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Dirk is quality.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=38822.msg1050291#msg1050291 date=1265472147]
He's been utterly clueless for the first half of this season (as was the case last season until the Madrid game).
He's fine for a team with UEFA aspirations but he wouldn't get into any of the Scum, Arse or Chav sides.
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He had already scored winners against Citeh and Wigan (off the top of my head) and had scored other and had a few assists before the Madrid game..He had a cracking season last year for nearly all of it.
He's been utterly clueless for the first half of this season (as was the case last season until the Madrid game).
He's fine for a team with UEFA aspirations but he wouldn't get into any of the Scum, Arse or Chav sides.
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He had already scored winners against Citeh and Wigan (off the top of my head) and had scored other and had a few assists before the Madrid game..He had a cracking season last year for nearly all of it.
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[quote author=Terrier link=topic=38822.msg1050291#msg1050291 date=1265472147]
He's been utterly clueless for the first half of this season (as was the case last season until the Madrid game).
He's fine for a team with UEFA aspirations but he wouldn't get into any of the Scum, Arse or Chav sides.
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He had already scored winners against Citeh and Wigan (off the top of my head) and had scored other and had a few assists before the Madrid game..He had a cracking season last year for nearly all of it.
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He most certainly did not.
He did score a few winners, but he was dreadful for the most part up until Madrid.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=38822.msg1050291#msg1050291 date=1265472147]
He's been utterly clueless for the first half of this season (as was the case last season until the Madrid game).
He's fine for a team with UEFA aspirations but he wouldn't get into any of the Scum, Arse or Chav sides.
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He had already scored winners against Citeh and Wigan (off the top of my head) and had scored other and had a few assists before the Madrid game..He had a cracking season last year for nearly all of it.
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He most certainly did not.
He did score a few winners, but he was dreadful for the most part up until Madrid.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050243#msg1050243 date=1265469953]
People that rate Dirk Kuyt have a fuckin clue.
There's a reason why he plays every week.
Only fucking idiots with no clue whatsoever don't understand why.
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Kuyt was absolutely shite for most of this season and most of last as well. A few crucial goals and good games shouldn't change that.
Kuyt almost always plays well in the derby, as its more about heart than skill. But that doesn't hide the fact he hasn't been good enough this year or any year on the right wing.
He is a striker and that is where he should be played.
As for your post, well you actually get angry when people claim Lucas should not play for LFC so anything you say is laughable.
Lucas isn't the worst player in the world but he is nowhere near good enough to be in our first 11. And the fact you can't see that either makes you pigheaded blind stupid or all of the above.
People that rate Dirk Kuyt have a fuckin clue.
There's a reason why he plays every week.
Only fucking idiots with no clue whatsoever don't understand why.
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Kuyt was absolutely shite for most of this season and most of last as well. A few crucial goals and good games shouldn't change that.
Kuyt almost always plays well in the derby, as its more about heart than skill. But that doesn't hide the fact he hasn't been good enough this year or any year on the right wing.
He is a striker and that is where he should be played.
As for your post, well you actually get angry when people claim Lucas should not play for LFC so anything you say is laughable.
Lucas isn't the worst player in the world but he is nowhere near good enough to be in our first 11. And the fact you can't see that either makes you pigheaded blind stupid or all of the above.
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[quote author=GOD_23 link=topic=38822.msg1050294#msg1050294 date=1265472298]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=38822.msg1050291#msg1050291 date=1265472147]
He's been utterly clueless for the first half of this season (as was the case last season until the Madrid game).
He's fine for a team with UEFA aspirations but he wouldn't get into any of the Scum, Arse or Chav sides.
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He had already scored winners against Citeh and Wigan (off the top of my head) and had scored other and had a few assists before the Madrid game..He had a cracking season last year for nearly all of it.
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He most certainly did not.
He did score a few winners, but he was dreadful for the most part up until Madrid.
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Is correct. People have very short memories.
Well done today though, and 50 for LFC. Congrats Kuyt.
