Kuyt to Inter TODAY?

[TheBunnyman]

If it's true, I tend to agree with Vlad and Ross - this would mean that Mascherano was staying. And while I'd rather not lose Kuyt, we do need to raise some money to buy a second striker, a CM and a LB. It would only make sense to me if Inter were willing to pay a LOT for him though - say £15m. In that circumstance, this could prove a good deal.

Although it's probably hot air.

 

[Woland]

I had a weird dream last night that I found Barry Venison's smartphone and was using it to track down the crack den he'd been hanging out at. Really.

 

[spider-Neil]

swap deal with eto'o, then I can have a new favorite player 😉

 

[Oncy]

If we sell Kuyt I'll sulk my fucking socks off.
10 to 15 goals and a bunch of assists every year from RM/RW/RWF why fucking sell? That's more than fucking anyone?
*wails*

 

[the_khl]

You could somehow argue that Kuyt was Rafa's invention and as such it would make sense if he chose to follow his mentor to Inter. If the prize is right and all that's that then but I'm not that fond of the prospect of loosing Kuyt to be honest.

In a straight swap with Milito however I'd reconsider.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=KHL link=topic=41517.msg1158054#msg1158054 date=1282300023]
You could somehow argue that Kuyt was Rafa's invention and as such it would make sense if he chose to follow his mentor to Inter. If the prize is right and all that's that then but I'm not that fond of the prospect of loosing Kuyt to be honest.

In a straight swap with Milito however I'd reconsider.
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rather have eto'o, a direct replace for torres if (*cough* when! *cough*) torres gets injuried

 

[the_khl]

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[quote author=KHL link=topic=41517.msg1158054#msg1158054 date=1282300023]
You could somehow argue that Kuyt was Rafa's invention and as such it would make sense if he chose to follow his mentor to Inter. If the prize is right and all that's that then but I'm not that fond of the prospect of loosing Kuyt to be honest.

In a straight swap with Milito however I'd reconsider.
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rather have eto'o, a direct replace for torres if (*cough* when! *cough*) torres gets injuried
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Milito would be more of a direct replacement for Torres. You could argue that Eto'o would be a stright replacement for Kuyt however.

Isn't Eto'o more of a forward/winger type in a 4-3-3 formation compared to a lone target player?

 

[spider-Neil]

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You could somehow argue that Kuyt was Rafa's invention and as such it would make sense if he chose to follow his mentor to Inter. If the prize is right and all that's that then but I'm not that fond of the prospect of loosing Kuyt to be honest.

In a straight swap with Milito however I'd reconsider.
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rather have eto'o, a direct replace for torres if (*cough* when! *cough*) torres gets injuried
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Milito would be more of a direct replacement for Torres. You could argue that Eto'o would be a stright replacement for Kuyt however.

Isn't Eto'o more of a forward/winger type in a 4-3-3 formation compared to a lone target player?
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that's how he plays for inter but for barca he was the lone striker

 

[Rosco]

I thought Barca owned him ?

 

[Woland]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41517.msg1158061#msg1158061 date=1282300423]


that's how he plays for inter but for barca he was the loan striker
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That was to his credit...

 

[spider-Neil]

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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41517.msg1158061#msg1158061 date=1282300423]


that's how he plays for inter but for barca he was the loan striker
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That was to his credit...
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😉

 

[Farkmaster]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41517.msg1157973#msg1157973 date=1282294784]
Uh-oh! Dirk, Mascherano and Aquilani out and Cole, Jovanovic and Poulsen in is starting to look like another horrible summer.
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No, no, that couldn't be so, because everyone told me I was being ridiculously pessimistic for saying we should probably not have a parade for signing a decent player on a free, having seen us do absolutely nothing with fuck all money, leaving massive questions at CM, LB and Striker, which coincidentally were the positions which needed addressing on day 1.

Hodgson still has it all to do. Given how the transfer season has gone, there could well be a flurry of activity at the end. Let's hope we figure in that flurry, and do well.

