Liverpool v Man Utd Match Thread

[manwithnoname]

It's hard to criticise Salah when he was our biggest threat today and is also our top goalscorer

Yes, he is hardly a clinical finisher and misses chances, but he's *getting* the chances, and also making plenty himself

It's hardly his fault that we don't actually have ANY clinical finishers.

And given that Salah *is* our top scorer, what's that cunt Firmino's excuse?

Two fucking goals in 8 games

But it's not a debate any more, as everyone now agrees about the striking situation. That still doesn't mean it's fair to start on Salah

 

[moron]

I only saw the game from the 60th minute today. But from what I saw - it looked like we were in control for most of that, and if the game was played like that without us going all guns blazing forward. What it does prove is that a little protection for our defense and we can still create chances but as I have mentioned - it seems the real fuck up artists in our team are the potential goal-scorers....they just cannot finish chances and we have no strikers of any ability. Sturridge is really past it.

 

[6TimesaRed]

Lukakunt.. What was he still doing on the pitch... ??

Ref had a mare..

Lukakunt should of been sent off and we should of had a penalty

As for firminio... He needs dropping./.. Well out of form... But sadly atm we have no one who can replace him

 

[KopRed]

Lukakunt.. What was he still doing on the pitch... ??

Ref had a mare..

Lukakunt should of been sent off and we should of had a penalty

As for firminio... He needs dropping./.. Well out of form... But sadly atm we have no one who can replace him

On a bad day, he's still better than Sturridge unfortunately. Solanke made no impression when he came on. He was only on for a few minutes to be fair. But yeah we don't have any alternatives.

 

[Fabio]

On a bad day, he's still better than Sturridge unfortunately. Solanke made no impression when he came on. He was only on for a few minutes to be fair. But yeah we don't have any alternatives.

4minutes for a 19 year old against a back 5 when our most creative players off

I'm not surprised he did fuck all

 

[Glen C]

Lukakunt.. What was he still doing on the pitch... ??

Ref had a mare..

Lukakunt should of been sent off and we should of had a penalty

As for firminio... He needs dropping./.. Well out of form... But sadly atm we have no one who can replace him

Out of form or just playing at his normal level? He's more miss than hit and always has been since hes' been here. Yes he offers great work rate but at the end of the day we need him to score and he doesn't do it often enough. So we just have to put up with it as that's how he's always going to be until Klopp finally realises that you don't win a league title with a player like firmino leading the line.

 

[gkmacca]

As the arch pedant that I am I couldn't help but be irked by the sight of 'Kenny Dalglish Stand' instead of 'The Kenny Dalglish Stand'. Every time he sits down now he's going to be staring at an instruction to get back up again.

The game was beyond frustrating, it was just dull. What did Mourinho sneer after last year's game? 'We showed that Liverpool are not the last wonder of the world, as you like to say they are'. Well, this time the same tactics showed that they're not the last wonder of the world, either, even though he's happy for others to say they are. I haven't seen much of them this season, but judging by the coverage I expected a far more dangerous test than they provided.

I'm still holding back from dismissing Sturridge because he's had hardly any decent service in the last couple of games. If he comes on he needs more than the odd punt up field to thrive on.

I thought generally we improved a little in terms of pressing - there was more hunting in packs than in recent performances - and we were a bit more sensible in defence. It's still the profligacy in attack that infuriates me - some of the shooting, for players of this level, was horrible.

 

[Red Mullet]

Out of form or just playing at his normal level? He's more miss than hit and always has been since hes' been here. Yes he offers great work rate but at the end of the day we need him to score and he doesn't do it often enough. So we just have to put up with it as that's how he's always going to be until Klopp finally realises that you don't win a league title with a player like firmino leading the line.

He’s out of form.

Coutinho was like that during his 3rd-4th year in the club with comments on him needing consistency. I think it the same with Firmino.

 

[Woland]

Predictable. Maureen knows what he needs to do to progress and got what he wanted. Nil nil or one nil to them was the clear result after ten mins. Klopp doesn't have the nouse to change a game.

 

[gkmacca]

Predictable. Maureen knows what he needs to do to progress and got what he wanted. Nil nil or one nil to them was the clear result after ten mins. Klopp doesn't have the nouse to change a game.

He doesn't have the players to change the game. I've no time for people giving Mourinho praise for his 'clever' tactics. Pulis is 'clever' in the same way if that's all it takes. Of all successful managers, especially among those who can afford to go and buy pretty much whoever they want in the game, no one shows less imagination, wit and genuinely broad intelligence than Mourinho. He has a narrow and negative plan, more limited than any of his so-called peers, and the praise he gets for sticking with it is frankly ludicrous.

 

[Woland]

I hate the cunt too, but all to often he gets what he wants.

 

[manwithnoname]

Mourinho knows how to win titles and trophies

I miss that

 

[MomoWASright]

I felt pissed of paying £40 for that shite. Then I remembered sky paid £11 million for it.

Mourinho is a cunt playing cuntish tactics. Hopefully sky drop the massively over the top build up to this tie because they are now suxh a drab game.

