winger, and a mobile, tough-tackling DM before we'll be serious title contenders.
I am really excited about Carroll and Suarez. I want us to play them together upfront though - not with Suarez out on the left.
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I can understanding the thinking behind getting a left back but if we can use glen there (and he seems more than capable) then we should be looking to use that money elsewhere.
nesv have said they are only going to use profit/turnover/sales for purchases (they could be lying but lets go with that);
say we sell the following
cole
jove
aqua
poulsen
cuntchesky
(basically players that hardly ever play) and we raise 20m (12m for aqua, 8 for the rest) and then ad 20m from profit/turnover
40m
I'd rather that 40-50m was spent on three positions;
CM
wide midfielders
CB - carra/agger - skrtel as cover
fullbacks - kelly/johnson - aurelio as cover
wide midfieders - 2 new wingers - kuyt/maxi as cover
holding midfielders - 1 new holding midfielder - lucas as cover
attackers - carrol/suarez - kuyt/ngog as cover
smaller, leaner squad with little to no dead wood.
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I hear what you're saying Neil, but that's still a very thin squad. A couple of injuries and we'd be fucked. Fabio 'Glass' Aurelio as the only full-back cover is a scary thought.
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[quote author=Avvy link=topic=44113.msg1281020#msg1281020 date=1297092643]
I don't think Skrtel needs replacing; I think he can still be a good CB if he's receiving instructions from Carra.
It's no accident that both Agger and Skrtel look far better when playing with Carra.
What we need is a top CB to eventually replace Carra and who can fill his mighty shoes.
My *hope* is by then that Agger and Skrtel might be that pairing we're hoping for.
With Kelly and Wilson as backup we'd be sorted.
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With Kenny chsing Micah Richards with a 20 Million quid offer in the last hours of the Transfer window, I think he see's Kellys long term future as CB?
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He may well do, but I don't think any interest he may have in Richards tells us much one way or the other. Richards (like Kelly himself as it happens) started out at CB, though his main opportunities have come at RB. Either of them could play either position.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=44113.msg1281020#msg1281020 date=1297092643]
I don't think Skrtel needs replacing; I think he can still be a good CB if he's receiving instructions from Carra.
It's no accident that both Agger and Skrtel look far better when playing with Carra.
What we need is a top CB to eventually replace Carra and who can fill his mighty shoes.
My *hope* is by then that Agger and Skrtel might be that pairing we're hoping for.
With Kelly and Wilson as backup we'd be sorted.
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With Kenny chsing Micah Richards with a 20 Million quid offer in the last hours of the Transfer window, I think he see's Kellys long term future as CB?
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He may well do, but I don't think any interest he may have in Richards tells us much one way or the other. Richards (like Kelly himself as it happens) started out at CB, though his main opportunities have come at RB. Either of them could play either position.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44113.msg1281094#msg1281094 date=1297098552]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44113.msg1281058#msg1281058 date=1297096006]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44113.msg1281036#msg1281036 date=1297094302]
I think people are getting carried away with the success of this formation. For me it's a temporary/occasional thing. We still need a towering CB, a left-footed LB, at least one fast winger, and a mobile, tough-tackling DM before we'll be serious title contenders.
I am really excited about Carroll and Suarez. I want us to play them together upfront though - not with Suarez out on the left.
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I can understanding the thinking behind getting a left back but if we can use glen there (and he seems more than capable) then we should be looking to use that money elsewhere.
nesv have said they are only going to use profit/turnover/sales for purchases (they could be lying but lets go with that);
say we sell the following
cole
jove
aqua
poulsen
cuntchesky
(basically players that hardly ever play) and we raise 20m (12m for aqua, 8 for the rest) and then ad 20m from profit/turnover
40m
I'd rather that 40-50m was spent on three positions;
CM
wide midfielders
CB - carra/agger - skrtel as cover
fullbacks - kelly/johnson - aurelio as cover
wide midfieders - 2 new wingers - kuyt/maxi as cover
holding midfielders - 1 new holding midfielder - lucas as cover
attackers - carrol/suarez - kuyt/ngog as cover
smaller, leaner squad with little to no dead wood.
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I hear what you're saying Neil, but that's still a very thin squad. A couple of injuries and we'd be fucked. Fabio 'Glass' Aurelio as the only full-back cover is a scary thought.