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=41517.msg1158075#msg1158075 date=1282301320]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41517.msg1157973#msg1157973 date=1282294784]
Uh-oh! Dirk, Mascherano and Aquilani out and Cole, Jovanovic and Poulsen in is starting to look like another horrible summer.
[/quote]

No, no, that couldn't be so, because everyone told me I was being ridiculously pessimistic for saying we should probably not have a parade for signing a decent player on a free, having seen us do absolutely nothing with fuck all money, leaving massive questions at CM, LB and Striker, which coincidentally were the positions which needed addressing on day 1.

Hodgson still has it all to do. Given how the transfer season has gone, there could well be a flurry of activity at the end. Let's hope we figure in that flurry, and do well.
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Not going to piss on your parade here Farky but truth to be told neither of those three players has gone yet hence their potential fee hasn't been reinvested.

It's kind of logical.

 

[Farkmaster]

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[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=41517.msg1158075#msg1158075 date=1282301320]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41517.msg1157973#msg1157973 date=1282294784]
Uh-oh! Dirk, Mascherano and Aquilani out and Cole, Jovanovic and Poulsen in is starting to look like another horrible summer.
[/quote]

No, no, that couldn't be so, because everyone told me I was being ridiculously pessimistic for saying we should probably not have a parade for signing a decent player on a free, having seen us do absolutely nothing with fuck all money, leaving massive questions at CM, LB and Striker, which coincidentally were the positions which needed addressing on day 1.

Hodgson still has it all to do. Given how the transfer season has gone, there could well be a flurry of activity at the end. Let's hope we figure in that flurry, and do well.
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Not going to piss on your parade here Farky but truth to be told neither of those three players has gone yet hence their potential fee hasn't been reinvested.

It's kind of logical.
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That was precisely the point I made over and over again. There was a general feeling of positivity, when we hadn't made significant sales, which would eventually amount to the vast majority of our spending over the summer on replacements.

Also, you are comfortable with Poulsen being a replacement for Mascherano and that being that. I wasn't from day one, but I'm certainly not comfortable with that if we also get rid of Aquilani. Our midfield was poor last year, regardless of how we juggled the people. So it might actually be for the best for us to get rid of Mascherano, but only if we replace him with the right player. For me that isn't Poulsen. No one is shocked that you think it is.

 

[the_khl]

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[quote author=KHL link=topic=41517.msg1158076#msg1158076 date=1282301440]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=41517.msg1158075#msg1158075 date=1282301320]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41517.msg1157973#msg1157973 date=1282294784]
Uh-oh! Dirk, Mascherano and Aquilani out and Cole, Jovanovic and Poulsen in is starting to look like another horrible summer.
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No, no, that couldn't be so, because everyone told me I was being ridiculously pessimistic for saying we should probably not have a parade for signing a decent player on a free, having seen us do absolutely nothing with fuck all money, leaving massive questions at CM, LB and Striker, which coincidentally were the positions which needed addressing on day 1.

Hodgson still has it all to do. Given how the transfer season has gone, there could well be a flurry of activity at the end. Let's hope we figure in that flurry, and do well.
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Not going to piss on your parade here Farky but truth to be told neither of those three players has gone yet hence their potential fee hasn't been reinvested.

It's kind of logical.
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That was precisely the point I made over and over again. There was a general feeling of positivity, when we hadn't made significant sales, which would eventually amount to the vast majority of our spending over the summer on replacements.

Also, you are comfortable with Poulsen being a replacement for Mascherano and that being that. I wasn't from day one, but I'm certainly not comfortable with that if we also get rid of Aquilani. Our midfield was poor last year, regardless of how we juggled the people. So it might actually be for the best for us to get rid of Mascherano, but only if we replace him with the right player. For me that isn't Poulsen. No one is shocked that you think it is.
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If we're seeing the proposed exodus it's logical that we'll buy a new midfielder. Should Masher be the only one leaving and Aquilani was deemed fit and good enough I wouldn't mind us spunk the money from Masher on a LB and Striker instead. Are both leaving we will of course by a new midfielder as three is simply not sufficient.

Same goes with Kuyt and/or Babel. Their money will be re-invested in like-for-like players as well as the Aqua-money.

