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Hodgson: Where's the famous Anfield support?

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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=43328.msg1239886#msg1239886 date=1293727607]
There will be a bit of a fan reaction on Saturday anyway. That will soon wane off though if the don't give something
to sing about i.e. a bit of pride and passion
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Do you reckon? I'll wager it will be as quiet as last night unless we score in the first 5 mins.
 
Bolton are a better team than us at the moment. I fully expected us to win until I saw the formation last night, I've never assumed we'd beat Bolton.
 
'I have been lucky the support I have had has been from the players and within the club,' he said. 'I haven't had a lot of support from the fans ever since I came here.

'The fans have not been happy with what they have seen in the whole of 2010 and since I came here we have not won enough games to keep them happy.

'That is understandable in the sense that they were hoping when I came here the latter part of last season would be forgotten and we would start flying again.

'That hasn't happened and as a result, as manager, you are the one in the firing line, but of course it doesn't make the job easier because it makes the players more nervous.

'I can only say as a manager you have to understand that fans care for their club and want it to do well and when it is not doing well they voice their disapproval.

'That is the way of football today. When you take on any job, especially a big job like this one, and results don't go the way people want - especially when you lose games at home - you are going to be a target for disapproval.

'I have to accept that and try to keep doing my job and try to improve things for the club and hoping that the results turn around.

'It is a vicious circle and in order to break it we have to start playing well and winning matches because if we don't they are going to reserve their support until such time as we can do it.'
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6 7 1 Bolton Wanderers 20 7 8 5 32 26 6 29
7 6 1 Sunderland 20 6 9 5 21 22 -1 27
8 10 2 Blackpool 17 7 4 6 26 29 -3 25
9 12 3 Blackburn Rovers 20 7 4 9 26 31 -5 25
10 13 3 Stoke City 19 7 3 9 23 24 -1 24
11 14 3 Everton 19 4 10 5 21 22 -1 22
12 9 3 Liverpool 18 6 4 8 21 23 -2 22

Just look at the shitty teams above us!

We are WELL better than them, who the fuck said no one could do better with the squad we have? Its UTTER BOLLOX!

Who the fuck said Kenny couldn't do better??? For Fucks sake ANYONE can do better because Hodgson is a fucking retarded Div!!!
 
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The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
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maybe it is the gulf in class between our best players and worst players. other teams have a squad of more or less comparable ability, and so that might help them form a cohesive team. but when you have a squad where torres has to play with n'gog. or gerrard has to play with lucas. maybe on paper you take an average and think the team should be top 4. but in reality having such polar extremes doesn't balance somewhere in the middle, rather it just creates imbalance and instability and everything just gets torn to shreds.
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Yeah, I think there's something in that.
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ha, i read that post by dantes and thought it sounded like half-baked nonsense, although it wasn't really interesting enough to think about much, and then the next post down is 'Squiggles' agreeing with it and i fucking *know* it was bollocks.
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Why are you being such a tosser at the moment? Any particular reason?
 
Rather than criticising peter, whats your theory on us at the minute?
 
I don't know what I've done to piss him off. I'm not even sure he knows.

He's just a bit weird like that.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=43328.msg1240065#msg1240065 date=1293750864]
Apparently The Times are reporting tomorrow that the owners have run out of patience.
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A quick scan on Newsnow seems to suggest that the guardian and mail are reporting likewise though no doubt all articles contain little in the way of substance and much conjecture unfortunately.
 
Times got it absolutely wrong when they say the Huang China consortium was taking over LFC
 
I still think nesv will resist sacking Roy unless we get truly pulled into a relagation. Read rory's views on subject they mirror mine exactly.
 
