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I know there's been a lot of talk about him improving, and whilst that's very true, he scores a hell of a lot of tap-ins nowadays.
I'm not sure how much his improvement has been about him ability-wise, and how much it's about him just being in the right place at the right time.
Having said all that, he used to miss a hell a lot of tap-ins.
His game has definitely improved since he left Liverpool. His crossing and shooting are much better.
New version of Paddy Power's commercial featuring Rhodri Giggs is very cheeky - it is bound to be banned! Giggs is sitting reading the paper and his wife says "Just out to get some milk." He looks up from the paper and says - "Well we do need some milk!"
Have to say, if Man City ever gets severely punished for financial violations to the point of having to sell players, I'd love for Sterling to come back here. He was one of my favorite LFC players at the time; I hated the way he left, obviously, and still not forgiven him – but I do like him as a player. In fact I think he is the best English player by some distance and the way he gradually improved and overcame some of his weaknesses under Guardiola's tutelage has been quite impressive.
I'm sure Klopp would love to work with him too, he is exactly the kind of unclassifiable dual-role player that he likes, not quite a striker or a winger or an AM, but a combination of all 3, a thoroughly modern kind of attacker who can create, defend and finish and fits in multiple systems. At the very least, I'm happy for the tabloid press to be forced to eat their words about a player they chose to vilify.
I'm sure Klopp would love to work with him too, he is exactly the kind of unclassifiable dual-role player that he likes, not quite a striker or a winger or an AM, but a combination of all 3, a thoroughly modern kind of attacker who can create, defend and finish and fits in multiple systems. At the very least, I'm happy for the tabloid press to be forced to eat their words about a player they chose to vilify.
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Doh
I would hate to have him here
He’s gone a bit sh!t, hasn’t he?
Indo on Henderson last night..................
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{td}“I’m playing more of a deeper role, a more disciplined role,” Henderson admitted back in November. “Now and again you may be picking a pass or two in behind, making something happen, but when we’re attacking – especially at Liverpool – I’m focusing on protection, being disciplined, being careful, worrying about counter-attacks, things like that. So it’s hard to do both.”
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And there he remained for the remaining 72 minutes of the game: not the marauding Henderson but the applauding Henderson. There he was, exhorting England’s defenders to wake up after Tomas Soucek got a free header in the England area. There he was, knocking the ball away after a promising Czech advance. There he was, the first man on the scene, mopping up the mess after Ross Barkley had done a whoopsie near the right touchline.
And there he was, one of the last men on the scene as England celebrated their opening goal. While everyone was lauding Raheem Sterling for his two-yard tap-in, Sancho for his slightly misjudged cross and Kane for his defence-splitting pass, Henderson was the one who had started the move a few passes earlier. Nobody remembered that. Nobody really seems to remember very much of anything Henderson does these days.
Which is a curious phenomenon, when you consider that this is a player who has played in a Champions League final, a World Cup semi-final, is chasing a Premier League title this season, England’s most capped active player, with a 50th appearance likely against Montenegro on Monday. It’s a decent enough CV, and yet outside the red half of Merseyside, Henderson still seems the sort of player more likely to elicit a sad sigh.
His only crime, really, has been longevity. Euro 2020, should he make it, will be his fifth tournament before the age of 30. English football has always lusted after the next, shiny new toy. Declan Rice is the latest. Phil Foden may be the next. James Maddison, Harry Winks and James Ward-Prowse are all getting talked about as future England midfield generals. At the root of this, I think, lies some deep, unshakeable idea that somehow, England can do better than Henderson.{/td}
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{td}So far this season – one mildly afflicted by injuries, remember – Henderson has played more passes per 90 minutes than any Premier League midfielder other than Jorginho, whose average pass length tends to be shorter. He has given the ball away less often than anybody else in his position. In the Champions League, meanwhile – the real quiz – he’s given the ball away once in six games, less often than any other midfielder in the competition. And here again, he was England’s most influential, most invisible midfielder: more than 100 touches, 95 passes, another cap in the bag, another win for which he will get virtually none of the credit.{/td}
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{td}“I’m playing more of a deeper role, a more disciplined role,” Henderson admitted back in November. “Now and again you may be picking a pass or two in behind, making something happen, but when we’re attacking – especially at Liverpool – I’m focusing on protection, being disciplined, being careful, worrying about counter-attacks, things like that. So it’s hard to do both.”
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And there he remained for the remaining 72 minutes of the game: not the marauding Henderson but the applauding Henderson. There he was, exhorting England’s defenders to wake up after Tomas Soucek got a free header in the England area. There he was, knocking the ball away after a promising Czech advance. There he was, the first man on the scene, mopping up the mess after Ross Barkley had done a whoopsie near the right touchline.