 

[the_khl]

Just for the record:

Masher + Gerrard > Poulsen + Gerrard

However the money received on the Masher sale could be spend wisely on a potential World Class LB and a back-up striker and then the equation is different as I don't believe Poulsen is going to weaken us as much as a lot of posters on here fear. He's got different qualities to Masher and that can come in handy. Better passer of the ball for one and better in the air.

Masher + Gerrard < Poulsen + Gerrard + New LB + New Striker

 

[Farkmaster]

Mascherano's fee won't be able to purchase a world class lb and a back-up striker any better than what we've already got, especially when you consider their wages.

 

[El Pistolero]

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/40369.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

Dirk Kuyt's agent has confirmed that the Liverpool forward has the chance of moving to Treble-winning Inter Milan, although his client is yet to make any final decision over whether to leave Anfield.
Kuyt is a target for Inter coach Rafa Benitez, who brought the Dutchman to Anfield from Feyenoord for a fee of £9 million in August 2006 and relied heavily upon the hard-working forward.
Inter have stepped up their interest in Kuyt after seeing a move for Genoa's Giuseppe Sculli stall and the Netherlands international was conspicuous by his absence in Liverpool's Europa League tie against Trabzonspor on Thursday night.

Though Kuyt's agent insists the player is yet to make a decision over his future, it appears a move to Serie A is a distinct possibility for the 30-year-old.

"Dirk is being professional," Rob Jansen told Voetbal International. "Yes, there is real interest from Inter, but Dirk has not decided yet whether he does want to leave Liverpool. He must think carefully before leaving.

"This is also a complicated transfer. Dirk Kuyt is a Liverpool player. He has an ongoing contract and was recently in the World Cup final. There will be a transfer fee involved. The deal cannot simply go ahead.

"Regardless of the choice Dirk must first consider himself. He can move to Inter or just stay at Liverpool. This is a good position to be in. It is also an option that a player from Inter will be involved in the deal with Kuyt."

 

[dee]

From Sky Sports:

Dirk Kuyt's agent has revealed that there is 'concrete interest' from Inter Milan in the Liverpool player, although he has yet to decide whether he would be keen on a reunion with Rafa Benitez.

Benitez left Anfield to take charge at the Giuseppe Meazza over the summer and has been linked with moves for several of his former men, including Kuyt.

The Holland international has seen his stock rise over the past few years and he became a key figure under Benitez after joining the Reds from Feyenoord in 2006.

Kuyt is now considering a switch to Inter, according to his representative Rob Jansen, although it could be difficult to strike a deal even if he wants to go.

"Yes, there is concrete interest from Inter, but Dirk has not yet decided if he wants to leave Liverpool," Jansen told Voetbal International.

"This is also a complicated transfer. Dirk Kuyt is a key player for Liverpool, he has an ongoing contract and was recently in the World Cup final.

"He may move to Inter or just stay at Liverpool. There is also the possibility that a player from Inter could be included in the deal with Dirk Kuyt."

Kuyt was left out of Roy Hodgson's squad for the Europa League clash against Trabzonspor on Thursday night.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe?]

Fuck it, I like Maxi at RW anyway..

Eto'o, Cambiasso, or Chivu would be lovely.. (Sneijder would of course be great but i'm a realist so i'll just punt for Eto'o...)

 

[dee]

This is the actual text:

Liverpool en Internazionale onderhandelen op korte termijn verder over een eventuele transfer van Dirk Kuijt. De speler zelf had al een onderhoud met de Italianen.

'Dirk zat daar puur professioneel’', reageert zaakwaarnemer Rob Jansen tegen Voetbal International. 'Ja, er is dus concrete belangstelling van Inter, maar Dirk is er in zijn geest nog niet uit of hij Liverpool wel wil verlaten. Daar moet hij eerst zien uit te komen.'

'Bovendien is dit een gecompliceerde transfer. Dirk Kuijt is basisspeler van Liverpool, heeft een doorlopend contract en stond kort geleden nog in de WK-finale. Daar zal een bepaalde transfersom tegen over moeten staan. De deal kan dus ook gewoon niet doorgaan.'

'Los daarvan is de keuze eerst aan Dirk zelf. Hij kan de stap naar Inter maken of gewoon bij Liverpool blijven. Je mag dat beschouwen als een luxe positie. Het is ook nog een optie dat een speler van Inter in de deal met Dirk Kuijt wordt betrokken', aldus Jansen.