I just wish you were played up front week in week out. Not your fault our manager buys you as a stirker and converts you to a defensive winger.
[quote author=GOD_23 link=topic=38822.msg1050294#msg1050294 date=1265472298]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=38822.msg1050291#msg1050291 date=1265472147]
He's been utterly clueless for the first half of this season (as was the case last season until the Madrid game).
He's fine for a team with UEFA aspirations but he wouldn't get into any of the Scum, Arse or Chav sides.
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He had already scored winners against Citeh and Wigan (off the top of my head) and had scored other and had a few assists before the Madrid game..He had a cracking season last year for nearly all of it.
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He most certainly did not.
He did score a few winners, but he was dreadful for the most part up until Madrid.
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Is correct. People have very short memories.
Well done today though, and 50 for LFC. Congrats Kuyt.
I just wish you were played up front week in week out. Not your fault our manager buys you as a stirker and converts you to a defensive winger.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=38822.msg1050296#msg1050296 date=1265472520]
[quote author=GOD_23 link=topic=38822.msg1050294#msg1050294 date=1265472298]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=38822.msg1050291#msg1050291 date=1265472147]
He's been utterly clueless for the first half of this season (as was the case last season until the Madrid game).
He's fine for a team with UEFA aspirations but he wouldn't get into any of the Scum, Arse or Chav sides.
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He had already scored winners against Citeh and Wigan (off the top of my head) and had scored other and had a few assists before the Madrid game..He had a cracking season last year for nearly all of it.
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He most certainly did not.
He did score a few winners, but he was dreadful for the most part up until Madrid.
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Did he cost us points in any games? no....
Did he gain us points by scoring winners and getting assists to winners? Yes.
I'd love too see what dictionary you got your meaning of dreadful from.
[quote author=GOD_23 link=topic=38822.msg1050294#msg1050294 date=1265472298]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=38822.msg1050291#msg1050291 date=1265472147]
He's been utterly clueless for the first half of this season (as was the case last season until the Madrid game).
He's fine for a team with UEFA aspirations but he wouldn't get into any of the Scum, Arse or Chav sides.
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He had already scored winners against Citeh and Wigan (off the top of my head) and had scored other and had a few assists before the Madrid game..He had a cracking season last year for nearly all of it.
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He most certainly did not.
He did score a few winners, but he was dreadful for the most part up until Madrid.
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Did he cost us points in any games? no....
Did he gain us points by scoring winners and getting assists to winners? Yes.
I'd love too see what dictionary you got your meaning of dreadful from.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050243#msg1050243 date=1265469953]
People that rate Dirk Kuyt have a fuckin clue.
There's a reason why he plays every week.
Only fucking idiots with no clue whatsoever don't understand why.
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Whilst correct, that's a bit melodramatic and preachy, isn't it?
Most of us rate him to varying extents - The debate is usually to his role on the team or his "undropability", not whether he's any good or not. He can play the game, and anybody who says otherwise is too blinded by whatever reason they don't like him to discuss it with...
People that rate Dirk Kuyt have a fuckin clue.
There's a reason why he plays every week.
Only fucking idiots with no clue whatsoever don't understand why.
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Whilst correct, that's a bit melodramatic and preachy, isn't it?
Most of us rate him to varying extents - The debate is usually to his role on the team or his "undropability", not whether he's any good or not. He can play the game, and anybody who says otherwise is too blinded by whatever reason they don't like him to discuss it with...
Through no fault of his own he has become symbolic of the flaws in Rafas management, effort over ability etc he has played everyleague game for about 2 years without exception even when he was playing awful. He is an easy guy to like, he has a great attitude and is as honest as the day is long but he is not suited to playing wide he doesnt have the pace or guile to beat his man, his crossing is patchy and he is seriously lacking in creativity. At times it sees that the attribute that has made the right midfield slot his own is his discipline. In that regard he is world class but discipline is not enough, he can sniff out a goal but he missing some startlingly easy chances too.