Also, I’d love to see Herrera get proper snapped.

 

[the count]

We may not have to suffer his tactics for much longer the whore...

Jose Mourinho has ruled out spending the rest of his career at Manchester United.
The Red Devils manager said in an interview with French television that he was certain he would work elsewhere.
Mourinho was appointed by United in May 2016 and led the club to the Europa League title last season.
His side are vying with neighbours Manchester City for top spot in the Premier League this term, but 54-year-old Mourinho is keeping his future options open.
He told TF1’s Telefoot programme: “The only thing I can say is that I’m still a coach with worries, with ambitions, and with the desire to do new things.
“And I don’t believe... no, I’m sure that I won’t end my career here.”
Asked if that meant at Manchester United, Mourinho said: “Yes.”
Mourinho was responding to the question of whether he might one day be tempted to join Paris St Germain.
The club that broke the world transfer record by paying €222 million to bring in Neymar from Barcelona in the summer have previously been linked with the Portuguese.
And Mourinho explained his son has taken the French capital giants to his heart.
“The other day, my son who lives in London went to Paris and not to Manchester to watch the match,” Mourinho said.
Asked why his son chose that option, Mourinho said: “Because at the moment in Paris there is something special. Magic, quality, youth, it’s fantastic.”
Former translator Mourinho, who showed his multilingual skills by conducting the interview in French, has previously had high-profile spells in charge of Porto, Chelsea, Inter Milan and Real Madrid.

 

[Insignificance]

We may not have to suffer his tactics for much longer the whore...

Jose Mourinho has ruled out spending the rest of his career at Manchester United.
The Red Devils manager said in an interview with French television that he was certain he would work elsewhere.
Mourinho was appointed by United in May 2016 and led the club to the Europa League title last season.
His side are vying with neighbours Manchester City for top spot in the Premier League this term, but 54-year-old Mourinho is keeping his future options open.
He told TF1’s Telefoot programme: “The only thing I can say is that I’m still a coach with worries, with ambitions, and with the desire to do new things.
“And I don’t believe... no, I’m sure that I won’t end my career here.”
Asked if that meant at Manchester United, Mourinho said: “Yes.”
Mourinho was responding to the question of whether he might one day be tempted to join Paris St Germain.
The club that broke the world transfer record by paying €222 million to bring in Neymar from Barcelona in the summer have previously been linked with the Portuguese.
And Mourinho explained his son has taken the French capital giants to his heart.
“The other day, my son who lives in London went to Paris and not to Manchester to watch the match,” Mourinho said.
Asked why his son chose that option, Mourinho said: “Because at the moment in Paris there is something special. Magic, quality, youth, it’s fantastic.”
Former translator Mourinho, who showed his multilingual skills by conducting the interview in French, has previously had high-profile spells in charge of Porto, Chelsea, Inter Milan and Real Madrid.

Then they should bring in Pulis.... Same style, people wouldn't notice any change at all.

 

[keniget]

Shocked that Mourinho doesn't want to stick around and compete with City. Much better to go to PSG where something 'special' is happening to the FFP rules.

 

[gkmacca]

“Because at the moment in Paris there is something special. Magic, quality, youth, it’s fantastic.”

He really is a piece of work. 'Magic, quality, youth'. Yep, we all know how much you care about youth. And I think you somehow forgot to add: obscene amounts of money. He really craves challenges, that man.

 

[King Binny]

 

[manwithnoname]

He really is a piece of work. 'Magic, quality, youth'. Yep, we all know how much you care about youth. And I think you somehow forgot to add: obscene amounts of money. He really craves challenges, that man.

He's almost as bad as Guardiola

 

[RedStar]

I'd rather watch one of Guardiolas teams anyday over the shite that Mourinho serves up

 

[ibromurph]

First of all, let me state, we are not competing on a level playing field with either Manchester team and so I find the constant gushing over their managers sickening. I'd like to see what Klopp can do with the best/richest team in Spain (Real/Barca), the best team in Germany (Bayern), the best team in Portugal (Porto), the best team in Italy (Inter; whilst Juve were going through the ref scandal), the richest teams in England (Chelsea, United, City). I think with all the money those teams had, and the lack of competition in the league (at the respective times), he'd have won a few more trophies.

That said, when comparing Maureen to Guardiola, if I'm a fan, it's a no brainer. Both win trophies, but only one wins them in style (by trying to outplay rivals; Mourinho does show ambition against lower teams, let's not pretend it's all shite). Guardiola for all the money he spends, tries to win games of football by having his teams be the better football team. His teams look to take the initiative.

Mourinho, against rivals, looks first to not lose and then nick something on the break. His style of play (with the obscene amount of money spent) will win him trophies no doubt, but I'd prefer Guardiola as my manager (if we had an open chequebook), as under Pep, attacking players seem to really improve with his tutelage (even Sterling).

