Luis Suarez and Andy Carroll
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kelly------miereles---gerrard--???-------johnson
---------------carrol----------suarez---------------
I still think we need to chase;
a dominant CB
a quality winger
a holding midfielder
but johnson's rise has lessened the need for a left back.
-----------carra----skrtel-----agger------------
kelly------miereles---gerrard--???-------johnson
---------------carrol----------suarez---------------
I still think we need to chase;
a dominant CB
a quality winger
a holding midfielder
but johnson's rise has lessened the need for a left back.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44113.msg1280848#msg1280848 date=1297079103]
-------------pepe---------------
-----------carra----skrtel-----agger------------
kelly------miereles---gerrard--???-------johnson
---------------carrol----------suarez---------------
I still think we need to chase;
a dominant CB
a quality winger
a holding midfielder
but johnson's rise has lessened the need for a left back.
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------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
I'm guessing this will be the line up, and tbh, it looks tasty.
-------------pepe---------------
-----------carra----skrtel-----agger------------
kelly------miereles---gerrard--???-------johnson
---------------carrol----------suarez---------------
I still think we need to chase;
a dominant CB
a quality winger
a holding midfielder
but johnson's rise has lessened the need for a left back.
[/quote]
-------------------------Pepe------------------------
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
I'm guessing this will be the line up, and tbh, it looks tasty.
-------------------------Pepe------------------------
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
This looks very nice a good couple of signings in the summer fanfuckingtastic
My wifes brother is a Chelsea fan god I'm going to give him some shit when I see him
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
This looks very nice a good couple of signings in the summer fanfuckingtastic
My wifes brother is a Chelsea fan god I'm going to give him some shit when I see him
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=44113.msg1280894#msg1280894 date=1297081712]
-------------------------Pepe------------------------
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
I'm guessing this will be the line up, and tbh, it looks tasty.
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4th? You know ..... maybe?
-------------------------Pepe------------------------
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
I'm guessing this will be the line up, and tbh, it looks tasty.
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4th? You know ..... maybe?
[quote author=acejmk link=topic=44113.msg1280920#msg1280920 date=1297083932]
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------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
This looks very nice a good couple of signings in the summer fanfuckingtastic
My wifes brother is a Chelsea fan god I'm going to give him some shit when I see him
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This looks very good indeed. If only we had a proper dynamic mid in Lucas' place, a towering CB in place of Skrtel and a winger or two at least as an option and we'd be diamond.
I hope the rumours that Carroll could be out for the rest of the season don't have any truth in them and we'll see him play sooner rather than later.
-------------------------Pepe------------------------
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
This looks very nice a good couple of signings in the summer fanfuckingtastic
My wifes brother is a Chelsea fan god I'm going to give him some shit when I see him
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This looks very good indeed. If only we had a proper dynamic mid in Lucas' place, a towering CB in place of Skrtel and a winger or two at least as an option and we'd be diamond.
I hope the rumours that Carroll could be out for the rest of the season don't have any truth in them and we'll see him play sooner rather than later.
Rise of the Johnson
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=44113.msg1280931#msg1280931 date=1297084658]
Rise of the Johnson
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Kenny=Viagra?
Rise of the Johnson
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Kenny=Viagra?
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------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
that is the best team for me also. would like to see a bench of:
gulacsi, kyriagos, shelvey, aurelio, cole, kuyt, pacheco
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
that is the best team for me also. would like to see a bench of:
gulacsi, kyriagos, shelvey, aurelio, cole, kuyt, pacheco
[quote author=the_dude link=topic=44113.msg1280990#msg1280990 date=1297089680]
-------------------------Pepe------------------------
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
that is the best team for me also. would like to see a bench of:
gulacsi, kyriagos, shelvey, aurelio, cole, kuyt, pacheco
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IF thats the best team we have, how many of them would you replace in the summer then?
Hoping that Carroll and Suarez do well?
Do we buy another striker?
looking at that formation its not like we need a winger
Though Lucas has improved, we would probably look to replace him
Skrtel might need replacing also.
-------------------------Pepe------------------------
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
that is the best team for me also. would like to see a bench of:
gulacsi, kyriagos, shelvey, aurelio, cole, kuyt, pacheco
[/quote]
IF thats the best team we have, how many of them would you replace in the summer then?
Hoping that Carroll and Suarez do well?
Do we buy another striker?
looking at that formation its not like we need a winger
Though Lucas has improved, we would probably look to replace him
Skrtel might need replacing also.