I think Bolton will play us off the park, Roy will make wholesale changes to the team from the other night in an effort to stamp some authority/get the sack. Coyle will set his team up well with a clear gameplan and they will do us. That will be a bridge too far and the fans will turn on him in a manner we have never seen at anfield

his position is untenable
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=43328.msg1240041#msg1240041 date=1293746399]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43328.msg1239862#msg1239862 date=1293726452]
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[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=43328.msg1239695#msg1239695 date=1293715422]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43328.msg1239644#msg1239644 date=1293712010]
The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
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maybe it is the gulf in class between our best players and worst players. other teams have a squad of more or less comparable ability, and so that might help them form a cohesive team. but when you have a squad where torres has to play with n'gog. or gerrard has to play with lucas. maybe on paper you take an average and think the team should be top 4. but in reality having such polar extremes doesn't balance somewhere in the middle, rather it just creates imbalance and instability and everything just gets torn to shreds.
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Yeah, I think there's something in that.
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ha, i read that post by dantes and thought it sounded like half-baked nonsense, although it wasn't really interesting enough to think about much, and then the next post down is 'Squiggles' agreeing with it and i fucking *know* it was bollocks.
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Why are you being such a tosser at the moment? Any particular reason?
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any particular reason you care?
 
[quote author=Binny link=topic=43328.msg1239917#msg1239917 date=1293731748]
'I have been lucky the support I have had has been from the players and within the club,' he said. 'I haven't had a lot of support from the fans ever since I came here.

'The fans have not been happy with what they have seen in the whole of 2010 and since I came here we have not won enough games to keep them happy.

'That is understandable in the sense that they were hoping when I came here the latter part of last season would be forgotten and we would start flying again.

'That hasn't happened and as a result, as manager, you are the one in the firing line, but of course it doesn't make the job easier because it makes the players more nervous.

'I can only say as a manager you have to understand that fans care for their club and want it to do well and when it is not doing well they voice their disapproval.

'That is the way of football today. When you take on any job, especially a big job like this one, and results don't go the way people want - especially when you lose games at home - you are going to be a target for disapproval.

'I have to accept that and try to keep doing my job and try to improve things for the club and hoping that the results turn around.

'It is a vicious circle and in order to break it we have to start playing well and winning matches because if we don't they are going to reserve their support until such time as we can do it.'
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To be fair he's said nothing wrong there. But he should still go. Quick smart.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43328.msg1240096#msg1240096 date=1293754389]
I still think nesv will resist sacking Roy unless we get truly pulled into a relagation. Read rory's views on subject they mirror mine exactly.
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Are we not close enough now?
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43328.msg1239644#msg1239644 date=1293712010]
The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
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maybe it is the gulf in class between our best players and worst players. other teams have a squad of more or less comparable ability, and so that might help them form a cohesive team. but when you have a squad where torres has to play with n'gog. or gerrard has to play with lucas. maybe on paper you take an average and think the team should be top 4. but in reality having such polar extremes doesn't balance somewhere in the middle, rather it just creates imbalance and instability and everything just gets torn to shreds.
[/quote]

Yeah, I think there's something in that.
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ha, i read that post by dantes and thought it sounded like half-baked nonsense, although it wasn't really interesting enough to think about much, and then the next post down is 'Squiggles' agreeing with it and i fucking *know* it was bollocks.
[/quote]

Why are you being such a tosser at the moment? Any particular reason?
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any particular reason you care?
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Not really. I used to think you were quite a good poster, that's all.
 
"Liverpool fans are at their best when things aren't going well. I think we can count on them for support" - Roy at this morning's press conference.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=43328.msg1240201#msg1240201 date=1293788235]
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[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43328.msg1239862#msg1239862 date=1293726452]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=43328.msg1239754#msg1239754 date=1293718638]
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=43328.msg1239695#msg1239695 date=1293715422]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43328.msg1239644#msg1239644 date=1293712010]
The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
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maybe it is the gulf in class between our best players and worst players. other teams have a squad of more or less comparable ability, and so that might help them form a cohesive team. but when you have a squad where torres has to play with n'gog. or gerrard has to play with lucas. maybe on paper you take an average and think the team should be top 4. but in reality having such polar extremes doesn't balance somewhere in the middle, rather it just creates imbalance and instability and everything just gets torn to shreds.
[/quote]

Yeah, I think there's something in that.
[/quote]

ha, i read that post by dantes and thought it sounded like half-baked nonsense, although it wasn't really interesting enough to think about much, and then the next post down is 'Squiggles' agreeing with it and i fucking *know* it was bollocks.
[/quote]

Why are you being such a tosser at the moment? Any particular reason?
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any particular reason you care?
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Not really. I used to think you were quite a good poster, that's all.

