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Jamie Carragher's LFC Dream Team

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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41755.msg1170344#msg1170344 date=1283779145]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41755.msg1170343#msg1170343 date=1283778943]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=41755.msg1170339#msg1170339 date=1283778024]
Joe Cole would currently only get into a most disastrous league debut XI.

Oh and Staunton wasn't any good. not by then anyway.
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But John Barnes of the year of 97' was?
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You're having one of your car-crash nightmares in this thread. It's painful.
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Are you thick Brendan?

Mind reading the thread before you post will you?

Actually I don't care any more, this is like having a debate with a ten-year-old about how fincancial economics influence the world of today.

Not inspiring.
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41755.msg1170338#msg1170338 date=1283777876]
I know. And Heggem. All 20 games of him.
[/quote]Not that im arguing for his inclusion or owt, but Heggem was great in those 20 games.
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I'd never pick Heggem ahead of Riise if I were in Carra's boots. No-one would.

But he was a good player. Which obviously was the only point beeing made.

*S*D*SA*D/8[[hggj#¤DA F"¤"#ER ##¤#@!!!!!$$€£$£
 
[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=41755.msg1170330#msg1170330 date=1283776117]

I don't mind Agger but he is miles away from any LFC dream team, unless its a Scandanavian Tattoo XI.


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That would be a rather slim line-up as I don't remember Molby beeing quite as brushed up.
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41755.msg1170348#msg1170348 date=1283779544]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41755.msg1170346#msg1170346 date=1283779402]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41755.msg1170338#msg1170338 date=1283777876]
I know. And Heggem. All 20 games of him.
[/quote]Not that im arguing for his inclusion or owt, but Heggem was great in those 20 games.
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I'd never pick Heggem ahead of Riise if I were in Carra's boots. No-one would.

But he was a good player. Which obviously was the only point beeing made.

*S*D*SA*D/8[[hggj#¤DA F"¤"#ER ##¤#@!!!!!$$€£$£
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Heggem was a right-back for a start, genius.
 
Are you thick Brendan?

Mind reading the thread before you post will you?

Actually I don't care any more, this is like having a debate with a ten-year-old about how fincancial economics influence the world of today.

Not inspiring.

If I'm thick, I'm afraid that doesn't reflect very well on you, given that when we have one our little tiffs, I make you look like a total cunt every single time, without fail.
 
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[quote author=KHL link=topic=41755.msg1170348#msg1170348 date=1283779544]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41755.msg1170346#msg1170346 date=1283779402]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41755.msg1170338#msg1170338 date=1283777876]
I know. And Heggem. All 20 games of him.
[/quote]Not that im arguing for his inclusion or owt, but Heggem was great in those 20 games.
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I'd never pick Heggem ahead of Riise if I were in Carra's boots. No-one would.

But he was a good player. Which obviously was the only point beeing made.

*S*D*SA*D/8[[hggj#¤DA F"¤"#ER ##¤#@!!!!!$$€£$£
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Heggem was a right-back for a start, genius.
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My bad. That's not the point however. Which I know you know by now because I serioulsy doubt you are THAT obtuse.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41755.msg1170354#msg1170354 date=1283779871]
Are you thick Brendan?

Mind reading the thread before you post will you?

Actually I don't care any more, this is like having a debate with a ten-year-old about how fincancial economics influence the world of today.

Not inspiring.

If I'm thick, I'm afraid that doesn't reflect very well on you, given that when we have one our little tiffs, I make you look like a total cunt every single time, without fail.
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Maybe in your own derailed optic.

Anyone with half a brain reading through this thread can see who's beeing the child and who isn't. I disagreed strongly with a comment made by Richey and he has then somewhat rephrased what he meant, you've just been kicking and screaming on the sideline without no apparent effect whatsoever.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41755.msg1170360#msg1170360 date=1283780594]
you've just been kicking and screaming on the sideline without no apparent effect whatsoever.

Plus ca change
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I don't know what that means.

