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Kenny - We Must Focus On Bringing The Title Back

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Liverpool FC legend Kenny Dalglish believes the Anfield club must focus on bringing the league title back to Merseyside after a 20-year absence. The 59-year-old believes the Reds have only themselves to blame for the long run of Premier League near misses.

"We've got to get ourselves up to the mark and back to where we should be," Dalglish told BBC Radio Merseyside. "It's hard to believe 1990 was the last championship that we won, but it's not anybody else's fault but our own."

Dalglish continued: "Two years ago I thought 'This is it' and we ran Manchester United really close. We were full of optimism the following season but unfortunately it never happened." The Scot was manager at Liverpool when they last won the old first division title back in 1990, before the creation of the Premier League in 1992.

Everybody has been though a transitional period in their history but it's how we come out of it and how quickly we come out of it. There has been plenty of Cup success at Anfield since then, most notably the 2005 Champions League win under former manager Rafa Benitez, beating AC Milan on penalties in the final in Istanbul. However, the supporters increasingly crave the title, and the former Scotland international thinks the Reds will reward their patience.

"I think we'll be alright, as I've said before, we're in transition," Dalglish continued. "Everybody has been though a transitional period in their history but it's how we come out of it and how quickly we come out of it. I think we'll be out of it sooner rather than later. "I think Roy Hodgson will bring stability in the football sense. But the sale of the club will just kick it on that bit more, so once everything's in place, then we'll be much stronger."
 
"I think we'll be alright, as I've said before, we're in transition," Dalglish continued. "Everybody has been though a transitional period in their history but it's how we come out of it and how quickly we come out of it. I think we'll be out of it sooner rather than later. "I think Roy Hodgson will bring stability in the football sense. But the sale of the club will just kick it on that bit more, so once everything's in place, then we'll be much stronger."

Where does it say we should be challenging NOW

in fact, it says roy will bring stability and it will kick on when we have investment. Whether we kick on with a new manager or hold on to roy is irrelevant.

Can we please stop this random abuse of roy?
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41992.msg1179255#msg1179255 date=1285086548]
They're just words.
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Yeah, they say a lot though

Budgie: "We must focus on gaining a draw at Birmingham"
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41992.msg1179415#msg1179415 date=1285092863]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41992.msg1179255#msg1179255 date=1285086548]
They're just words.
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Yeah, they say a lot though

Budgie: "We must focus on gaining a draw at Birmingham"
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Ha..we can only laugh about it now.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41992.msg1179415#msg1179415 date=1285092863]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41992.msg1179255#msg1179255 date=1285086548]
They're just words.
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Yeah, they say a lot though

Budgie: "We must focus on gaining a draw at Birmingham"
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Brendan, ANYONE could say 'It's time we won the league again', but even coming from Kenny's mouth doesn't make that sentiment any more likely or meaningful. We're further from winning the league now than we have been at any time since 1993. Probably further, in all honesty.
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41992.msg1179415#msg1179415 date=1285092863]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41992.msg1179255#msg1179255 date=1285086548]
They're just words.
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Yeah, they say a lot though

Budgie: "We must focus on gaining a draw at Birmingham"
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Brendan, ANYONE could say 'It's time we won the league again', but even coming from Kenny's mouth doesn't make that sentiment any more likely or meaningful. We're further from winning the league now than we have been at any time since 1993. Probably further, in all honesty.
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Brendan, ANYONE could say 'It's time we won the league again', but even coming from Kenny's mouth doesn't make that sentiment any more likely or meaningful. We're further from winning the league now than we have been at any time since 1993. Probably further, in all honesty.

Since 1993?

That's fucking horse-shit. I think we came closer to winning the league in 2009 than, say, 1994, when we came FUCKING 8TH
 
Thats a joke with football only starting with the advent of the Prem, before anyone starts slagging me off!
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41992.msg1179423#msg1179423 date=1285093305]
Brendan, ANYONE could say 'It's time we won the league again', but even coming from Kenny's mouth doesn't make that sentiment any more likely or meaningful. We're further from winning the league now than we have been at any time since 1993. Probably further, in all honesty.

Since 1993?

That's fucking horse-shit. I think we came closer to winning the league in 2009 than, say, 1994, when we came FUCKING 8TH
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He's saying that RIGHT NOW we're further from winning the title than we've ever been, since 1993. His point has nothing to do with how we finished in 2009.
 
Kenny has the attitude Roy miss. Kenny believes where Roy doubts. Kenny knows what we are capable off where Roy hasnt got a clue. Small differnces making a world between them.
 
Where does it say kenny thinks we can win it this year? With this squad? He doesn't. He wants investment.like roy.