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oh, i feel bad now, in a selfish kind of way.

i'm being a 'tosser' because i don't like squiggles, and his posts generally get up my nose more than anyone's. i was rude to mark 1975 because he continues to be needlessly abusive to mr_moo even though i'd made it clear to everyone that he's a friend and nowhere near as bad as he'd come across - and also because the 'pre-madonna' thing was just so hilariously thick to me that i still half suspected it was a joke, and i kind of wanted to know for sure.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43328.msg1240090#msg1240090 date=1293753599]
Its Barrett, so the story has got legs. Same being reported in the Guardian.
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Barrett also bigged up the China "link".
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43328.msg1240216#msg1240216 date=1293789731]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43328.msg1240090#msg1240090 date=1293753599]
Its Barrett, so the story has got legs. Same being reported in the Guardian.
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Barrett also bigged up the China "link".
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i'm suppressing every politically incorrect portmanteau-coining urge in my body right now.
 
Roy Hodgson insists he did not intend to attack Liverpool's fans during comments he made in the wake of the 1-0 defeat to Wolves on Wednesday.

After that loss, Hodgson complained that the "famous Anfield support has not really been there" following his appointment as Liverpool boss in the summer.

That accusation did nothing to relieve the pressure on Hodgson, whose side are languishing in 12th place, but he insists that his words were taken out of context.

"I certainly regret if I've offended [the fans] in any way," he said. "It wasn't an offensive comment from my part - in fact, it was a purely defensive comment, and I went on to say I was quite prepared to take responsibility and be in the firing line for the team's poor performance.

"I sympathised and empathised [with the fans]. I'm very disappointed that's been changed into me attacking the fans, there's no way I would want to do that, and it wouldn't be justified either.

"I think [I have the fans support], I think they support the club and the person who is given the job as manager of the club. I think it's been an uphill struggle from the start and I don't think they necessarily got behind the appointment - and there's no reason why they should. They certainly were prepared to give me the chance to get the team playing well."

Although Hodgson was in conciliatory mood, he did risk the fans' wrath by conceding that Liverpool's Champions League dream was rapidly fading. Following the Wolves defeat - their eighth in the league this season - the Reds are 11 points away from fourth-placed Chelsea.

"Nothing's ever gone, but I don't think it's right at this moment in time to be talking about Champions League qualification," he said. "The first aim has got to be to get ourselves into the top of the table and into some sort of touching distance."
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He's clearly had his knuckles rapped from above, just as he did after his comments about Rafa.

Here's hoping NESV draw the obvious conclusions.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43328.msg1240223#msg1240223 date=1293790448]
He's clearly had his knuckles rapped from above, just as he did after his comments about Rafa.

Here's hoping NESV draw the obvious conclusions.
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"Apologised" for comments on Johnson, Rafa and now the fans. Does he ever 'learn'?
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43328.msg1240223#msg1240223 date=1293790448]
He's clearly had his knuckles rapped from above, just as he did after his comments about Rafa.

Here's hoping NESV draw the obvious conclusions.
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Maybe his son has been on here, seen the comments and told Dad.

*beep beep* Warning, old codger reversing *beep beep* Warning, old codger reversing *beep beep*
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43328.msg1240231#msg1240231 date=1293791914]
I don't think he's capable of it, not any more.
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considering i'm always hearing about all the high-brow literature he reads - as if that's the remotest bit relevant to fucking anything apart from his aptitude for studying english as an extremely mature student - it's a bit baffling just how insensitive and unintelligent his use of language is, isn't it?
 
Obviously the press will twist everything in the worst possible way, especially if they smell blood. But Hodgson have been clumsy at best. Such an experienced manager shouldnt give them anything to work with.
 
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43328.msg1240231#msg1240231 date=1293791914]
I don't think he's capable of it, not any more.
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considering i'm always hearing about all the high-brow literature he reads - as if that's the remotest bit relevant to fucking anything apart from his aptitude for studying english as an extremely mature student - it's a bit baffling just how insensitive and unintelligent his use of language is, isn't it?
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It is, and I've spent some time thinking about this very thing. My guess is it's because, deep down, he knows full well that the job is a step too high for him and can't help revealing that when put on the spot with little or no time to consider his replies.
 
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