[quote author=Atlas link=topic=44113.msg1280993#msg1280993 date=1297089877]
[quote author=the_dude link=topic=44113.msg1280990#msg1280990 date=1297089680]
-------------------------Pepe------------------------
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
that is the best team for me also. would like to see a bench of:
gulacsi, kyriagos, shelvey, aurelio, cole, kuyt, pacheco
[/quote]
IF thats the best team we have, how many of them would you replace in the summer then?
Hoping that Carroll and Suarez do well?
Do we buy another striker?
looking at that formation its not like we need a winger
Though Lucas has improved, we would probably look to replace him
Skrtel might need replacing also.
[/quote]
Those are my thoughts..
[quote author=the_dude link=topic=44113.msg1280990#msg1280990 date=1297089680]
-------------------------Pepe------------------------
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
that is the best team for me also. would like to see a bench of:
gulacsi, kyriagos, shelvey, aurelio, cole, kuyt, pacheco
[/quote]
IF thats the best team we have, how many of them would you replace in the summer then?
Hoping that Carroll and Suarez do well?
Do we buy another striker?
looking at that formation its not like we need a winger
Though Lucas has improved, we would probably look to replace him
Skrtel might need replacing also.
[/quote]
Those are my thoughts..
[quote author=Atlas link=topic=44113.msg1280993#msg1280993 date=1297089877]
[quote author=the_dude link=topic=44113.msg1280990#msg1280990 date=1297089680]
-------------------------Pepe------------------------
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
that is the best team for me also. would like to see a bench of:
gulacsi, kyriagos, shelvey, aurelio, cole, kuyt, pacheco
[/quote]
IF thats the best team we have, how many of them would you replace in the summer then?
Hoping that Carroll and Suarez do well?
Do we buy another striker?
looking at that formation its not like we need a winger
Though Lucas has improved, we would probably look to replace him
Skrtel might need replacing also.
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Lucas and Skrtel need to be replaced as you said. We would still need a winger(or someone who can play on the wing or as AM like Young) to give variation to our play. I'm also not yet convinced this will be our long term formation.
[quote author=the_dude link=topic=44113.msg1280990#msg1280990 date=1297089680]
-------------------------Pepe------------------------
------------Carra----Skrtel-----Agger--------------
Kelly--------Lucas----------Gerrard-----Johnson
------------Ming----------------Suarez-------------
----------------------Carrol--------------------------
that is the best team for me also. would like to see a bench of:
gulacsi, kyriagos, shelvey, aurelio, cole, kuyt, pacheco
[/quote]
IF thats the best team we have, how many of them would you replace in the summer then?
Hoping that Carroll and Suarez do well?
Do we buy another striker?
looking at that formation its not like we need a winger
Though Lucas has improved, we would probably look to replace him
Skrtel might need replacing also.
[/quote]
Lucas and Skrtel need to be replaced as you said. We would still need a winger(or someone who can play on the wing or as AM like Young) to give variation to our play. I'm also not yet convinced this will be our long term formation.
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=44113.msg1281004#msg1281004 date=1297090443]
Lucas and Skrtel need to be replaced as you said. We would still need a winger(or someone who can play on the wing or as AM like Young) to give variation to our play. I'm also not yet convinced this will be our long term formation.
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Not sure if we'll keep this formation all the time though it's obviously worked well for the last couple of matches.
Lucas and Skrtel would make good squaddies. I'd be delighted if we can get commanding defender like Subotic in. Can't think of a suitable DM that could fit that role. So hopefully Lucas steps up. The bench looks weak though am partial to giving some of the youth e.g. Pacheo, Shelvey a go. Based on NESV's strategy of getting rid of aging non-top 4 deadwood: I'd say Konchesky, Poulson, Jovanovic, Kyrgiakos, Maxi for sure. Aurelio, Aquilani
and Cole maybe. Should be able to trade these guys for at last a top class defender. I'd be surprised if 1/2 of them get moved on in the end though.
Lucas and Skrtel need to be replaced as you said. We would still need a winger(or someone who can play on the wing or as AM like Young) to give variation to our play. I'm also not yet convinced this will be our long term formation.
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Not sure if we'll keep this formation all the time though it's obviously worked well for the last couple of matches.