And there he was, one of the last men on the scene as England celebrated their opening goal. While everyone was lauding Raheem Sterling for his two-yard tap-in, Sancho for his slightly misjudged cross and Kane for his defence-splitting pass, Henderson was the one who had started the move a few passes earlier. Nobody remembered that. Nobody really seems to remember very much of anything Henderson does these days.
Which is a curious phenomenon, when you consider that this is a player who has played in a Champions League final, a World Cup semi-final, is chasing a Premier League title this season, England’s most capped active player, with a 50th appearance likely against Montenegro on Monday. It’s a decent enough CV, and yet outside the red half of Merseyside, Henderson still seems the sort of player more likely to elicit a sad sigh.
His only crime, really, has been longevity. Euro 2020, should he make it, will be his fifth tournament before the age of 30. English football has always lusted after the next, shiny new toy. Declan Rice is the latest. Phil Foden may be the next. James Maddison, Harry Winks and James Ward-Prowse are all getting talked about as future England midfield generals. At the root of this, I think, lies some deep, unshakeable idea that somehow, England can do better than Henderson.{/td}
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{td}So far this season – one mildly afflicted by injuries, remember – Henderson has played more passes per 90 minutes than any Premier League midfielder other than Jorginho, whose average pass length tends to be shorter. He has given the ball away less often than anybody else in his position. In the Champions League, meanwhile – the real quiz – he’s given the ball away once in six games, less often than any other midfielder in the competition. And here again, he was England’s most influential, most invisible midfielder: more than 100 touches, 95 passes, another cap in the bag, another win for which he will get virtually none of the credit.{/td}
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There was a thing on The Echo yesterday about why Shaqiri has hardly played since City got beat by Newcastle, saying that Klopp has decided to become more risk averse and play with defensively minded midfielders since, to defend that nice lead we had. Had, past tense. And this is meant to cheer me up how? We were odds on to win the title that night but since then we've dropped many points that were there for the taking. I don't need statisticians to tell me Henderson is the second coming, not when it should be obvious to anyone watching why we've got worse since Christmas.
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I've said for a while that's what he's done. He's actually (contradicting what most of us think) a very risk averse manager at times, which shows most in finals & big games cos he always sticks with the hard working midfield over the more adventurous one.
I suspect he's got a prediction of citeh dropping points in certain games & he think that will be right, essentially happy to keep us close enough to capitalise if they do drop points when he thinks they will.
I suspect he's got a prediction of citeh dropping points in certain games & he think that will be right, essentially happy to keep us close enough to capitalise if they do drop points when he thinks they will.
If this is Klopp's thinking, it is bad news for Shaqiri but also for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. I had been looking forward to his return to add some much-needed zip to our midfield. Henderson, Milner and Wijnaldum are all good players individually, but my spirits sink when I see them together in the teamsheet because I don't think the combination works.
I thought was just a radio ad till I saw that.
Had some cracking references, the pub called wandering cck 🙂
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I'm sure RM and Belgium will want to rip into Courtouis.
To be honest, his 2nd goal was the only one that he needed to show real quality. But I remember him doing something similar at Liverpool against City when we beat them at Anfield (in THAT season).
His 1st goal was a tap-in and his 3rd was a massive deflection.
Either way whilst he's certainly improved, I don't think it's to the point where he would be a top player at a Real Madrid or Barcelona. Both the England and City have systems that really suit him right now.
I was only joking anyway. I agree I don’t think he’s at that level yet. But his end product is improving.
Haha
No matter how many likes that post will get it's never going to enough..
Pure gold, Oncy.
Im astonished by the love that post got. Was just a throwaway gag.
So am I
Barkley scores two. Amazing scenes.
Quite pleasing that after quite a while not really minding England, I'm now starting to hate a few more of the players again.
Although I blame (or is it thank?) the media for that, with the fucking Southgate/ Sterling/ Kane love-in, and banging on about the lack of egos compared to the era of Gerrard, Ferdinand, Terry et al (ie the ones who have won loads of club trophies) and how this team of Young Lions (Tm) can rule the world
Fuck off
Quite pleasing that after quite a while not really minding England, I'm now starting to hate a few more of the players again.
Although I blame (or is it thank?) the media for that, with the fucking Southgate/ Sterling/ Kane love-in, and banging on about the lack of egos compared to the era of Gerrard, Ferdinand, Terry et al (ie the ones who have won loads of club trophies) and how this team of Young Lions (Tm) can rule the world
Fuck off
Hendo showing England what he can’t do for Liverpool.
Been excellent since coming on hitting some superb forward paces
Been excellent since coming on hitting some superb forward paces
Which is quite a feat considering his gait.
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