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we should be looking to spend that 40-50m on no more than three players of high quality that go into the first team, these players will push the likes of lucas and kuyt out of the first team improving the squad. beyond that the depth should be made up of kids - shevely, wilson, suso, raheem.
the trouble with padding out the sqaud to add depth is these players hardly ever play and end up costing the club a fortune, they also take away money from transfer funds.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44113.msg1281058#msg1281058 date=1297096006]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44113.msg1281036#msg1281036 date=1297094302]
I think people are getting carried away with the success of this formation. For me it's a temporary/occasional thing. We still need a towering CB, a left-footed LB, at least one fast winger, and a mobile, tough-tackling DM before we'll be serious title contenders.
I am really excited about Carroll and Suarez. I want us to play them together upfront though - not with Suarez out on the left.
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I can understanding the thinking behind getting a left back but if we can use glen there (and he seems more than capable) then we should be looking to use that money elsewhere.
nesv have said they are only going to use profit/turnover/sales for purchases (they could be lying but lets go with that);
say we sell the following
cole
jove
aqua
poulsen
cuntchesky
(basically players that hardly ever play) and we raise 20m (12m for aqua, 8 for the rest) and then ad 20m from profit/turnover
40m
I'd rather that 40-50m was spent on three positions;
CM
wide midfielders
CB - carra/agger - skrtel as cover
fullbacks - kelly/johnson - aurelio as cover
wide midfieders - 2 new wingers - kuyt/maxi as cover
holding midfielders - 1 new holding midfielder - lucas as cover
attackers - carrol/suarez - kuyt/ngog as cover
smaller, leaner squad with little to no dead wood.
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I hear what you're saying Neil, but that's still a very thin squad. A couple of injuries and we'd be fucked. Fabio 'Glass' Aurelio as the only full-back cover is a scary thought.
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we should be looking to spend that 40-50m on no more than three players of high quality that go into the first team, these players will push the likes of lucas and kuyt out of the first team improving the squad. beyond that the depth should be made up of kids - shevely, wilson, suso, raheem.
the trouble with padding out the sqaud to add depth is these players hardly ever play and end up costing the club a fortune, they also take away money from transfer funds.
That's fine in theory, but we still need a less brittle player than Aurelio as cover for both full-backs, particularly as none of our promising youngsters play LB or RB.
Johnson / Aurelio / Kelly / Wilson as LBs is fine by me and it would be good to put that money elsewhere :
1. Complete the signing of Young that we started in January.
2. Absolutely we need a powerful CB - is Mertesacker still available at the end of the season ?
3. A quality DM (Defour perhaps, bags of energy, creativity and passing).
4. A better striker than N'Gog (he can be young - no problem with that - however I'm not at all sold on the idea of Conor Wickham).
5. Adam - 5M - still an excellent CM to have in the squad.
I think we'll have 50M+ to spend.
1. Complete the signing of Young that we started in January.
2. Absolutely we need a powerful CB - is Mertesacker still available at the end of the season ?
3. A quality DM (Defour perhaps, bags of energy, creativity and passing).
4. A better striker than N'Gog (he can be young - no problem with that - however I'm not at all sold on the idea of Conor Wickham).
5. Adam - 5M - still an excellent CM to have in the squad.
I think we'll have 50M+ to spend.
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=44113.msg1281199#msg1281199 date=1297107790]
Johnson / Aurelio / Kelly / Wilson as LBs is fine by me and it would be good to put that money elsewhere :
1. Complete the signing of Young that we started in January.
2. Absolutely we need a powerful CB - is Mertesacker still available at the end of the season ?
3. A quality DM (Defour perhaps, bags of energy, creativity and passing).
4. A better striker than N'Gog (he can be young - no problem with that - however I'm not at all sold on the idea of Conor Wickham).
5. Adam - 5M - still an excellent CM to have in the squad.
I think we'll have 50M+ to spend.
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1. We need better than young. He doesn't give 100% every game for Villa - especially this year. Get Eden Hazard instead. MOre expensive but far far more potential.
2. I'd be happy with Mertesacker
3. I thought Defour was more attacking? I wish I had a good idea for who we can bring in here ...
4. Wickham's a good shout, but if we have Carroll/Suarez/Kuyt, why do we need to spend money on a 'better' 4th striker? NGog is fine there.