In a team crying out for players who can put their foot on the ball and play he is symptomatic of an of our problems a mate of mine calls him the best attacking right back in the league and while its a backhanded compliment its not far off the truth. He should be our 2nd/3rd striker not our first choice right winger
In a team crying out for players who can put their foot on the ball and play he is symptomatic of an of our problems a mate of mine calls him the best attacking right back in the league and while its a backhanded compliment its not far off the truth. He should be our 2nd/3rd striker not our first choice right winger
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050255#msg1050255 date=1265470295]
I have pretty much no respect for people that don't rate him. They've obviously never kicked a football in their life.
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Ok so you don't have respect for most football fans because anyone with half an iota of brain knows that Kuyt should play when on form, and be 'available' for the bench when he goes through his month (or two month etc) long patches of 'shit' form. Brendan ... Mark ... Oncey ... the list goes on of people who agree with the above ... and you would too, if you realized how stupid your original post was.
I have pretty much no respect for people that don't rate him. They've obviously never kicked a football in their life.
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Ok so you don't have respect for most football fans because anyone with half an iota of brain knows that Kuyt should play when on form, and be 'available' for the bench when he goes through his month (or two month etc) long patches of 'shit' form. Brendan ... Mark ... Oncey ... the list goes on of people who agree with the above ... and you would too, if you realized how stupid your original post was.
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050243#msg1050243 date=1265469953]
People that rate Dirk Kuyt have a fuckin clue.
There's a reason why he plays every week.
Only fucking idiots with no clue whatsoever don't understand why.
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Whilst correct, that's a bit melodramatic and preachy, isn't it?
Most of us rate him to varying extents - The debate is usually to his role on the team or his "undropability", not whether he's any good or not. He can play the game, and anybody who says otherwise is too blinded by whatever reason they don't like him to discuss it with...[/quote]
The crux of the matter for fans who actually know footy.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050243#msg1050243 date=1265469953]
People that rate Dirk Kuyt have a fuckin clue.
There's a reason why he plays every week.
Only fucking idiots with no clue whatsoever don't understand why.
[/quote]
Whilst correct, that's a bit melodramatic and preachy, isn't it?
Most of us rate him to varying extents - The debate is usually to his role on the team or his "undropability", not whether he's any good or not. He can play the game, and anybody who says otherwise is too blinded by whatever reason they don't like him to discuss it with...[/quote]
The crux of the matter for fans who actually know footy.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=38822.msg1050307#msg1050307 date=1265472993]
Whilst I'm not a big fan of Kuyt (all huff and not much else) I do feel for him being played out in some fabricated Benitez position on the wing - when by definition, he's a striker.
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Not much else except vital goals.
Whilst I'm not a big fan of Kuyt (all huff and not much else) I do feel for him being played out in some fabricated Benitez position on the wing - when by definition, he's a striker.
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Not much else except vital goals.
[quote author=Mike Hunt link=topic=38822.msg1050311#msg1050311 date=1265473203]
Get fucked Terrier.. Seriously..
Your mum is "all huff and puff" but not much else.
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Either comment on the post at hand without insults or do one.
Get fucked Terrier.. Seriously..
Your mum is "all huff and puff" but not much else.
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Either comment on the post at hand without insults or do one.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050255#msg1050255 date=1265470295]
I have pretty much no respect for people that don't rate him. They've obviously never kicked a football in their life.
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Ryan, you cant deny his goals, but you talk pish, hes fucking brutal.
This is easily the worst footballing Liverpool side ever , no mistake,
I have pretty much no respect for people that don't rate him. They've obviously never kicked a football in their life.
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Ryan, you cant deny his goals, but you talk pish, hes fucking brutal.
This is easily the worst footballing Liverpool side ever , no mistake,
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050255#msg1050255 date=1265470295]
I have pretty much no respect for people that don't rate him. They've obviously never kicked a football in their life.
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Ryan, you cant deny his goals, but you talk pish, hes fucking brutal.