Lucas and Skrtel would make good squaddies. I'd be delighted if we can get commanding defender like Subotic in. Can't think of a suitable DM that could fit that role. So hopefully Lucas steps up. The bench looks weak though am partial to giving some of the youth e.g. Pacheo, Shelvey a go. Based on NESV's strategy of getting rid of aging non-top 4 deadwood: I'd say Konchesky, Poulson, Jovanovic, Kyrgiakos, Maxi for sure. Aurelio, Aquilani
and Cole maybe. Should be able to trade these guys for at last a top class defender. I'd be surprised if 1/2 of them get moved on in the end though.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281015#msg1281015 date=1297092276]
It's been a while since we've had two decent forwards at the club...
I'm going to go out on limb and say only one of them will still be here come sept 2012
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Well aren't you optimism personified.
It's been a while since we've had two decent forwards at the club...
I'm going to go out on limb and say only one of them will still be here come sept 2012
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Well aren't you optimism personified.
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=44113.msg1281017#msg1281017 date=1297092494]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281015#msg1281015 date=1297092276]
It's been a while since we've had two decent forwards at the club...
I'm going to go out on limb and say only one of them will still be here come sept 2012
[/quote]
Well aren't you optimism personified.
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Every other post is negative, I don't understand him at all
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=44113.msg1281015#msg1281015 date=1297092276]
It's been a while since we've had two decent forwards at the club...
I'm going to go out on limb and say only one of them will still be here come sept 2012
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Well aren't you optimism personified.
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Every other post is negative, I don't understand him at all
I don't think Skrtel needs replacing; I think he can still be a good CB if he's receiving instructions from Carra.
It's no accident that both Agger and Skrtel look far better when playing with Carra.
What we need is a top CB to eventually replace Carra and who can fill his mighty shoes.
My *hope* is by then that Agger and Skrtel might be that pairing we're hoping for.
With Kelly and Wilson as backup we'd be sorted.
It's no accident that both Agger and Skrtel look far better when playing with Carra.
What we need is a top CB to eventually replace Carra and who can fill his mighty shoes.
My *hope* is by then that Agger and Skrtel might be that pairing we're hoping for.
With Kelly and Wilson as backup we'd be sorted.
S
Squiggles
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44113.msg1280848#msg1280848 date=1297079103]
-------------pepe---------------
-----------carra----skrtel-----agger------------
kelly------miereles---gerrard--???-------johnson
---------------carrol----------suarez---------------
I still think we need to chase;
a dominant CB
a quality winger
a holding midfielder
but johnson's rise has lessened the need for a left back.
[/quote]
Fielding 11 players should be our priority.
-------------pepe---------------
-----------carra----skrtel-----agger------------
kelly------miereles---gerrard--???-------johnson
---------------carrol----------suarez---------------
I still think we need to chase;
a dominant CB
a quality winger
a holding midfielder
but johnson's rise has lessened the need for a left back.
[/quote]
Fielding 11 players should be our priority.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=44113.msg1281020#msg1281020 date=1297092643]
I don't think Skrtel needs replacing; I think he can still be a good CB if he's receiving instructions from Carra.
It's no accident that both Agger and Skrtel look far better when playing with Carra.
What we need is a top CB to eventually replace Carra and who can fill his mighty shoes.
My *hope* is by then that Agger and Skrtel might be that pairing we're hoping for.
With Kelly and Wilson as backup we'd be sorted.
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With Kenny chsing Micah Richards with a 20 Million quid offer in the last hours of the Transfer window, I think he see's Kellys long term future as CB?
I don't think Skrtel needs replacing; I think he can still be a good CB if he's receiving instructions from Carra.
It's no accident that both Agger and Skrtel look far better when playing with Carra.
What we need is a top CB to eventually replace Carra and who can fill his mighty shoes.
My *hope* is by then that Agger and Skrtel might be that pairing we're hoping for.
With Kelly and Wilson as backup we'd be sorted.
[/quote]
With Kenny chsing Micah Richards with a 20 Million quid offer in the last hours of the Transfer window, I think he see's Kellys long term future as CB?
S
Squiggles
Guest
I overlooked the question marks, but anyway, Lucas deserves to be there on merit at the moment, so there's no need for them.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44113.msg1281021#msg1281021 date=1297092758]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44113.msg1280848#msg1280848 date=1297079103]
-------------pepe---------------
-----------carra----skrtel-----agger------------
kelly------miereles---gerrard--???-------johnson
---------------carrol----------suarez---------------
I still think we need to chase;
a dominant CB
a quality winger
a holding midfielder
but johnson's rise has lessened the need for a left back.
[/quote]
Fielding 11 players should be our priority.
