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I think he should get round to writing that book on defending that he was on about.
Although he did say he could write it 'in two hours', which rather suggests it would be a fucking shit book, and goes a long way to understanding the problem
Although he did say he could write it 'in two hours', which rather suggests it would be a fucking shit book, and goes a long way to understanding the problem
Not looking past that Awful stat, but How does your defensive coaching correct Gomez individual decision of not attacking the ball or Mignolets shithouse goalkeeping skills?
Stats!
Miing : GK coach, use two hands !!
Gomez : attack the ball don't wait for it to arrive.
Sorry but those were obvious. I don't blame Klopp per se. People seem to ignore the fact we have a complete coaching team who I seriously doubt are not aware of, and work on, the issues. Maybe it's as simple as the quality and intelligence of our players (I'll exempt Gomez as he's very young and still learning) is lacking.
Send him to Celtic, pronto.
I think you missed my point mate. Its quite obvious what the coach tells the players in those situations. But that doesnt help much when you make those kind of individual decisions and mistakes.
He could buy a better keeper or sign defenders.
Gomez was caught ball watching, and better and more experienced players than him have done the same. he's still learning, and he had a lesson last night. Jelly wrists has no such excuse. That was just fucking shite. We need a keeper.
Couldn’t the same be said for all of the defensive errors under the previous manager? It could but of course it won’t be.
Clearly the players aren't taking any notice of Klopp then.
You can try to dance around this any way you like but it always comes back to Klopp.
My worry is that we buy a fantastic keeper and defenders, and we turn them to shit. For all we know, mongolet and his pals at the back could be decent in a system where they're drilled how to defend.
We're a Kevin Keegan team and I don't think that's going to change, so we have to ask ourselves, would we we like to see attacking fast football, and smash a lot of teams, but lose most games where we have to do any defending, finish top 4 and win nothing. Or, would we like to see boring dull 1-0 type football, win the odd smaller cup every few years, and finish top 4. Option one for me.
We're a Kevin Keegan team and I don't think that's going to change, so we have to ask ourselves, would we we like to see attacking fast football, and smash a lot of teams, but lose most games where we have to do any defending, finish top 4 and win nothing. Or, would we like to see boring dull 1-0 type football, win the odd smaller cup every few years, and finish top 4. Option one for me.
I'm not saying all, I'm saying two situatuons from yesterday. Generally we've been good defensively since the Spurs game and have seen improvement.
Which is why those 4-5 minutes in yesterdays game were a smack in the face again.
We sadly lack top quality in some of those situations. A new goalkeeper has to be top of Klopps list now.
Option one for me too however there is no guarantee that Option two would deliver anything except boring football a la Hodgson. I much prefer the rollercoaster ride of Rodgers and Klopp however Rafa in his prime would be even better .. and I still believe Klopp can get us there.
As with any 'project' it isn't going to look like the finished article until it's finished ! If you are repainting your house some rooms are going to look good but the whole house won't until it's finished, of course. So along the way there are going to be issues, which we can all see and it would be naive in the extreme to believe the Liverpool coaching staff don't see them too.
I think the bigger question is, why the fuck is Mignolet still playing for Liverpool??
Yesterday we played well. We controlled first half beautifully and held them at bay when expecting them to come at us full speed. Building a team and a play like that, and do this to even your direct rivals, takes time, patience and a stubborn world class coach.... then we were left down by personal mistakes. That doesn't take too much time to rectify... either you replace or you work further with players. Klopp have given Mignolet the benfit of the doubt. Be has failed so he will be gone. Gomez has a bright future so he will stay.
And for all coconuts on here hung up in details on Lovrens and Mings contracts.... do you really think that matters? It doesn't. If Klopp wants rid of them they are gone. Like Sakho and others. Lenght of contracts are unimportant.
And for all coconuts on here hung up in details on Lovrens and Mings contracts.... do you really think that matters? It doesn't. If Klopp wants rid of them they are gone. Like Sakho and others. Lenght of contracts are unimportant.
Phew. That's me settled. Here's me thinking we'd have to put up with shit individual errors costing us points for a few years. Glad to see that it will be stamped out shortly.
I always find when we are up 2 or more, soon as we concede one then expect us to concede the 2nd immediately. It just seems so expected, I know each was an individual mistake but each time I find the midfield goes missing in these critical times. There seems to be no one in midfield who takes responsibility and wants to calm people and hold on to the ball. Maybe it's rather a simplistic way of looking at it...
So... Klopp is no 1? All his fault?
I don't buy this. Are you saying that individual errors are completely unattributed to coaching? I get that some players just aren't good enough and will repeatedly make mistakes (Gomez has made alot btw), but you reap what you sow. They've all made errors fairly regularly.
No one is saying that, I don't know why you have to wave the CDNW flag every time someone questions something that's fucking obviously wrong.
Rosco peddling the media narrative again, with his pesky facts
There is a stat somewhere that shows our defence actually allow very few attacks to culminate in an on-target chance and another that shows Ming's saves to on-target-attempt ratio is the worse in any league any where any when... the lad is not good enough and it's time he was sold.
Mignolet had made 195 appearances for Liverpool. Klopp has been in charge for 127 of them. He has had ample opportunity to evaluate him. No point in criticising Mignolet. He is what he is. If he is still starting it is because Klopp thinks he is good enough and rewarded him with a new contract. This one's on Klopp.
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