This is easily the worst footballing Liverpool side ever , no mistake,
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Ever includes when we were on the verge of division 3.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050255#msg1050255 date=1265470295]
I have pretty much no respect for people that don't rate him. They've obviously never kicked a football in their life.
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Ryan, you cant deny his goals, but you talk pish, hes fucking brutal.
This is easily the worst footballing Liverpool side ever , no mistake,
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Ever includes when we were on the verge of division 3.
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[quote author=charliesurf link=topic=38822.msg1050356#msg1050356 date=1265476820]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050255#msg1050255 date=1265470295]
I have pretty much no respect for people that don't rate him. They've obviously never kicked a football in their life.
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Ryan, you cant deny his goals, but you talk pish, hes fucking brutal.
This is easily the worst footballing Liverpool side ever , no mistake,
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Ever includes when we were on the verge of division 3.
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* Admits defeat * ok........
[quote author=charliesurf link=topic=38822.msg1050356#msg1050356 date=1265476820]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050255#msg1050255 date=1265470295]
I have pretty much no respect for people that don't rate him. They've obviously never kicked a football in their life.
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Ryan, you cant deny his goals, but you talk pish, hes fucking brutal.
This is easily the worst footballing Liverpool side ever , no mistake,
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Ever includes when we were on the verge of division 3.
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* Admits defeat * ok........
He has the touch of the rapist for half a season and hurts some of the build up play. He cost us 2 points against Lyon at Anfield this year and has missed a few chances this year (all which have been vital since early on). If he was played as back up striker to Torres or even partner I'd be happy he was in our squad (but I don't think Torres needs a partner and that would be definitive if the club used its (got) better wingers).
The truth is Kuyt is a phenomenal threat from set pieces because of his work rate and strength. He just isn't a midfielder or winger at all. And isn't the best we have in any position right now when all are fit (Torres). But he'll always get you goals and should be used as Torres backup/partner unless we got better. And he should be dropped through his marathon like shit periods.
Kuyt asking that many questions of Carragher today was unecessary. He had good game and had two or three nice touches today.
I liked what I saw from Maxi today and I think Riera and Maxi (on the right!) are our best wingers, and should get the majority playing time there.
The truth is Kuyt is a phenomenal threat from set pieces because of his work rate and strength. He just isn't a midfielder or winger at all. And isn't the best we have in any position right now when all are fit (Torres). But he'll always get you goals and should be used as Torres backup/partner unless we got better. And he should be dropped through his marathon like shit periods.
Kuyt asking that many questions of Carragher today was unecessary. He had good game and had two or three nice touches today.
I liked what I saw from Maxi today and I think Riera and Maxi (on the right!) are our best wingers, and should get the majority playing time there.
How does work rate make him a threat from set pieces?
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050243#msg1050243 date=1265469953]
People that rate Dirk Kuyt have a fuckin clue.
There's a reason why he plays every week.
Only fucking idiots with no clue whatsoever don't understand why.
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Kuyt was absolutely shite for most of this season and most of last as well.
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Hahaha, why do you do this to yourself?
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38822.msg1050243#msg1050243 date=1265469953]
People that rate Dirk Kuyt have a fuckin clue.
There's a reason why he plays every week.
Only fucking idiots with no clue whatsoever don't understand why.
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Kuyt was absolutely shite for most of this season and most of last as well.
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Hahaha, why do you do this to yourself?
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=38822.msg1050388#msg1050388 date=1265481551]
How does work rate make him a threat from set pieces?
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He'll continue to chase the ball until he gets an opportunity, its the perfect environment for him. Not about pace but rather a good run and a dangerous position which he will constantly fight for, sorry I may have used the wrong word, but I just extrapolated work rate to stamina, fight, and movement.
How does work rate make him a threat from set pieces?
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He'll continue to chase the ball until he gets an opportunity, its the perfect environment for him. Not about pace but rather a good run and a dangerous position which he will constantly fight for, sorry I may have used the wrong word, but I just extrapolated work rate to stamina, fight, and movement.
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