5. I'd be ok with Adam but I think we can, and should, go for better.
Johnson / Aurelio / Kelly / Wilson as LBs is fine by me and it would be good to put that money elsewhere :
1. Complete the signing of Young that we started in January.
2. Absolutely we need a powerful CB - is Mertesacker still available at the end of the season ?
3. A quality DM (Defour perhaps, bags of energy, creativity and passing).
4. A better striker than N'Gog (he can be young - no problem with that - however I'm not at all sold on the idea of Conor Wickham).
5. Adam - 5M - still an excellent CM to have in the squad.
I think we'll have 50M+ to spend.
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1. We need better than young. He doesn't give 100% every game for Villa - especially this year. Get Eden Hazard instead. MOre expensive but far far more potential.
2. I'd be happy with Mertesacker
3. I thought Defour was more attacking? I wish I had a good idea for who we can bring in here ...
4. Wickham's a good shout, but if we have Carroll/Suarez/Kuyt, why do we need to spend money on a 'better' 4th striker? NGog is fine there.
5. I'd be ok with Adam but I think we can, and should, go for better.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=44113.msg1281018#msg1281018 date=1297092541]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=44113.msg1281017#msg1281017 date=1297092494]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281015#msg1281015 date=1297092276]
It's been a while since we've had two decent forwards at the club...
I'm going to go out on limb and say only one of them will still be here come sept 2012
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Well aren't you optimism personified.
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Every other post is negative, I don't understand him at all
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Can you read?
Im far from a pessimist.
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=44113.msg1281017#msg1281017 date=1297092494]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281015#msg1281015 date=1297092276]
It's been a while since we've had two decent forwards at the club...
I'm going to go out on limb and say only one of them will still be here come sept 2012
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Well aren't you optimism personified.
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Every other post is negative, I don't understand him at all
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Can you read?
Im far from a pessimist.
I wold be happy with young and another wide player and then use kuyt as cover for the strikers.
if we bring in a CB it should be to replace skrtel.
if we bring in adam than aqualini should definately be sold.
we should definately be looking to bing in a powerful/mobile holding midfielder.
if we bring in a CB it should be to replace skrtel.
if we bring in adam than aqualini should definately be sold.
we should definately be looking to bing in a powerful/mobile holding midfielder.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281203#msg1281203 date=1297108627]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=44113.msg1281018#msg1281018 date=1297092541]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=44113.msg1281017#msg1281017 date=1297092494]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281015#msg1281015 date=1297092276]
It's been a while since we've had two decent forwards at the club...
I'm going to go out on limb and say only one of them will still be here come sept 2012
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Well aren't you optimism personified.
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Every other post is negative, I don't understand him at all
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Can you read?
Im far from a pessimist.
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Your futher away than being an optimist, we just broke the club record twice on 2 new strikers (both on 5 year deals) and you say one won't be here in 18 months?
Whats that all about?
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=44113.msg1281018#msg1281018 date=1297092541]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=44113.msg1281017#msg1281017 date=1297092494]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281015#msg1281015 date=1297092276]
It's been a while since we've had two decent forwards at the club...
I'm going to go out on limb and say only one of them will still be here come sept 2012
[/quote]
Well aren't you optimism personified.
[/quote]
Every other post is negative, I don't understand him at all
[/quote]
Can you read?
Im far from a pessimist.
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Your futher away than being an optimist, we just broke the club record twice on 2 new strikers (both on 5 year deals) and you say one won't be here in 18 months?
Whats that all about?
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44113.msg1281205#msg1281205 date=1297108999]
I wold be happy with young and another wide player and then use kuyt as cover for the strikers. I'm with Wizzy on this. Young has talent but is too prone to picking and choosing whether or not he'll bother to use it.
if we bring in a CB it should be to replace skrtel. We may (rightly or wrongly 😉) get better money for Agger, who has been little or no better this season.
if we bring in adam than aqualini should definately be sold. His name is Aquilani, and he should be sold anyway.
we should definately be looking to bing in a powerful/mobile holding midfielder. Yes.