Sounds like "Kuyt was in the WC final - give him a pay rise" to me.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

he's 30? sheesh - give us 5 million + eto'o. that's fair! 😉

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Dee link=topic=41517.msg1158120#msg1158120 date=1282304431]
This is the actual text:

Liverpool en Internazionale onderhandelen op korte termijn verder over een eventuele transfer van Dirk Kuijt. De speler zelf had al een onderhoud met de Italianen.

'Dirk zat daar puur professioneel’', reageert zaakwaarnemer Rob Jansen tegen Voetbal International. 'Ja, er is dus concrete belangstelling van Inter, maar Dirk is er in zijn geest nog niet uit of hij Liverpool wel wil verlaten. Daar moet hij eerst zien uit te komen.'

'Bovendien is dit een gecompliceerde transfer. Dirk Kuijt is basisspeler van Liverpool, heeft een doorlopend contract en stond kort geleden nog in de WK-finale. Daar zal een bepaalde transfersom tegen over moeten staan. De deal kan dus ook gewoon niet doorgaan.'

'Los daarvan is de keuze eerst aan Dirk zelf. Hij kan de stap naar Inter maken of gewoon bij Liverpool blijven. Je mag dat beschouwen als een luxe positie. Het is ook nog een optie dat een speler van Inter in de deal met Dirk Kuijt wordt betrokken', aldus Jansen.

Sounds like "Kuyt was in the WC final - give him a pay rise" to me.
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It's sound more like Kreeeonk Fraviiiiiimnk Kuuuijt Screeeech to me... but then again Dutch has never been my strongest side...

 

[Squiggles]

I don't think we should sell Dirk Kuyt unless they're offering £14M+ and they're quick about it.

 

[kingjulian]

Kuyt was nailed on to be in the starting eleven for every single match. He never got injured or home-sick. In terms of value for money he probably is second only to Pepe.

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=KHL link=topic=41517.msg1158101#msg1158101 date=1282302299]
Just for the record:

Masher + Gerrard > Poulsen + Gerrard

However the money received on the Masher sale could be spend wisely on a potential World Class LB and a back-up striker and then the equation is different as I don't believe Poulsen is going to weaken us as much as a lot of posters on here fear. He's got different qualities to Masher and that can come in handy. Better passer of the ball for one and better in the air.

Masher + Gerrard < Poulsen + Gerrard + New LB + New Striker
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Please please please stop it. Poulsen is as mediocre as anyone at the midfields fighting to crunch a top half finish in the premier league. he is poor. Nothing to talk about. A new left back and a new striker? We neeed to win the midfield battle. Babel, Ngog and even probably even Dalla Valle would score the same amount as Berbatov i.e. But we need to have a good strong and passing midfiled running our games. We dont have that with Christian Poulsen no matter how danish he is....

 

[bkwitche2]

[quote author=singlerider link=topic=41517.msg1157917#msg1157917 date=1282292862]
I don't like the idea of losing Dirk one bit. But if it meant Masch staying . . .
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It also won't make him any happier to be here, this will be a summer by summer occurrence until we sell him and get something for him or wind down his contract and let him walk for free.

 

[singlerider]

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[quote author=singlerider link=topic=41517.msg1157917#msg1157917 date=1282292862]
I don't like the idea of losing Dirk one bit. But if it meant Masch staying . . .
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It also won't make him any happier to be here, this will be a summer by summer occurrence until we sell him and get something for him or wind down his contract and let him walk for free.
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I get what you're saying, but it raises the question of whether his worth to the team as a player outweighs his worth to the team as a commodity.

If buying a new left back and striker is utterly dependent on the Masch money, then I suppose with Poulsen brought in perhaps we are better off selling him for the greater good and all that, but unless we're looking at £25M or so then you have to question whether or not the calibre of players we'll be able to afford will improve the team enough to offset losing him in the first place

 

[TheBunnyman]

It's kind of surprising that the Aquilani thread is so much longer than the Dirk thread, given that Kuyt is a far more important and reliable player for us.

 

[singlerider]

Aquilani leaving is a much more viable prospect than Dirk leaving