*logs off*
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41755.msg1170361#msg1170361 date=1283780684]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41755.msg1170360#msg1170360 date=1283780594]
you've just been kicking and screaming on the sideline without no apparent effect whatsoever.

Plus ca change
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I don't know what that means.

*logs off*
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KHL I wont be as cutting as some of the posters towards you but with regards to CB the best of the past 15+ years has been;

sami - imho the second best liverpool defender EVER
carra - one of the best liverpool defenders ever
handchoz - part of one of the meanest liverpool defenses ever

so two for the first team and one for the bench, where exactly does agger fit in that?

with regards to john barnes, his pace had gone but he still had wonderful vision. joe cole has down nothing for liverpool so far.
 
To be fair, all KHL was disputing was whether the players listed by Carra in his dream team were *the only* good players we've had in the last 15 years. I don't think he's trying to say Agger should be in the dream team before Carra or Hyypia.
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=41755.msg1170371#msg1170371 date=1283782434]
To be fair, all KHL was disputing was whether the players listed by Carra in his dream team were *the only* good players we've had in the last 15 years. I don't think he's trying to say Agger should be in the dream team before Carra or Hyypia.
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Don't worry Dmish ... Most of us realized that rather quickly ...
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=41755.msg1170371#msg1170371 date=1283782434]
To be fair, all KHL was disputing was whether the players listed by Carra in his dream team were *the only* good players we've had in the last 15 years. I don't think he's trying to say Agger should be in the dream team before Carra or Hyypia.
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Yeah, I think he has taken Richey's post out of context.
 
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=41755.msg1170371#msg1170371 date=1283782434]
To be fair, all KHL was disputing was whether the players listed by Carra in his dream team were *the only* good players we've had in the last 15 years. I don't think he's trying to say Agger should be in the dream team before Carra or Hyypia.
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So why was he saying things like this?

I know he didn't left on the best of terms but Mascherano for one. You could also argue that Glen Johnson would be there or thereabouts. I know who I'd pick if I were to assemble a team today if the choice were between him and Finnan and this has got nothing to do with me not rating the latter.

I'd also say Daniel Agger isn't far of the standards of Henchoz and I'd certainly pick the former of the two if I were to assemble aforementioned team. And then of course Carra would make the list too if he wasn't the one picking them.


It does sort of seems he IS talking about a Dream Team, rather than just good players.

Maybe he got confused. It happens.
 
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[quote author=dmishra link=topic=41755.msg1170371#msg1170371 date=1283782434]
To be fair, all KHL was disputing was whether the players listed by Carra in his dream team were *the only* good players we've had in the last 15 years. I don't think he's trying to say Agger should be in the dream team before Carra or Hyypia.
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So why was he saying things like this?

I know he didn't left on the best of terms but Mascherano for one. You could also argue that Glen Johnson would be there or thereabouts. I know who I'd pick if I were to assemble a team today if the choice were between him and Finnan and this has got nothing to do with me not rating the latter.

I'd also say Daniel Agger isn't far of the standards of Henchoz and I'd certainly pick the former of the two if I were to assemble aforementioned team. And then of course Carra would make the list too if he wasn't the one picking them.


It does sort of seems he IS talking about a Dream Team, rather than just good players.

Maybe he got confused. It happens.
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Fair enough. I meant if I were manager for club X and had to choose from every player we've had over the past 15 years in their best form.

I'd pick Johnson because of his attacking attributes ahead of e.g. Finnan. I don't think Magic has so far meritted a place in the all time best over the past 15-years team over Finnan perhaps but that doesn't mean I don't rate him highly as a player. If you can't see the difference here so then be it.

And for the record to those who still don't get it. Sami and Carra are still both head and shoulder's above Agger - even in my opinion. That doesn't mean the latter isn't a good footballer and so is Masher, Kuyt and whom else who isn't appearing on that list despite what others may think.

That was my only point with regards to the rather doom-tainted picture others were trying to paint.
 
er, my original point was that this list was easy to make as those were by far the standout players we have had in that period. That is rather depressing. That is all i meant.

Other players had their moments but none would challenge those on Carra's list.
 
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