See, I told you so. Never in doubt....
LFC v QPR (Away) 18th October 2014 Match Thread
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See, I told you so. Never in doubt....
There is nothing more enjoyable than a win produced from a substandard performance.
Really, that makes your day better, that we scored a winner? I'm surprised at you fark.
Not me. I couldn't have been more nonplussed that the 3rd goal went in. What's the point in celebrating that shite? The whole thing was a fucking embarrassment. I'm not gonna let some pathetic 3rd goal that we didn't deserve cloud my judgement on that wank.
I wasn't nonplussed, I just thought it was funny that we got a winner despite playing like pure dogshit.
Can't celebrate that excuse for football though, it was just shit, only lallana, Henderson, sterling & Coutinho come away with any credit, & sterling was way off form for most of it (of course when he was on form he made the difference) & Coutinho wasn't just a positive influence either.
Can't celebrate that excuse for football though, it was just shit, only lallana, Henderson, sterling & Coutinho come away with any credit, & sterling was way off form for most of it (of course when he was on form he made the difference) & Coutinho wasn't just a positive influence either.
I was happy we got the winner because we simply can't afford to keep dropping points if we're going to salvage something from this season, but I wasn't exactly celebrating. It was a depressing performance.
I still think too many people are taking false comfort from the league table. No way our rivals will carry on at this level, so we need to get moving quickly. Otherwise we'll do well to finish top 6 let alone top 4.
I still think too many people are taking false comfort from the league table. No way our rivals will carry on at this level, so we need to get moving quickly. Otherwise we'll do well to finish top 6 let alone top 4.
Laughed out loud when we scored the winner, and told the missus what a stupid game I just watched. It was an embarrassing performance, no doubt, but I won't hide the fact that I was relieved and glad we came away with 3 points. When we're playing shit, the only worse thing is to play like that and drop all 3 points because then it's utter misery.
Being silly jammy cunts gave us a chance to stay close to the top pack - we need that so that the good performances, when they return, won't be in vain because we'd gone ahead and dug ourselves into a deep enough hole earlier in the season. Not something to be proud of obviously, but on days like this one, I'd rather be lucky and stay in the race, than righteous and fall away.
Being silly jammy cunts gave us a chance to stay close to the top pack - we need that so that the good performances, when they return, won't be in vain because we'd gone ahead and dug ourselves into a deep enough hole earlier in the season. Not something to be proud of obviously, but on days like this one, I'd rather be lucky and stay in the race, than righteous and fall away.
They'll rightly be saying the same about us, I do agree though. The next few weeks are huge, we have winnable games up until the Chelsea game, whereas United have City and Chelsea, as well as a trip to the Hawthorns, we really need to pull ahead of them.
Three points is three points. I don't care about how we get them as long as we get them and yes I was delighted. The post-mortems about the performance are valid but at least we got something from the game.
Football is not a product, despite what people keep saying, it's a sport. Long may it remain a sport when you see the craziness of the last ten minutes.
Football is not a product, despite what people keep saying, it's a sport. Long may it remain a sport when you see the craziness of the last ten minutes.
Give a fuck about what Utd do.
As long as that craziness only involves good things happening for us.
I want them out of the picture asap so we can focus on getting fourth.
I'm definitely worried about Utd. I wasn't before but I've seen enough of their attack now to know that they'll finish above us if we don't sort ourselves out pretty soon. We haven't got a Di Maria to pull us out of trouble if our defence keeps failing us: we simply have to be a smoother all round unit than they are, and at the moment we clearly aren't.
I really don't understand that mate. Presumably you watch games through the eyes of a player or coach first and supporter second? I'm not making a superfan point but surely a supporter would celebrate a winning goal instinctively? We all want great, sexy football and stout defending but I'll take the win first and the rest can follow. Who cares now how gash we were in the first half in Istanbul or the first half of the 06 Cup Final or the first 80 minutes of the 01 Cup Final? We won.
Many posters are not very interested in the result. What concerns them is the manner in which it is achieved. A win is only worthwhile if we have overwhelmed the opposition with superb football. Needless to say, this rarely happens! I recall one poster - it may not have been on this forum - who alleged on one occasion that our winning goal did not count because it was scored from a corner. Only goals from open play are worth anything. 😀
Can't speak for Ryan but in my case in situations like yesterday's winner I'm just so seething with rage at what's gone before that it's literally impossible to switch to joyous celebration so quickly. It really felt pretty hollow, too, tbh. There wasn't much positive to take from the game except the 3 points, and that's hard to get excited about.
