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[quote author=Binny link=topic=45570.msg1345835#msg1345835 date=1307557690]
[quote author=Markeh link=topic=45570.msg1345833#msg1345833 date=1307556921]
where did those come from Binny? I used the amount of chances created to shut a united supporting mate up on facebook but he reckons ssn have him down for just 39 chances
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http://twitter.com/#!/optajoe
Scroll down to 2nd Jun, Markeh.
and here: http://www.facebook.com/#!/AnfieldIndex (get their source from Opta Stats too)
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excellent, thanks Binny ;D
[quote author=Markeh link=topic=45570.msg1345833#msg1345833 date=1307556921]
where did those come from Binny? I used the amount of chances created to shut a united supporting mate up on facebook but he reckons ssn have him down for just 39 chances
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http://twitter.com/#!/optajoe
Scroll down to 2nd Jun, Markeh.
and here: http://www.facebook.com/#!/AnfieldIndex (get their source from Opta Stats too)
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excellent, thanks Binny ;D
This £13m plus n'gog equals £20m is a bit odd. Couldn't we just say we valued n'gog at £100m so the deal is "worth" £113m? What does it matter?
Gibson is shit and Brown is fit for about a month every season.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45570.msg1345879#msg1345879 date=1307561112]
This £13m plus n'gog equals £20m is a bit odd. Couldn't we just say we valued n'gog at £100m so the deal is "worth" £113m? What does it matter?
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It matters because it's in effect a negotiating ploy, along the lines of "If you were to buy our Player X, or someone of similar standard, you'd expect to pay £Y million, so please take that off the price for your guy and we'll let you have him."
This £13m plus n'gog equals £20m is a bit odd. Couldn't we just say we valued n'gog at £100m so the deal is "worth" £113m? What does it matter?
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It matters because it's in effect a negotiating ploy, along the lines of "If you were to buy our Player X, or someone of similar standard, you'd expect to pay £Y million, so please take that off the price for your guy and we'll let you have him."
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=45570.msg1345904#msg1345904 date=1307563477]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45570.msg1345879#msg1345879 date=1307561112]
This £13m plus n'gog equals £20m is a bit odd. Couldn't we just say we valued n'gog at £100m so the deal is "worth" £113m? What does it matter?
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It matters because it's in effect a negotiating ploy, along the lines of "If you were to buy our Player X, or someone of similar standard, you'd expect to pay £Y million, so please take that off the price for your guy and we'll let you have him."
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We should have said n'gog was worth 100m then. henderson and 80m please fathead
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45570.msg1345879#msg1345879 date=1307561112]
This £13m plus n'gog equals £20m is a bit odd. Couldn't we just say we valued n'gog at £100m so the deal is "worth" £113m? What does it matter?
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It matters because it's in effect a negotiating ploy, along the lines of "If you were to buy our Player X, or someone of similar standard, you'd expect to pay £Y million, so please take that off the price for your guy and we'll let you have him."
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We should have said n'gog was worth 100m then. henderson and 80m please fathead
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45570.msg1345908#msg1345908 date=1307563659]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=45570.msg1345904#msg1345904 date=1307563477]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45570.msg1345879#msg1345879 date=1307561112]
This £13m plus n'gog equals £20m is a bit odd. Couldn't we just say we valued n'gog at £100m so the deal is "worth" £113m? What does it matter?
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It matters because it's in effect a negotiating ploy, along the lines of "If you were to buy our Player X, or someone of similar standard, you'd expect to pay £Y million, so please take that off the price for your guy and we'll let you have him."
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We should have said n'gog was worth 100m then. henderson and 80m please fathead
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Something tells me that might have been seen as a dealbreaker. ;D
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=45570.msg1345904#msg1345904 date=1307563477]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45570.msg1345879#msg1345879 date=1307561112]
This £13m plus n'gog equals £20m is a bit odd. Couldn't we just say we valued n'gog at £100m so the deal is "worth" £113m? What does it matter?
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It matters because it's in effect a negotiating ploy, along the lines of "If you were to buy our Player X, or someone of similar standard, you'd expect to pay £Y million, so please take that off the price for your guy and we'll let you have him."
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We should have said n'gog was worth 100m then. henderson and 80m please fathead
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Something tells me that might have been seen as a dealbreaker. ;D
[quote author=keniget link=topic=45570.msg1345915#msg1345915 date=1307564219]
The views I've gotten outside this forum is that whilst Jones looks the absolute real deal, no one can understand the fuss over Henderson.
Hmmm.
