John Barnes

[gkmacca]

There's a lot of damaging stuff still to come out about Sterling - including potentially disastrous stuff commercially about his past treatment of women - and his entourage know it. They're actively trying to create a culture in which the reception and impact of such stories can be managed and defused. This is a process that has been worked on for a long time now. That's not to suggest that the current issues are simply cynical - far from it. But is a context, in which any potential critic or accuser of this individual will now struggle to avoid being dismissed as merely part of some cruel conspiracy, convenient for his management team? Yes, it is. Has it been a complete accident? No, it hasn't. This is not an either/or matter, nor is it, er, black or white.

 

[refugee]

There's a lot of damaging stuff still to come out about Sterling - including potentially disastrous stuff commercially about his past treatment of women - and his entourage know it. They're actively trying to create a culture in which the reception and impact of such stories can be managed and defused. This is a process that has been worked on for a long time now. That's not to suggest that the current issues are simply cynical - far from it. But is a context, in which any potential critic or accuser of this individual will now struggle to avoid being dismissed as merely part of some cruel conspiracy, convenient for his management team? Yes, it is. Has it been a complete accident? No, it hasn't. This is not an either/or matter, nor is it, er, black or white.

Has he been training with Flanagan?

 

[Fabio]

There's a lot of damaging stuff still to come out about Sterling - including potentially disastrous stuff commercially about his past treatment of women - and his entourage know it. They're actively trying to create a culture in which the reception and impact of such stories can be managed and defused. This is a process that has been worked on for a long time now. That's not to suggest that the current issues are simply cynical - far from it. But is a context, in which any potential critic or accuser of this individual will now struggle to avoid being dismissed as merely part of some cruel conspiracy, convenient for his management team? Yes, it is. Has it been a complete accident? No, it hasn't. This is not an either/or matter, nor is it, er, black or white.

And that all sounds fair enough, but if he has done a collymore then I don't think anyone will come to his defence. At the moment the public only has access to certain info, so it does seem he's unfairly treated by the press.

 

[gkmacca]

And that all sounds fair enough, but if he has done a collymore then I don't think anyone will come to his defence. At the moment the public only has access to certain info, so it does seem he's unfairly treated by the press.

But again, that over-simplifies the situation - for example, while there have been some negative stories in the press, these have provoked more supportive stories than any other player in English football has had in recent years. It has given him personal champions - columnists, radio phone-in hosts, pundits, etc - who are showing him more indulgence, more determinedly benign interpretations, than any other current player can now expect. In fact, I very much doubt that any other English player has had so many friendly and sympathetic articles in the past six months. So, yes, there's been a handful (when looked at carefully in a cool hour, it really is no more than that) of much-discussed negative press stories, but these have been dwarfed by the positive stories. So to say that amounts to being 'unfairly treated by the press,' well, though well-intended as an observation, that is a bit of a distortion.

 

[Fabio]

But again, that over-simplifies the situation - for example, while there have been some negative stories in the press, these have provoked more supportive stories than any other player in English football has had in recent years. It has given him personal champions - columnists, radio phone-in hosts, pundits, etc - who are showing him more indulgence, more determinedly benign interpretations, than any other current player can now expect. In fact, I very much doubt that any other English player has had so many friendly and sympathetic articles in the past six months. So, yes, there's been a handful (when looked at carefully in a cool hour, it really is no more than that) of much-discussed negative press stories, but these have been dwarfed by the positive stories. So to say that amounts to being 'unfairly treated by the press,' well, though well-intended as an observation, that is a bit of a distortion.

I think with sterling there's extremes; the press that slag him off and the press that protect him. While some negative stories have come out, not many have come close to alleged spousal abuse. He would lose a lot of favour very very quickly.

I do appreciate it's a complicated matter however.

 

[dantes]

I think with sterling there's extremes; the press that slag him off and the press that protect him. While some negative stories have come out, not many have come close to alleged spousal abuse. He would lose a lot of favour very very quickly.

I do appreciate it's a complicated matter however.

He defended a court case for assaulting his girlfriend a few years ago.

 

[rubans]

He defended a court case for assaulting his girlfriend a few years ago.

Who defended what?
In regards to the actual case, wasn't it dropped due to the gf not being credible according to the prosecutor herself?

 

[dantes]

Who defended what?
In regards to the actual case, wasn't it dropped due to the gf not being credible according to the prosecutor herself?

It seems they went out to some club, had an argument in his car, must have got bad, police were involved, they charged Raheem with assaulting her, took statements, CPS deemed there was enough to take it to court. In court, his girlfriend said it was nothing, he just shoved her or something, the prosecutor applied to treat her as a hostile witness on the grounds that what she was telling the court was not what she told the police and was not consistent with her earlier statements, the judge said nah fuck this, case over, Raheem pronounced "not guilty", Rodgers must have been a character witness but was never called.

At the time nobody gave a shit because he was a Liverpool player, now looking back, seems as though some money exchanged hands.

 

[dilbert]

this one is about yerry mina. not raheem sterling.

Everton investigate fans' 'racist' chant about Yerry Mina

couldn't find the song, but it is claimed that the lyric goes

He's 6 foot 5 and his name is yerry mina
his cock's like a hose on a vacuum cleaner
goes on a limo with david ospina
hey yerry mina

i think it is to the tune of hey macarena.

that song deem as racist due to stereotyping.
dear me

since when did being thought to have a big dick is offensive
i know some people will say that is a subtle way to call yerry mina black

 

[Judge Jules]

Zackly. A similar chant elsewhere hit the headlines a couple of months or so ago and that dipstick Jim White on Talksh!te was banging the PC drum about it on his morning show. Then a black guy phoned in, made the exact same point you've just made and said he hadn't been offended at all. White and his studio guests - every one of them, er, white - then proceeded to lecture this black caller on how he should have been offended. It was beyond ridiculous.

 

[rubans]

The Mina thing is typical Everton, didn’t they have something similar for Lukaku or was that United? I guess it’s a positive stereotype but if it was negative in some way then I guess most would find it awkward. But as a chant goes it’s not very smart or clever though but assume it hits the spot for the intended target audience.


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[gkmacca]

I've always thought it: Everton are the Spinal Tap of football.