It doesn't fill me with confidence or change my opinion on the state of our team, but if I had endured that shit performance and we didn't get a win, it'd be worse. Like, 2 or 3 worse, mathematically.
My wife was happy with the result, given we spent the day together afterward and I deprived myself of sleep to watch it. I've tried to be better about such things, you know, think about all the joy in life that there is, that I may actually directly contribute to, rather than passively watch because my dad is good at brainwashing. It doesn't always work though. Sometimes it just takes a little thing for me to tip me over into miserable sod mode, where I start thinking about work on a Sunday, and then, inevitably the whole doomed state of man. Football is a damned effective little thing.
We aren't good anymore, and we weren't good for very long. I try to remind myself of that reality before each game starts, but it doesn't change what I want to see.
Yeah, I get the point peggy, but I just couldn’t be enthused by it.
Might have been something to do with it being 1.30am on a Monday morning when I was watching it, but even if it had have been 8pm on a Friday night I’d still have been pretty fucking furious with the slop being dished up.
Were were fucking shite, and I hated watching it. I didn’t not celebrate out of a purposeful stance, I just had no actual happiness to celebrate. I hate watching fucking shite football, regardless of who’s serving it up. So QPR scored some goals for us that we didn’t deserve? I’m not getting out of my chair for that.
What the fuck are aesthetes doing on football forums?
Oh look how much more world weary and discerning I am than the average savage...
We won, that is ALL that matters. Even better we won a game we didn't deserve to. Sweet.
Oh look how much more world weary and discerning I am than the average savage...
We won, that is ALL that matters. Even better we won a game we didn't deserve to. Sweet.
Fair do's mate. No disputing how woeful we were and how unjust the result was.
I'm actually a little intrigued by Ryan's stance.
To be honest, I love watching good football and I hate wasting time watching rubbish. If a game is pathetic then I just flick it - unless we're playing.
This is where my point is; how many here watch us play, primarily, for the football being played? I don't.
When I can I'll watch good matches simply because I like good football. When I watch Liverpool it's because I want to see us win. Good football is what I'm desperate to see us provide but, first and foremost, it's victory.
I'm not suggesting there's a right or wrong approach - I'm curious as to how many watch us for football and who watches us focused on victory?
To be honest, I love watching good football and I hate wasting time watching rubbish. If a game is pathetic then I just flick it - unless we're playing.
This is where my point is; how many here watch us play, primarily, for the football being played? I don't.
When I can I'll watch good matches simply because I like good football. When I watch Liverpool it's because I want to see us win. Good football is what I'm desperate to see us provide but, first and foremost, it's victory.
I'm not suggesting there's a right or wrong approach - I'm curious as to how many watch us for football and who watches us focused on victory?
I don't know how many of you seem to be able - or even want - to view single matches in isolation. To say that winning a match is all that matters is clearly untrue: in terms of the ultimate goal of seeing the team do well and flourish, a good performance is often more important than a single win.
So for me being completely dissatisfied at then end of a game like this is still a function of tribal support for the team, just as much as as being angry at a defeat. So yes, I watch us to win, and not much else. But 'winning' in football is rarely about a single match, so I find it hard, and pointless, not to see results in a wider context.
So for me being completely dissatisfied at then end of a game like this is still a function of tribal support for the team, just as much as as being angry at a defeat. So yes, I watch us to win, and not much else. But 'winning' in football is rarely about a single match, so I find it hard, and pointless, not to see results in a wider context.
It's not that black and white mate. I'm hardly ambivalent about winning matches am I?
You have to want your team to win and of course it's better if we do, I just can't get worked up about it cos we managed to fluke our way to 3 points.
Take Sunday's game - I'm not stubbornly sitting there refusing to celebrate or anything. We were just so fucking shit that I got no real happiness out of a handful of own goals being scored for us. I don't care any less than the average supporter, nor do I prioritise aesthetics over victories necessarily, I just thought we were fucking shit and wasn't about to be hoodwinked by some undeserved goals.
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