How long do we need?
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I think it's clear enough that just as with many struggling businesses taken into new ownership, the Club needs investment to get it performing to its full potential. Obviously all investment is a risk - see the money blown on transfers so far - and progress can still be made without it by better planning and management, but with so much at stake just from CL football then not spending the money is a hell of a risk as well.
Personally I've always felt that the club can get itself into good shape fairly quickly and be self-financing, but that some even just reasonably well directed investment in the squad would more than pay for itself in the 5 years or so it'll take for the other longer term plans to bear fruit. We've got to be mindful of the value of protecting and galvanising the 'brand' which can be the equal of anything in Europe if the team is doing the business on the pitch.
My mate is actually good mates with Seth Johnson and he swears blind that it went like this.
Seth and his agent go into the meeting expecting a 15k salary.
Ridsdale - 'The most we can offer you is 28k'
Seth looks at his agent.
Ridsdale missinterprets
Ridsdale - 'Ok 35k but thats our final offer'
According to Seth himself this is the stone truth.
Your wage bill reflects your league position, so ours should be higher than most if we want top 4, however once you miss out on that cl place it can't be, meaning you can't get in the top 4 again. Ad infinitum.
As we were one of the key protagonists in getting the level of separation between the haves & the have not's it's as ironic as it is sickening that this hateful situation is of our own creation.
The only way to get us financially capable of competing each year is either a miracle worker getting us up there on lesser resources for a couple of years & competing in the cl again, or the tv rights money being renegotiated on the basis of popularity. I hate the latter option btw, as it goes against the core values of football & supporting all levels that I believe is key in this country.
As we were one of the key protagonists in getting the level of separation between the haves & the have not's it's as ironic as it is sickening that this hateful situation is of our own creation.
The only way to get us financially capable of competing each year is either a miracle worker getting us up there on lesser resources for a couple of years & competing in the cl again, or the tv rights money being renegotiated on the basis of popularity. I hate the latter option btw, as it goes against the core values of football & supporting all levels that I believe is key in this country.
If we were to suddenly compete without a higher level of investment, it would probably mean that the owners would feel that a strategy of underinvestment equals success.
Defo, remember Parrybowl getting scrapped because Houllier won those three cups? The board decided it didn't need extra dough to compete if they had the right manager. This board is making the same gamble, the difference this time is that this board don't really give a fuck what happens to LFC.
I reckon they've had a discussion at some point last season when it was going shit and they've asked each other if they have the appetite to take on the seven teams above us with another throw of the dice and the answer has been NO. They know that they got the club for peanuts and will make a profit on it either way. To invest to try to get back into the top 4 is a gamble, it failed last year, they got scared and they aren't doing it again. Get used to mid table shite until they sell us.
I reckon they've had a discussion at some point last season when it was going shit and they've asked each other if they have the appetite to take on the seven teams above us with another throw of the dice and the answer has been NO. They know that they got the club for peanuts and will make a profit on it either way. To invest to try to get back into the top 4 is a gamble, it failed last year, they got scared and they aren't doing it again. Get used to mid table shite until they sell us.
I think if we fail to qualify for the CL by the end of the season we are fucked. The only resolution to the problem will be the owners looking to sell our best players, or sell the club to a rich Oil man in Russia or Middle East. I could be wrong but not getting CL footy is a big problem for us long term and as has been shown this time round - without it you open yourself up to losing your best players, and not being able to attract the best. Before Man City got rich that 4th space was really for us but now the way it's going and difficulty in getting a top 4 finish - if we fail the others that do qualify will only get stronger.
This. Absolutely this. 'Cept it's the reality people don't wanna hear.
I've honestly heard this story from three different people, who say their mate was friends with seth Johnston.
I felt like we had a second chance, to build on what Rafa achieved in getting us "up there" , as a destination for European talent, but every year, we're becoming less and less attractive to the right kind of player.
You believe this 100%?
I don't think we need too long. The money men are being pragmatic after Kenny and Damien squandered our pot of gold. We have to be sensible in the market and Rodgers is by all accounts not only a frugal but pratical man. Siggurdson is an example of walking away of him not buckling to players/agents demands. I like that he can walk away when he needs to. It may explain his stance on wanting to sell Carroll to raise cash for signing he views more suitable to the system he wants to implement.
A season maybe. We're not as far off as some pessimist espout. Last season we played some pretty damn great football but our finishing was exceptionally poor. We won't be that poor again and a few wins under the belt will infect the players with confidence and belief. We certainly have a tough start but it will be all bout mentality and belief.
Go RedMen!
A season maybe. We're not as far off as some pessimist espout. Last season we played some pretty damn great football but our finishing was exceptionally poor. We won't be that poor again and a few wins under the belt will infect the players with confidence and belief. We certainly have a tough start but it will be all bout mentality and belief.
Go RedMen!
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