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I wold be happy with young and another wide player and then use kuyt as cover for the strikers. I'm with Wizzy on this. Young has talent but is too prone to picking and choosing whether or not he'll bother to use it.
if we bring in a CB it should be to replace skrtel. We may (rightly or wrongly 😉) get better money for Agger, who has been little or no better this season.
if we bring in adam than aqualini should definately be sold. His name is Aquilani, and he should be sold anyway.
we should definately be looking to bing in a powerful/mobile holding midfielder. Yes.
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It depends on available finances; but if we prioritize I agree with Neil that no.1 target would be a quality winger/wide midfielder.
Gerrard is our best midfielder; and perhaps we should be playing him in an advanced position in front of Ming; with Shelvey as backup..whilst Lucas isnt the ideal DM I'm not convinced that he can't improve in that position.
Our 'wide' midfielders consist of Maxi,Kuyt and Cole.
We could really use some firepower there.
Gerrard is our best midfielder; and perhaps we should be playing him in an advanced position in front of Ming; with Shelvey as backup..whilst Lucas isnt the ideal DM I'm not convinced that he can't improve in that position.
Our 'wide' midfielders consist of Maxi,Kuyt and Cole.
We could really use some firepower there.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=44113.msg1281209#msg1281209 date=1297109351]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281203#msg1281203 date=1297108627]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=44113.msg1281018#msg1281018 date=1297092541]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=44113.msg1281017#msg1281017 date=1297092494]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281015#msg1281015 date=1297092276]
It's been a while since we've had two decent forwards at the club...
I'm going to go out on limb and say only one of them will still be here come sept 2012
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Well aren't you optimism personified.
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Every other post is negative, I don't understand him at all
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Can you read?
Im far from a pessimist.
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Your futher away than being an optimist, we just broke the club record twice on 2 new strikers (both on 5 year deals) and you say one won't be here in 18 months?
Whats that all about?
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You said every other post is negative, go find me 10 negative posts from the past week, you won't.
RE my original comment, I just dont believe our playing style will accommodate two hungry, class forward players, I'd like to be proven wrong.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281203#msg1281203 date=1297108627]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=44113.msg1281018#msg1281018 date=1297092541]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=44113.msg1281017#msg1281017 date=1297092494]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281015#msg1281015 date=1297092276]
It's been a while since we've had two decent forwards at the club...
I'm going to go out on limb and say only one of them will still be here come sept 2012
[/quote]
Well aren't you optimism personified.
[/quote]
Every other post is negative, I don't understand him at all
[/quote]
Can you read?
Im far from a pessimist.
[/quote]
Your futher away than being an optimist, we just broke the club record twice on 2 new strikers (both on 5 year deals) and you say one won't be here in 18 months?
Whats that all about?
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You said every other post is negative, go find me 10 negative posts from the past week, you won't.
RE my original comment, I just dont believe our playing style will accommodate two hungry, class forward players, I'd like to be proven wrong.
you can right off young and say he isn't all that but I think he definately has talent, it's worth taking a gamble to try and get him back to the level he was a year and a half ago. seeing as we went for him last week, kenny feels the same.
would definately get rid of skrtel before agger because (no offense) defenders in the skrtel mould are 2 a penny but a ball playing center back is extremely rare.
aqua should be binned off as his wages are two high.
if we buy an attacking midfielder rather than a holding midfielder, lucas will see him off because there has to be at least one midfielder who is going to be the ball winner. even barca have a 'ball winner'.
would definately get rid of skrtel before agger because (no offense) defenders in the skrtel mould are 2 a penny but a ball playing center back is extremely rare.
aqua should be binned off as his wages are two high.
if we buy an attacking midfielder rather than a holding midfielder, lucas will see him off because there has to be at least one midfielder who is going to be the ball winner. even barca have a 'ball winner'.
Young is by no account a gamble. There's a reason why Utd and Citeh have joined us in showing interest in him as a summer signing.
We do need a ball winner but I would prioritise a pacy wide or AM to add creativity and pace to our attack.
The current system plays to our strengths and Kenny may well prefer a 4-4-2 in the future.
We do need a ball winner but I would prioritise a pacy wide or AM to add creativity and pace to our attack.
The current system plays to our strengths and Kenny may well prefer a 4-4-2 in the future.
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=44113.msg1281236#msg1281236 date=1297112207]
Young is by no account a gamble. There's a reason why Utd and Citeh have joined us in showing interest in him as a summer signing.