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yep, i get that impression, we've paid over the odds for a distinctly average player whilst united are getting englands future john terry. i cant really remember either player from much of the season, just complilation videos, but they both look pretty good, only time will tell i suppose. it doesnt matter how good a player is though, only how well they fit into a team, just look at torres at chavski
The views I've gotten outside this forum is that whilst Jones looks the absolute real deal, no one can understand the fuss over Henderson.
Hmmm.
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yep, i get that impression, we've paid over the odds for a distinctly average player whilst united are getting englands future john terry. i cant really remember either player from much of the season, just complilation videos, but they both look pretty good, only time will tell i suppose. it doesnt matter how good a player is though, only how well they fit into a team, just look at torres at chavski
hahahahahaa foolish fans
[quote author=keniget link=topic=45570.msg1345915#msg1345915 date=1307564219]
The views I've gotten outside this forum is that whilst Jones looks the absolute real deal, no one can understand the fuss over Henderson.
Hmmm.
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I think thats bizzarre to be honest.
The views I've gotten outside this forum is that whilst Jones looks the absolute real deal, no one can understand the fuss over Henderson.
Hmmm.
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I think thats bizzarre to be honest.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=45570.msg1345922#msg1345922 date=1307564546]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=45570.msg1345915#msg1345915 date=1307564219]
The views I've gotten outside this forum is that whilst Jones looks the absolute real deal, no one can understand the fuss over Henderson.
Hmmm.
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I think thats bizzarre to be honest.
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Aye, fucking FM players. *whistles*
[quote author=keniget link=topic=45570.msg1345915#msg1345915 date=1307564219]
The views I've gotten outside this forum is that whilst Jones looks the absolute real deal, no one can understand the fuss over Henderson.
Hmmm.
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I think thats bizzarre to be honest.
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Aye, fucking FM players. *whistles*
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=45570.msg1345923#msg1345923 date=1307564658]
I think thats bizzarre to be honest.
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Aye, fucking FM players. *whistles*
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Nah, from proper match going fans (not Utd or Liverpool).
I don't really know that much about either player although I do recall Jones putting in one or two decent defensive players (they still lost though).
Time will tell as said.
I think thats bizzarre to be honest.
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Aye, fucking FM players. *whistles*
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Nah, from proper match going fans (not Utd or Liverpool).
I don't really know that much about either player although I do recall Jones putting in one or two decent defensive players (they still lost though).
Time will tell as said.
[quote author=Lewy link=topic=45570.msg1345929#msg1345929 date=1307564831]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45570.msg1345924#msg1345924 date=1307564673]
can anyone get me excited over henderson?
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yep, but it would involve photoshopping his head onto lindsay lohans body
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phwoooooooooar
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45570.msg1345924#msg1345924 date=1307564673]
can anyone get me excited over henderson?
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yep, but it would involve photoshopping his head onto lindsay lohans body
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phwoooooooooar
Yeah, I've not seen enough of either to make a judgement, other than knowing that Jones has been highly rated for a few years now, whereas I'd barely even noticed or heard much about Henderson. According to Youtube he looks like he's got a bit of class and an eye for a first time ball, but there's a world of difference between that and playing everyweek for a top club.
I'm a bit perplexed really but hopefully I'll be more excited when I see what we're getting in the key areas of the team that really need addressing.
I'm a bit perplexed really but hopefully I'll be more excited when I see what we're getting in the key areas of the team that really need addressing.
I've read some awell, and some Sunderland fans claim he's their biggest talent since Todd 30-40 years ago.
Henderson averages a goal a game for England U-21 and has played 70 of Sunderlands last 76 Premier League games, and is 20 years old.
The fuss is that he's a great talent imho.
It would have been interesting to see what the media had written if Utd had signed him.
Henderson averages a goal a game for England U-21 and has played 70 of Sunderlands last 76 Premier League games, and is 20 years old.
The fuss is that he's a great talent imho.
It would have been interesting to see what the media had written if Utd had signed him.
The difference is clear.
Henderson is the best player in the world.
Jones is the worst player in the world.
Henderson is the best player in the world.
Jones is the worst player in the world.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=45570.msg1345938#msg1345938 date=1307565240]
It would have been interesting to see what the media had written if Utd had signed him.
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Fair point that. If the transfers were reversed attitudes in the media probably would be too.
It would have been interesting to see what the media had written if Utd had signed him.
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Fair point that. If the transfers were reversed attitudes in the media probably would be too.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=45570.msg1345943#msg1345943 date=1307565404]
One thing I am excited about is that it's the first time in a longtime where we've got ALOT of young players (say 22 and younger) fighting for a place in the first team.
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its the first time in a while where we could actually argue what our strongest 11 is
One thing I am excited about is that it's the first time in a longtime where we've got ALOT of young players (say 22 and younger) fighting for a place in the first team.
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its the first time in a while where we could actually argue what our strongest 11 is
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