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If Gerrard leaves in the summer...

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TheBunnyman

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There are, apparently, lots of rumours doing the rounds in Liverpool about Stevie's marriage having broken down, him living away from his family, and negotiating a summer transfer to Milan. I don't know how true any of this is, although it would certainly explain his glum demeanour and generally poor play this season.

But anyway, how would you all feel if this were true? I'd be sad, obviously, at losing one of the greatest (perhaps THE greatest) Liverpool player I've ever had the privilege of watching, especially if he were to leave without ever winning the league here, and for such personally distressing reasons.

On a football level, however, I wonder if it might prove a blessing in disguise. I'm not letting one bad season cloud my judgment here, nor kidding myself that Gerrard has been anything other than our most inspirational player for years and years.

But he has been so dominant that sometimes you get the impression everyone else is afraid to take the initiative themselves. He has also, I think most people would agree, been a less than perfect captain. And finally, two of our most recent high-profile, big-money signings have failed (Keane and Aquilani), seemingly because both occupy positions a little too close to Gerrard's. I do wonder: if he's no longer there, will we finally buy a proper no10 AND a proper creative CM (or see if Aquilani can fill the latter role)? Will we play with more freedom, be less reliant on one or two players?

Sometimes (cf Everton after Rooney, Arsenal after Henry) teams seem oddly liberated when their most totemic player is sold. Could that be the case for us, or am I fooling myself - and will losing our captain and best player be the final nail in LFC's coffin?
 
If I remember correctly, and I usually do. There has been rumours about Stevie G for the last 7 years.

I think he'll stay. Mainly because all these rumours have been untrue and lies..
 
No one player leaving will be the final nail in our coffin.

That said, it would be disappointing to see him go and that's an understatement. But he has seemed like he's been playing with his head up his arse for most of the season.
 
I feel exactly the same as I did when the rumours about a move to the Chavs were so strong:

(a) I'd absolutely HATE to see Stevie go, but we'd recover. When Shanks left, we got Paisley. When Keegan went, we signed the King. When Rushy went to Juve I wondered where our goals would come from, but Aldo, Digger and Beardo soon answered that;

(b) All that said, I didn't believe Stevie'd go the Chavs and I don't believe he'll go now.
 
All of those examples JJ, we were pretty much top dogs at the time. We were full of good players and it was easier to slot someone in. Losing Gerrard, I can't see who we would replace him with.
 
The other factor to consider is his age. He's 30 now, and this may well be the last season he'd fetch a big transfer fee. Given our financial situation, that's not something we can just ignore.

Don't get me wrong - if the rumours are not true, I'll be relieved. I'd rather he stayed. But I do think it might open things up for us a bit if he did leave. Reina/Mascherano as captain; Gourcuff/Lisandro as no10; Aquilani/Martinez as attacking CM. We'd need a new manager though, obviously.
 
I wonder if a managerial change will affect how he's thinking.

I think he'd stay. But if the rumours are true, and that he's looking for a move. I wonder if he'd change his mind if an other top manager took over.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39568.msg1078792#msg1078792 date=1269977980]
All of those examples JJ, we were pretty much top dogs at the time. We were full of good players and it was easier to slot someone in. Losing Gerrard, I can't see who we would replace him with.
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We weren't out on our own, Sheiky. When Shanks left in 1974 we had just won our first title for a few years after he dismantled his first great team. Leeds were right up there with us and Forest came up to join the both of us a few years later. Admittedly a lot would depend on how much we got for Stevie, and how we spent it.

If - IF - Stevie were considering a move but Mourinho came to LFC, that might make a difference. I doubt the proposed move to Chelsea would have gone as far as it seems to have done if Stevie didn't rate him.
 
There are indeed loads of rumours flying round but, as someone else has said, they seem to be an annual occurrence now.
 
If - IF - Stevie were considering a move but Mourinho came to LFC, that might make a difference. I doubt the proposed move to Chelsea would have gone as far as it seems to have done if Stevie didn't rate him.

