James Milner
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Even on a slightly inflated wage and large signing on fee - Milner represents reasonable value.
We'd have to pay out £25m+ in transfer fees alone, let alone offer bug wages to attract a top quality player a few years younger.
That's money that can go on a striker - hopefully not Benteke.
We'd have to pay out £25m+ in transfer fees alone, let alone offer bug wages to attract a top quality player a few years younger.
That's money that can go on a striker - hopefully not Benteke.
Who on earth thinks that James Milner is "top class"?
Yep all the hyperbole about Milner being a top class player deserving top dollar is fucking annoying.
He has been a squad player at absolute best for the last five years. If he was so great then he would have played more. If he is still so great now, City would do more to keep him.
I get the sense that this is nothing but a lazily scouted attempt to "replace Gerrard".
Either way, his addition to our squad won't go far to rectify our problems - he's just not what we need.
What we need is a shit hot striker and someone who can coach a defense.
Cue Mark telling me I'm an idiot or a cunt because he doesn't agree. Well let me get the first shot in - fuck you Mark you pencil necked geek.
Man that felt good.
He has been a squad player at absolute best for the last five years. If he was so great then he would have played more. If he is still so great now, City would do more to keep him.
I get the sense that this is nothing but a lazily scouted attempt to "replace Gerrard".
Either way, his addition to our squad won't go far to rectify our problems - he's just not what we need.
What we need is a shit hot striker and someone who can coach a defense.
Cue Mark telling me I'm an idiot or a cunt because he doesn't agree. Well let me get the first shot in - fuck you Mark you pencil necked geek.
Man that felt good.
I haven't watch much of city this year but when I have Milner either hasn't played or was invisible.
Is he really going to offer that much?
People talking about some great performances are quoting games from 2 3 and 4 seasons ago.
At 29 its a decent signing but I'm certainly not jumping up and down over it.
Is he really going to offer that much?
People talking about some great performances are quoting games from 2 3 and 4 seasons ago.
At 29 its a decent signing but I'm certainly not jumping up and down over it.
Milner is very similar to Henderson - both work hard, solid professionals, and have a good ethic ... glad to have them both in the side.
But of course we need a lot more quality added to the squad if we want to compete for top 4.
Milner is a good start, but our next few deals should be players who are of a higher calibre - easier said than done.
But of course we need a lot more quality added to the squad if we want to compete for top 4.
Milner is a good start, but our next few deals should be players who are of a higher calibre - easier said than done.
Is that the only alternative? Delph for 20M?
He made 31 starts in all games across all comps last season. In a side that finished comfortably higher than ourselves in the league.
His motives for leaving appear rooted around playing more and playing centrally.
He's won cups and titles in recent seasons, that experience can only help a young and relatively inexperienced side like ours.
His motives for leaving appear rooted around playing more and playing centrally.
He's won cups and titles in recent seasons, that experience can only help a young and relatively inexperienced side like ours.
Nothing fancy.. did his job for us.. A steady Eddie.. with the odd moment of brilliance..
Ronnie was heavily underrated IMHO...
Still though, to this day I never understood what he was doing when he scored that strange OG against UTD..
The one he appeared to chip the ball over Grobbelaar..
Falcao is available. So is Di Maria
I'd say, given the way our Transfer Committee works, I'm sure he'd be high on the list.
I know you weren't completely serious with the post I commented on and you're not really being serious with this one either... but I see the same sort of thing posted every year and it's like we never learn. We always bemoan our scouting / transfers and yet we use the same tired clichéd arguments to justify signings ourselves.
I'm starting to understand the rationale behind Ross' trolling and that's a frightening prospect!
Not serious in the sense that I wouldn't be recommending Delph.
Serious in the sense, I could actually see us being linked to him at £20m+.
I just don't get why Milner would be a poor signing, when you take into account the zero transfer fee, even with a higher wage - it allows us to spend that transfer fee elsewhere - and with Gerrard's wages off the books, it doesn't fuck our wages structure.
I think getting him is pivotal to next year - not just because of what he brings - but what he allows us to spend other money on.
Of course, that falls, if we spend it on Benteke - in my book.
Allows us to spend money on?? Wtf?! He's COSTING us £7.5m a year!
So, a saving on what we were paying Gerrard then?
The point is we don't have to give another club £20m+ for the opportunity to pay someone £7.5m a year.
We don't need to do either of those things. Neither is anything like a priority.
I wasn't sure about this signing ... on the fence, if you like.
But you've helped me off that fence - Milner is going to be AWESOME for us"
Whether or not we would be interested in Delph at 20M is besides the point. I'm not talking about what FSG have done in the past or might do in the future but the attitudes of the fans and the arguments they make. Such as Player X because he's better than Player Y that is already at the club or Player Z that we've been linked to who is kinda rubbish. It's a very narrow way of looking at things and often proves wrong. We have no control over who we're linked to really or who we end up signing but that doesn't mean we can't evaluate each case within a wider scope.
Milner for "free" (even though we know that free never really means free) or Delph for 20M plus presents a very skewed argument. Perhaps that's the intention, I don't know, but either way I find it frustrating.
That'd be fine if we were going to do that if Milner wasn't available. I'm pretty sure we wouldn't.
I'm actually fine with signing him though, maybe a little expensive, but nowhere near as bad as the likes of Lallana.
I respectively disagree with you Peter.
Replacing the outgoing Steven Gerrard and Glen Johnson are critical - not quite as critical as fixing the fuckup of Suarez replacement last season - but next to it in importance.
Replacing Gerrard is important because we need someone experienced to step in, command some respect with the young players and help lead the team.
Getting a good RB, frees up Can to play more in the centre of midfield - he's young - he needs help - he's not ready to partner Henderson.
Lucas is a DM - decent, maybe not great.
I'd almost advocate selling Sterling if it meant we could add a top DM to the above.
I think Milner will become a shrewd signing but I'm not getting the calls for him to be captain.
He seems a quiet bloke who's gone under the radar most of his career.
He's hardly in your face and shouty either.
Dunno but really can't see him being a commanding type of bloke.
He seems a quiet bloke who's gone under the radar most of his career.
He's hardly in your face and shouty either.
Dunno but really can't see him being a commanding type of bloke.
He'll be as shouty as Gerrard.
I bet he does a mean huddle though.
I bet he does a mean huddle though.
Milner will definitely bring a bit of fight to our team, something we were lacking last season. We are a soft team and the loss of Suarez rendered us to seen as push overs at times. Skrtel, Sakho, Henderson and an aging Gerrard had a bit of fight in them but that's about.
I like the player Milner has grown into. I was at the City game during our title run and he changed the game in the second half. Looks like the majority of the forum are behind this signing too.
I like the player Milner has grown into. I was at the City game during our title run and he changed the game in the second half. Looks like the majority of the forum are behind this signing too.
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