We do need a ball winner but I would prioritise a pacy wide or AM to add creativity and pace to our attack.
The current system plays to our strengths and Kenny may well prefer a 4-4-2 in the future.
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as I said, if we bought young, another winger (hazard), and a powerful holding midfielder and sold the dead wood that aren't getting a game I would consider that a successful transfer window.
use the players who get pushed out of the first team (kuyt, lucas) and youth wilson, shelvely, suso, raheem to 'pad out the squad' rather than buying cheap journey who contribute fuck all and we end out shipping out a season later (at great expense).
Young is by no account a gamble. There's a reason why Utd and Citeh have joined us in showing interest in him as a summer signing.
We do need a ball winner but I would prioritise a pacy wide or AM to add creativity and pace to our attack.
The current system plays to our strengths and Kenny may well prefer a 4-4-2 in the future.
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as I said, if we bought young, another winger (hazard), and a powerful holding midfielder and sold the dead wood that aren't getting a game I would consider that a successful transfer window.
use the players who get pushed out of the first team (kuyt, lucas) and youth wilson, shelvely, suso, raheem to 'pad out the squad' rather than buying cheap journey who contribute fuck all and we end out shipping out a season later (at great expense).
Neil - you must have missed the bit where I said "Young has talent". Neil and Roland - the question is whether he can apply it consistently. Villa clearly asked for more than we were prepared to pay, which tends to suggest we had one or two questions about him ourselves (rightly so in my view) or we'd have done what we did with Carroll.
CBs in the Skrtel mould and of the right standard are anything but two a penny.
Aquilani's wages certainly don't help but he should be sold anyway. Even if you think he'd eventually be able to crack the Prem (about which I'm far from convinced), he's desperate not to come back and would never justify those high wages if we made him do so.
I can't see us signing another attacking mid unless (a) it's a genuine wide man, which we do need, or (b) someone leaves to make way, and even then we'd sign a squaddie given that we're well off for such players already. I certainly agree we need a ball winner in some games at least, so we need to fetch that kind of player in.
CBs in the Skrtel mould and of the right standard are anything but two a penny.
Aquilani's wages certainly don't help but he should be sold anyway. Even if you think he'd eventually be able to crack the Prem (about which I'm far from convinced), he's desperate not to come back and would never justify those high wages if we made him do so.
I can't see us signing another attacking mid unless (a) it's a genuine wide man, which we do need, or (b) someone leaves to make way, and even then we'd sign a squaddie given that we're well off for such players already. I certainly agree we need a ball winner in some games at least, so we need to fetch that kind of player in.
Let's by all means improve at LB if we can, but with the form Magic's showing there I don't see it as a priority.
Agree otherwise.
Agree otherwise.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44113.msg1281249#msg1281249 date=1297113094]
We need a LB. Johnson is not a long-term solution.
We need another midfielder to replace Poulsen.
We need wingers.
And a CB would go amiss either.
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was carra a long term solution at left back? he stayed there for years.
poulsen should be fucked off, a mobile holding midfielder brought in with lucas taken poulsen's place on the bench, then it will be up to shevley and lucas to push for a first team place.
we definately need wingers. two of them.
a CB should replace either skrtel or agger and then wilson should push to get into the first team. if we get a CB and srktel AND agger stay then wilson should go out on loan.
We need a LB. Johnson is not a long-term solution.
We need another midfielder to replace Poulsen.
We need wingers.
And a CB would go amiss either.
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was carra a long term solution at left back? he stayed there for years.
poulsen should be fucked off, a mobile holding midfielder brought in with lucas taken poulsen's place on the bench, then it will be up to shevley and lucas to push for a first team place.
we definately need wingers. two of them.
a CB should replace either skrtel or agger and then wilson should push to get into the first team. if we get a CB and srktel AND agger stay then wilson should go out on loan.
Henry called Lerner to enquire about availabilty and was told he's not for sale. That may well have been a tactic to drive up price. We don't know. His refusal to negotiate will mean that come the summer, he'll have a year left on his contract. Mooted price in media is £12M.
Consistency I believe is achievable provided Young remains injury free and is viewed as a first team player.
A genuine pacy wide player is a must to stretch opposition and put in crosses for Andy. That would create carnage.
While we agree on a DM, it will be interesting to see if we go back in for Adam. That would be a yardstick on what Kenny's thoughts are on that particular position.