Gerrard would be fucking jumping up and down with delight if Mourinho became Liverpool manager next season
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=39568.msg1078809#msg1078809 date=1269980000]
There are indeed loads of rumours flying round but, as someone else has said, they seem to be an annual occurrence now.
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What do you think mate?
 
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=39568.msg1078809#msg1078809 date=1269980000]
There are indeed loads of rumours flying round but, as someone else has said, they seem to be an annual occurrence now.
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What do you think mate?
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Dunno. They seem a little more strong this time as it's not for footballing reasons
 
There might be (or rather seemingly are) all sorts of things going on in the background that I don't know about, but I just can't see him leaving. He means too much to the club from a both a sporting and brand point of view.

If the worst did happen, it'd be nice to already have signed someone like Sneijder or Diego (back when I suggested them), but now I don't really know what sort of replacement we should be looking at. We do have Aquilani of course, but he doesn't strike me as someone who could provide the sort of attacking thrust we need - unless the team is adapted to the tippy tappy bellend style of play.
 
I would be very sad and it would be the end of an era. He's a player who i've grown up watching and idolising.

In saying that if he was to leave i would feel a sense of relief. I honestly think the fella has gone stale at Liverpool FC hence the uncommitted, weak performances and his sulky/grump demenour on the pitch, combined with poor leadership qualities.
A change imo is needed for him and the club. For too long now it's all been about Steven Gerrard and not Liverpool FC.

It's time to build our future around players like Reina, Agger, Johnson, Mascherano and Torres.
 
[quote author=ILD link=topic=39568.msg1078905#msg1078905 date=1269985641]
This Gerrard 'bashing' is ridiculous.
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It's only really coming from Mark / Kuntwar / whoever the fuck this guy is.

Then again, who knows. After watching Gerrard rack up 25 goals and 11 assists last season, there might have been other mentalists thinking "enough is enough! he's got to go!".
 
I was missed at gerrard when he wanted to go to chelsea as I didn't think he was giving the manager a chance but now five years later if gerrard left I would just wish him well, he doesn't owe us anything.
 
Good post Bunster, I can almost hear the eggshells cracking as you tip toe through them 😉

I think there is a lot of truth being spoken in this thread, not least of all by Brendan.


regards
 
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[quote author=ILD link=topic=39568.msg1078905#msg1078905 date=1269985641]
This Gerrard 'bashing' is ridiculous.
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It's only really coming from Mark / Kuntwar / whoever the fuck this guy is.

Then again, who knows. After watching Gerrard rack up 25 goals and 11 assists last season, there might have been other mentalists thinking "enough is enough! he's got to go!".
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Perhaps I should have said, any Gerrard bashing is ridiculous. I would never advocate selling Gerrard, don't know why anyone would be willing to sell.
 
I am not sure anyone is advocating selling him, I think there is a train of thought that says there are other sides to the coin if it does happen David, anyway it would be more about Gerrard wanting to leave than us wanting to sell.


regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39568.msg1078968#msg1078968 date=1269991431]
I am not sure anyone is advocating selling him, I think there is a train of thought that says there are other sides to the coin if it does happen David, anyway it would be more about Gerrard wanting to leave than us wanting to sell.


regards
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I understand Gerrard might have his motives but I would never entertain selling him if we had any control over it. I sense the impression that some (not you) would be willing to sell Gerrard if the opportunity arises. Perhaps there are other sides to the coin or possible positives to Gerrard going but I don't want to face that reality for another few seasons at least.

Fuck me, did FF even state it would be some sort of 'relief'?
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39568.msg1079008#msg1079008 date=1270000624]
If we were managed by Wenger, Gerrard would be sold for 25/30M this summer.
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Almost certainly. And we'd have the hottest prospects out of French Africa for a pittance as well.
 
It was a massive loss if Gerrard went no doubt about it, and even 40m would not go anywhere near to replacing what he gives to this team club and city.

He won't leave in any case. No chance.
 
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