Fans of LFC contributed to the deaths of innocent fans at Heysel, that can never be taken back or reversed it is a genuine shame on our club, the shirt is completely tasteless but not because it aims offence at us, we don' have a leg to stand on re Heysel.
It is tasteless because it cheapens the lives of the innocent Italian and Belgian dead by using them as a commodity in a football rivalry.
I remember being 18 standing singing the munich song on the Kop for a laff.... i thought it was funny i really did..... i thought it was fucking hilarious in fact, part of me still does. The part which is wrong. I'd like t think that if i had of been at the meeting of the hopeless SoS whoppers I would not have joined in the chant... but I aint sure...
Since the standing kop days Sky has exploded and magnified everything so the media coverage was such that i got pretty sick of hearing about the Busby babes and how they would still be fucking winning leagues now if they were alive, watching Charlton crying in the 18 hour long sky tribute last year made me puke really.
Thats the kind of feeling i have about mancs...
An old man crying about his dead friends and im so twisted by rivalry I was sneering on the inside.
Imagine being on a plane with your footy team waking up with burns and your foot facing the wrong way and lots of mates dead.
And there I am sneering pint in hand at the poor ol bastard, a dignified man in his 70s crying about mates of his who never got the chance to live there lives, sneering at him just because he's a manc. Nothing to do with Football everything to do with life. I'm glad i managed to hold my stupid fucking tongue and avoid embarrassing myself. RIP Busby babes.
Im not 18 anymore, unlike that manc youth with the 96 not enough shirt, and i'm a bit wiser now and i know that all of what ive just admitted to here makes me just as much of a cunt as any manc with a dodgy insulting shirt.
The ONLY way to stop this fucking bollocks is not to tolerate it amongst ourselves. If we want respect, which is what the victims of Hillsborough deserve at the very least seeing as we cant get them justice, if we want respect then we have first to show it to others. That include the Mancs.
All of the lives at Munich, Heysel, Hillsborough, Bradford, Ibrox etc etc ALL of them should be respected, terrace humour/banter/rivalry is one thing blatant nastyness scumminess is another. The openess of the Hillsborough wound is plane to see, compounded by many things from the police silence to the press lies to the self pity city snide attacks Liverpool gets levelled at it.
Thats not to say that at times I feel people get into a frenzy of being "offended" which just isn't helpful and raises things to levels which don't help and just seem petty at times, it annoys me as much as the lack of respect in fact. I have no right to be offended by hillsborough chants/digs, i was lucky i never lost anyone. I just wish they would stop for the sake of the families and friends who did lose loved ones. One thing i do know is that by calling people scum etc etc.... that will not help it will just perpetuate it.
If you get round to calling people scum then you have already lost becaue you've missed the point.
It is tasteless because it cheapens the lives of the innocent Italian and Belgian dead by using them as a commodity in a football rivalry.
I remember being 18 standing singing the munich song on the Kop for a laff.... i thought it was funny i really did..... i thought it was fucking hilarious in fact, part of me still does. The part which is wrong. I'd like t think that if i had of been at the meeting of the hopeless SoS whoppers I would not have joined in the chant... but I aint sure...
Since the standing kop days Sky has exploded and magnified everything so the media coverage was such that i got pretty sick of hearing about the Busby babes and how they would still be fucking winning leagues now if they were alive, watching Charlton crying in the 18 hour long sky tribute last year made me puke really.
Thats the kind of feeling i have about mancs...
An old man crying about his dead friends and im so twisted by rivalry I was sneering on the inside.
Imagine being on a plane with your footy team waking up with burns and your foot facing the wrong way and lots of mates dead.
And there I am sneering pint in hand at the poor ol bastard, a dignified man in his 70s crying about mates of his who never got the chance to live there lives, sneering at him just because he's a manc. Nothing to do with Football everything to do with life. I'm glad i managed to hold my stupid fucking tongue and avoid embarrassing myself. RIP Busby babes.
Im not 18 anymore, unlike that manc youth with the 96 not enough shirt, and i'm a bit wiser now and i know that all of what ive just admitted to here makes me just as much of a cunt as any manc with a dodgy insulting shirt.
The ONLY way to stop this fucking bollocks is not to tolerate it amongst ourselves. If we want respect, which is what the victims of Hillsborough deserve at the very least seeing as we cant get them justice, if we want respect then we have first to show it to others. That include the Mancs.
All of the lives at Munich, Heysel, Hillsborough, Bradford, Ibrox etc etc ALL of them should be respected, terrace humour/banter/rivalry is one thing blatant nastyness scumminess is another. The openess of the Hillsborough wound is plane to see, compounded by many things from the police silence to the press lies to the self pity city snide attacks Liverpool gets levelled at it.
Thats not to say that at times I feel people get into a frenzy of being "offended" which just isn't helpful and raises things to levels which don't help and just seem petty at times, it annoys me as much as the lack of respect in fact. I have no right to be offended by hillsborough chants/digs, i was lucky i never lost anyone. I just wish they would stop for the sake of the families and friends who did lose loved ones. One thing i do know is that by calling people scum etc etc.... that will not help it will just perpetuate it.
If you get round to calling people scum then you have already lost becaue you've missed the point.