*sighs*
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=41992.msg1179484#msg1179484 date=1285097253]
Kenny has the attitude Roy miss. Kenny believes where Roy doubts. Kenny knows what we are capable off where Roy hasnt got a clue. Small differnces making a world between them.
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Kenny hasn't managed a team in god knows how long. He's not the manager, Roy is. So let's get behind the manager and put to bed any thoughts of "Kenny would have been/is better". We'll never really know.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41992.msg1179492#msg1179492 date=1285097707]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=41992.msg1179484#msg1179484 date=1285097253]
Kenny has the attitude Roy miss. Kenny believes where Roy doubts. Kenny knows what we are capable off where Roy hasnt got a clue. Small differnces making a world between them.
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Kenny hasn't managed a team in god knows how long. He's not the manager, Roy is. So let's get behind the manager and put to bed any thoughts of "Kenny would have been/is better". We'll never really know.
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Bang on Sheiky
 
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41992.msg1179492#msg1179492 date=1285097707]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=41992.msg1179484#msg1179484 date=1285097253]
Kenny has the attitude Roy miss. Kenny believes where Roy doubts. Kenny knows what we are capable off where Roy hasnt got a clue. Small differnces making a world between them.
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Kenny hasn't managed a team in god knows how long. He's not the manager, Roy is. So let's get behind the manager and put to bed any thoughts of "Kenny would have been/is better". We'll never really know.
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Bang on Sheiky
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At the moment there seems to be too many camps. Ones who say "give roy time". Ones who say "kenny would do better no matter what anyone says". Ones who say "Rafa wasn't given enough time". How can there be unity in the ground when the fans are so split over what they wanted?
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41992.msg1179523#msg1179523 date=1285099575]
And don't forget the "Roy WILL fail, no matter what" camp.
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true, but they could be classed as subsections of the rafa one and the kenny one

i think a venn diagram would explain it best




but i'm not making it
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=41992.msg1179484#msg1179484 date=1285097253]
Kenny has the attitude Roy miss. Kenny believes where Roy doubts. Kenny knows what we are capable off where Roy hasnt got a clue. Small differnces making a world between them.
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Just because he says what you wish to hear doesn't make it more valid. The focus should be on getting new owners and then back into a top four.

Small steps and all that.

Aiming for the title right now is fucking hopeless, but hey, grab a stick and beat Roy if you like.
 
Oh, well 'right now' we're closer to getting relegated.

(I don't think we will get relegated, just in case anyone accuses me of being too pessimistic)
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41992.msg1179206#msg1179206 date=1285084509]
a little different from 'I didn't expect to win'

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I think he clarified what he meant, he meant it was a tough game and in the context of how it panned out. Of course Kenny saying all this means that things could be much rosier with him in charge, because that's the way it works, games are won with words.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41992.msg1179698#msg1179698 date=1285137637]
And things like motivation, belief and will to win have nothing to do with words?
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Obviously, because I'm sure everything said in the press is a reflection of what's said behind closed doors. And after all, *everything* Roy has said so far has been negative.
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41992.msg1179698#msg1179698 date=1285137637]
And things like motivation, belief and will to win have nothing to do with words?
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Obviously, because I'm sure everything said in the press is a reflection of what's said behind closed doors. And after all, *everything* Roy has said so far has been negative.
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it's not about what is said to the players, it's about what is said to the fans. if the fans believe, it will reflected in the support and the support drives the players. remember when rafa said 'we WILL beat chelsea' in the CL semi final, imagine if he said 'chelsea are the stronger team and are favorites to go through' (a perfectly valid tactic to take pressure off the team), maybe the support on 'that' night wouldn't have had the belief we would make the final via a superior chelsea.
 
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41992.msg1179699#msg1179699 date=1285137876]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41992.msg1179698#msg1179698 date=1285137637]
And things like motivation, belief and will to win have nothing to do with words?
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Obviously, because I'm sure everything said in the press is a reflection of what's said behind closed doors. And after all, *everything* Roy has said so far has been negative.
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it's not about what is said to the players, it's about what is said to the fans. if the fans believe, it will reflected in the support and the support drives the players. remember when rafa said 'we WILL beat chelsea' in the CL semi final, imagine if he said 'chelsea are the stronger team and are favorites to go through' (a perfectly valid tactic to take pressure off the team), maybe the support on 'that' night wouldn't have had the belief we would make the final via a superior chelsea.
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He's in a no win situation Neil, what are our expectations this season? Have we got any realistic ones other than keeping things steady and qualifying for Europe in (at best) the Champions League? What's he supposed to say? Benitez came in and said he came in to win the title, what did that achieve domestically?

He made one comment about the Birmingham game, he's otherwise made some fairly inspiring comments and made most of the choices the fans wanted to see.
 
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