Liverpool v Man Utd Match Thread
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When Siggurdson is sold for 40 mill pounds and Lindeløf 30 I guess you came to the point when money bought you everything and football is finnished. The next stars we just have to find and develop ourself. We are pretty much helthy finacially and actually we are in a pretty good mental state of mind at the moment too. Next investments are not about Arabic money.
Today it was decent and good subs. It is difficult when we play well and dominate. Any change can ruin the rythm....
My friend. You talk shite
Oh right that's confusing to me because we have won one match in 8 games, are out of the Carling cup, yet to win in Europe, 9 points off the top of the premier league table, don't have a DM or a decent CB or a Striker and it's only October.
By all means enlighten me. Give me examples.
I can't think of any. At all.
Sub comes on. Impacts the result. Changes the game. Anything.
I really can't.
Yeah, Solanke really got a chance to impact the game with those 3 minutes (+ stoppage time) of playing time.
When we beat Everton and Mané scored in the last minute thanks to Sturridge.
That's one. 3 subs a week, over what? 200 games?
Any more?
I could be really wrong I just don't see it.
Only one I could come up with.
Not selling Sturridge in the summer was almost as bad as not getting another centre half. The lad's finished and it's painful to watch him at times because he has no pace , no strength , can't pass and just doesn't look threatening at all.
That can't be right. We only used 35 subs last season?
Klopp’s record for using substitutes for both Dortmund and Liverpool.
Our conversion rate...
What the fuck is 'xG'?
Expected Goals
'Expected goals' (xG): What is it, and how does it show Man City should win the Premier League this season?
[article]What are “expected goals” (xG)?
To work out a team's “expected goals” (xG) for a match, every shot must be analysed and given an "Expected goal value" (EGV).
EGV is the probability that any given shot will end up as a goal.
As Patrick Lucey, director of data science at STATS, explains, EGV is based on a number of factors, such as where the shot was taken from, the proximity of defenders, the nature of the attack (i.e a direct free-kick or a penalty). The EGV of a shot assumes it is being taken by someone of average ability in the league, so it expects for instance that a shot from 10 yards out plum in front of goal with no defenders nearby has a high chance of ending up as a goal.
From an analysis of every shot's EGV in a match, an "expected goals" (xG) figure can be placed on each team from that match. If a team has a higher xG figure than actual goals scored, it will broadly be because of wasteful finishing or good goalkeeping, or both. Likewise if a team is scoring more than its xG then it could be down to moments of individual brilliance from an attacker or say a goalkeeping error.
Why is xG useful?
xG's value is that it gives an indication of whether a team's results are based on sustainable factors like the consistent creation or denial of chances, or whether it is down to less sustainable factors like freakishly high chance conversion or sensational goalkeeping.
It also gives a far more reliable picture as to us the results of individual matches reflected the pattern of play. Take Germany's 7-1 win against Brazil in the 2014 World Cup for instance, in which Brazil actually had more shots and possession, but were way down on xG compared to their opponents.
xG can be thought of as effectively evaluating "chances", whereas "shots on goal" does not discriminate between a 35-yard sighter and a missed open goal from close range.
By analysing every shot from last season and the season before, the STATS team have been able to identify a number of patterns, which we can use to inform how this season might pan out. [/article]
Hmm, whilst it's still subjective, I hate the shots on goal stat & at least it (in theory at least) seems a more accurate barometer than that.
This is kinda why I hate football nowadays.
Agreed,most probably the report was done half way thru that season.
Liverpool Football Club
Premier League Most Substituted Players 2016-2017
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{td=@x20}Roberto Firmino{/td}
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{td=@x20}James Milner{/td}
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{td=@x20}Emre Can{/td}
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{td=@x20}Lucas Leiva{/td}
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{td=@x20}Dejan Lovren{/td}
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You complain and moan worse and worse as weeks go by. And you talk shite.... tons of. Period.
I guess I have to relate to today only and as we went along and controlled the game it is hard to make changes. How will a sub settle to the pace of the game? I think it was right to sub Salah when he did, but only as you had an alternative that could keep the pace on the right on the bench. There will never be any guanrantee that a sub change the game. If he is that good he should start. But Ox made a good impact today. Also Coutinho runned tired and it was a decent change there. So no reason to complain about subs today.
Tooccritical of someone whos clearly super tqlented nut struggles to work out where the goal is?
Without Mane, we will struggle for goals if were reliant on Bobby F and Salah, now is exactly the time to be critical and worry where the goals will come from.
You mean as our poor squad and lack of balance is further found out as we slide down the table out of contention and out of cups with 1 in 8 wins?
Yeah that.
Your happy clappy nonsense only worked in pre-season before we started to play football and mine and every other sensible rational posters fears began to be lived out in reality.
By all means keep up your nonsense. It's funny in a tragic childish kind of way.
I thought we played quite well. I feared they would stuff us so was relieved we didn't get beat. We actually controlled the game, I liked that we sat back and passed it around a bit...and didnt get sucker punched. I thought Chamberlin looked decent when he came on, which was a bonus... Although id had 2 bottles of wine by that point, so what do I know. Not bad I'd say. I'd fucking kill to swap Henderson for Alonso!
Yeah.... I’m not concerned enough to get into a whinging festival....
We didn’t beat em.... that’s disappointing.... but we were definitely the stronger side on the pitch and apparently they are bang in form and averageing 3 goals a game.
Salah shudda buried his chance...
Maybe I’m just being pleased we didn’t lose but by the same token apart from 70 minutes against City away we’ve been the best team on the pitch every time.
We didn’t beat em.... that’s disappointing.... but we were definitely the stronger side on the pitch and apparently they are bang in form and averageing 3 goals a game.
Salah shudda buried his chance...
Maybe I’m just being pleased we didn’t lose but by the same token apart from 70 minutes against City away we’ve been the best team on the pitch every time.
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