If you have a squad worth over half a billion, you really shouldn't be getting credit for Tony Pullis like tactics where you show no ambition to score. You combine Liverpool and United teams and you'd have most pundits/United fans saying that only 2 or 3 Pool players would get in their team. So if they are THAT much better in multiple positions, don't tell me a point away at Anfield is a good result, when you barely have a shot on goal. It's either we are a lot better than people give us credit for, our manager is doing a better job with worse players than theirs is, or it's actually a poor result for them. You can't have your cake and eat it.

 

[gkmacca]

I hate the cunt too, but all to often he gets what he wants.

That's what they used to say about Harvey Weinstein, too.

 

[manwithnoname]

First of all, let me state, we are not competing on a level playing field with either Manchester team and so I find the constant gushing over their managers sickening. I'd like to see what Klopp can do with the best/richest team in Spain (Real/Barca), the best team in Germany (Bayern), the best team in Portugal (Porto), the best team in Italy (Inter; whilst Juve were going through the ref scandal), the richest teams in England (Chelsea, United, City). I think with all the money those teams had, and the lack of competition in the league (at the respective times), he'd have won a few more trophies.

That said, when comparing Maureen to Guardiola, if I'm a fan, it's a no brainer. Both win trophies, but only one wins them in style (by trying to outplay rivals; Mourinho does show ambition against lower teams, let's not pretend it's all shite). Guardiola for all the money he spends, tries to win games of football by having his teams be the better football team. His teams look to take the initiative.

Mourinho, against rivals, looks first to not lose and then nick something on the break. His style of play (with the obscene amount of money spent) will win him trophies no doubt, but I'd prefer Guardiola as my manager (if we had an open chequebook), as under Pep, attacking players seem to really improve with his tutelage (even Sterling).

If you have a squad worth over half a billion, you really shouldn't be getting credit for Tony Pullis like tactics where you show no ambition to score. You combine Liverpool and United teams and you'd have most pundits/United fans saying that only 2 or 3 Pool players would get in their team. So if they are THAT much better in multiple positions, don't tell me a point away at Anfield is a good result, when you barely have a shot on goal. It's either we are a lot better than people give us credit for, our manager is doing a better job with worse players than theirs is, or it's actually a poor result for them. You can't have your cake and eat it.

I hate them both, always have. I obviously hate Mourinho more, but they're both fucking cunts.

 

[RedStar]

I hate them both, always have. I obviously hate Mourinho more, but they're both fucking cunts.

If you hate Mourinho more, why did you say he's nearly as bad as Guardiola? Genuine question rather than a wind up

 

[manwithnoname]

If you hate Mourinho more, why did you say he's nearly as bad as Guardiola? Genuine question rather than a wind up

Mourinho has at least worked under some restricted conditions - comparatively - and beaten bigger, richer clubs to trophies.

Guardiola has worked at Barcelona, then went to Bayern, the richest and biggest club in possibly the least competitive league in Europe, then went to the richest club in the UK, and spent over £400m at City.

He's won nothing that nobody else would be expected to win. Any cunt can win a title at Man City or Bayern.

 

[keniget]

Mourinho has at least worked under some restricted conditions - comparatively - and beaten bigger, richer clubs to trophies.

Guardiola has worked at Barcelona, then went to Bayern, the richest and biggest club in possibly the least competitive league in Europe, then went to the richest club in the UK, and spent over £400m at City.

He's won nothing that nobody else would be expected to win. Any cunt can win a title at Man City or Bayern.

He started off at Barca B which is in the lower division and took over the first team at a critical transitional period and managed to elevate them whilst bringing through some of the youth players.

He is rightly applauded for what he did there.

I've not been a fan since he left though and think he's been found wanting in some respects as a manager.

 

[mark1975]

Quite. I hate Mourinho, but this notion that his game is all about money is flawed. I mean, you only have to look at his tactics on Saturday. As I said earlier, his teams will batter almost everyone at home and then he'll take a tight result in all of the away games against the top 6. It's methodical and boring, but it wins trophies. It's ok saying it's a disgrace having spent that money, to then play it tight, but when you're battering 80% of the Premiership for the rest of the season, who would really care? The alternative is just going for it constantly, getting it wrong and then dropping the points that are the difference between winning titles and trophies, as we've found out in tricky games against lesser opposition and the more tactically demanding European games. There has to be a balance.

His game now is primarily dependent on a short term stint at a rich club, but even if you look at the state of United going into the Summer, he bought exactly what they needed with minimal fuss. That's more than can be said of us.

 

[RedStar]

Mourinho has at least worked under some restricted conditions - comparatively - and beaten bigger, richer clubs to trophies.

Guardiola has worked at Barcelona, then went to Bayern, the richest and biggest club in possibly the least competitive league in Europe, then went to the richest club in the UK, and spent over £400m at City.

He's won nothing that nobody else would be expected to win. Any cunt can win a title at Man City or Bayern.

If I recall correctly didn't Mourinho build the most expensive team in the history of football while at Madrid and still get regularly pumped by Guardiolas Barca? Anyway I don't think there's any manager I've less time for them Mourinho, Guardiola included, I just think he's a complete prick.

 

[gkmacca]

 

[Woland]