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He has. The ?? denote the extra player, he isn't sure who that player should be though.
EDIT : Just saw your post above.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=44113.msg1280848#msg1280848 date=1297079103]
-------------pepe---------------
-----------carra----skrtel-----agger------------
kelly------miereles---gerrard--???-------johnson
---------------carrol----------suarez---------------
I still think we need to chase;
a dominant CB
a quality winger
a holding midfielder
but johnson's rise has lessened the need for a left back.
[/quote]
Fielding 11 players should be our priority.
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He has. The ?? denote the extra player, he isn't sure who that player should be though.
EDIT : Just saw your post above.
I think people are getting carried away with the success of this formation. For me it's a temporary/occasional thing. We still need a towering CB, a left-footed LB, at least one fast winger, and a mobile, tough-tackling DM before we'll be serious title contenders.
I am really excited about Carroll and Suarez. I want us to play them together upfront though - not with Suarez out on the left.
I am really excited about Carroll and Suarez. I want us to play them together upfront though - not with Suarez out on the left.
the formation i posted is the best with what we have at the moment. not saying that after summer it will change depending on who we buy.
regarding what i'd like in summer... i would like to see lucas replaced (not sold, he is a good squad member) with a good DM. a new CB is also needed due to a) agger's proneness to injury and b) carragher's age.
would also like young in. he can play wide and come in to a more central role.
Could have a starting line-up like:
Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Johnson *or a new CB
DM
gerrard meireles young
carroll suarez
formation like that would rely very much on getting a class defensive midfielder else the defence would be too exposed
regarding what i'd like in summer... i would like to see lucas replaced (not sold, he is a good squad member) with a good DM. a new CB is also needed due to a) agger's proneness to injury and b) carragher's age.
would also like young in. he can play wide and come in to a more central role.
Could have a starting line-up like:
Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Johnson *or a new CB
DM
gerrard meireles young
carroll suarez
formation like that would rely very much on getting a class defensive midfielder else the defence would be too exposed
At this stage Im leaving it to Kenny to decide if we need another striker, DM, CB. His judgement will do for me.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44113.msg1281036#msg1281036 date=1297094302]
I think people are getting carried away with the success of this formation. For me it's a temporary/occasional thing. We still need a towering CB, a left-footed LB, at least one fast winger, and a mobile, tough-tackling DM before we'll be serious title contenders.
I am really excited about Carroll and Suarez. I want us to play them together upfront though - not with Suarez out on the left.
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I can understanding the thinking behind getting a left back but if we can use glen there (and he seems more than capable) then we should be looking to use that money elsewhere.
nesv have said they are only going to use profit/turnover/sales for purchases (they could be lying but lets go with that);
say we sell the following
cole
jove
aqua
poulsen
cuntchesky
(basically players that hardly ever play) and we raise 20m (12m for aqua, 8 for the rest) and then ad 20m from profit/turnover
40m
I'd rather that 40-50m was spent on three positions;
CM
wide midfielders
CB - carra/agger - skrtel as cover
fullbacks - kelly/johnson - aurelio as cover
wide midfieders - 2 new wingers - kuyt/maxi as cover
holding midfielders - 1 new holding midfielder - lucas as cover
attackers - carrol/suarez - kuyt/ngog as cover
smaller, leaner squad with little to no dead wood.
I think people are getting carried away with the success of this formation. For me it's a temporary/occasional thing. We still need a towering CB, a left-footed LB, at least one fast winger, and a mobile, tough-tackling DM before we'll be serious title contenders.
I am really excited about Carroll and Suarez. I want us to play them together upfront though - not with Suarez out on the left.
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I can understanding the thinking behind getting a left back but if we can use glen there (and he seems more than capable) then we should be looking to use that money elsewhere.
nesv have said they are only going to use profit/turnover/sales for purchases (they could be lying but lets go with that);
say we sell the following
cole
jove
aqua
poulsen
cuntchesky
(basically players that hardly ever play) and we raise 20m (12m for aqua, 8 for the rest) and then ad 20m from profit/turnover
40m
I'd rather that 40-50m was spent on three positions;
CM
wide midfielders
CB - carra/agger - skrtel as cover
fullbacks - kelly/johnson - aurelio as cover
wide midfieders - 2 new wingers - kuyt/maxi as cover
holding midfielders - 1 new holding midfielder - lucas as cover
attackers - carrol/suarez - kuyt/ngog as cover
smaller, leaner squad with little to no dead wood.
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