Consistency I believe is achievable provided Young remains injury free and is viewed as a first team player.
A genuine pacy wide player is a must to stretch opposition and put in crosses for Andy. That would create carnage.
While we agree on a DM, it will be interesting to see if we go back in for Adam. That would be a yardstick on what Kenny's thoughts are on that particular position.
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There is no chance in hell we'll be in for both Young AND Hazard .... and Hazard seems to have his eyes set on Spain AND will cost a helluva lot more than Young (English and young). Young will do me, errr I'll re-phrase that, he's already a quality player with even more potential.
As I said in my last post - yep defo a DM.
Skrtel isn't good enough and what we need is a BETTER CB than we have now in Agger / Skrtel / Soto. Mertesacker would be a great pick-up for little money (even free no) ?
Adam for 5M ? Yes please, we will have injuries and at the very very least he's top quality cover for SG / Ming.
If we end up with Young (12-15M), Mertesacker (free ?) and Adam (5M) for 20M that's bloody great business and still gives us maybe 30M for a DM and whatever else.
There is no chance in hell we'll be in for both Young AND Hazard .... and Hazard seems to have his eyes set on Spain AND will cost a helluva lot more than Young (English and young). Young will do me, errr I'll re-phrase that, he's already a quality player with even more potential.
As I said in my last post - yep defo a DM.
Skrtel isn't good enough and what we need is a BETTER CB than we have now in Agger / Skrtel / Soto. Mertesacker would be a great pick-up for little money (even free no) ?
Adam for 5M ? Yes please, we will have injuries and at the very very least he's top quality cover for SG / Ming.
If we end up with Young (12-15M), Mertesacker (free ?) and Adam (5M) for 20M that's bloody great business and still gives us maybe 30M for a DM and whatever else.
I can definately see us going for two wide players and spending a bit of money on them as well. we've spent 35m on a target man and we should attempt t pick up the best wide players we can lay our hands on to get the best out of him.
nothing would please me more than 2 quality wide players arriving along with a new holding midfielder. every other position I think we can get away with. as for CB wilson was personally scouted by kenny so kenny obviously rates so, carra, skrtel, agger, the greek and wilson is enough to cover the CB position if kenny wants to get rid of agger or skrtel the money from the sale should buy the new CB rather than touch the money earmarked for the wide players.
nothing would please me more than 2 quality wide players arriving along with a new holding midfielder. every other position I think we can get away with. as for CB wilson was personally scouted by kenny so kenny obviously rates so, carra, skrtel, agger, the greek and wilson is enough to cover the CB position if kenny wants to get rid of agger or skrtel the money from the sale should buy the new CB rather than touch the money earmarked for the wide players.
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I can definately see us going for two wide players and spending a bit of money on them as well. we've spent 35m on a target man and we should attempt t pick up the best wide players we can lay our hands on to get the best out of him.
nothing would please me more than 2 quality wide players arriving along with a new holding midfielder. every other position I think we can get away with. as for CB wilson was personally scouted by kenny so kenny obviously rates so, carra, skrtel, agger, the greek and wilson is enough to cover the CB position if kenny wants to get rid of agger or skrtel the money from the sale should buy the new CB rather than touch the money earmarked for the wide players.
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I know some our questioning the longevity of our current formation, but if it continues to work I can see us sticking with the 3-5-2. If this remains the case I think the following would be the priority:
- DM - chiote?
- striker - lukaku
- Left WB - no idea
- CB - no idea
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I can definately see us going for two wide players and spending a bit of money on them as well. we've spent 35m on a target man and we should attempt t pick up the best wide players we can lay our hands on to get the best out of him.
nothing would please me more than 2 quality wide players arriving along with a new holding midfielder. every other position I think we can get away with. as for CB wilson was personally scouted by kenny so kenny obviously rates so, carra, skrtel, agger, the greek and wilson is enough to cover the CB position if kenny wants to get rid of agger or skrtel the money from the sale should buy the new CB rather than touch the money earmarked for the wide players.
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I know some our questioning the longevity of our current formation, but if it continues to work I can see us sticking with the 3-5-2. If this remains the case I think the following would be the priority:
- DM - chiote?
- striker - lukaku
- Left WB - no idea
- CB - no idea
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