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It's just like one of the journos over here said when we gave him the job. He could not understand why the media in Britain labelled him a nice man. Every country where he's been a manager around Europe have a completly differnet opinion.

It's a no brainer really.

Poor results. Poor sigings. Lost the players. Lost the fans. Turn it around? No. Sack? Yes.
 
On a lighter note, the Evertonian's are revelling in the fact that they are looking down on us, well one place actually, but at least they're happy.
 
Bully for them, the thick twats. Their whole existence seems to center around what we do as a team and what they do in comparison to that. Fuckwit fans all of them. Worry about your own team first.
 
I acutally enjoyed watching football this Christmas. Our games being postponed ment that watching the game could be done with a relaxed attitude. 18 days without a game had made me forget a bit of how shite we've been. And after yesterdays game I'm not bothering with anymore football for a while. Easy.

Bah!
 
Roy is a cunt. We have supported him but he hasnt done or said anything to earn our respect.

Signing Diouf was a low point in our history but appointing Roy must be the worst decision in our history.
 
"Maybe we are lacking quality and confidence"


Surely by questioning whether we have the former you are guaranteeing the absence of the latter you utter fucking tool.

The players are not robots?? And what the fuck are we you dickhead?? We will chirrup along happily from the stands while we are forced to watch an erstwhile great team fumble around blindly against Wolverhampton fucking Wanderers.

Completely unsuitable for the job, in fact you would have to question whether he is a plant from Sir Alex, the fucking neck of the man! How much shit has he shovelled down our throats and then he comes out with that!

Sorry Roy but enough now, it's over. Go.
 
Phil Neal has warned Roy Hodgson he could live to regret his outburst against the Liverpool fans.

Following Wednesday night's dismal 1-0 defeat at home to Wolves, Hodgson moaned about a lack of support from The Kop. But Neal feels that was the wrong thing to do.

He said: "Hodgson could rue saying those words about the fans, that they haven't backed him.

"Against Wolves there was 90 minutes without a shot on goal, no pressure, and no excitement for the fans. And that's down to the players and down to Hodgson."

Neal was as disillusioned as the rest of the Anfield faithful at what he saw against Mick Mccarthy's strugglers, and insists it was simply not good enough.

He added: "We couldn’t believe what we we were seeing. We didn’t put any pressure on Wolves. There was no cohesion and no-one looked as they were enjoying playing.

"We didn’t look a team and that’s the frightening thing.

"Shankly and Paisley would have been turning in their graves to see that pathetic team effort."
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The Reds’ embarrassing home defeat by a Wolves side who kicked off the night rock bottom of the Premier League left Liverpool in the bottom half of the table on 22 points – their lowest points tally heading into a New Year since 1953-54, when Don Welsh’s side was relegated.
 
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Patience in Roy Hodsgon has run out at alienated Anfield

Tony Evans Football Editor
Last updated December 30 2010 12:10AM

Last night the dissatisfaction that has bubbled beneath the surface at Anfield was given public voice. As Wolverhampton Wanderers added a new level of humiliation to an embarrassing campaign, the Kop sang: “Hodgson for Englandâ€.

That is shocking enough in itself. Nowhere in football has the relationship between manager and fans been turned into such a fetish as at Liverpool.
Bill Shankly created an emotional link between the Boot Room and the terraces that has sometimes been strained — by Graeme Souness and most recently in the fading days of the Rafael Benítez regime — but never broken. Last night it was.

Hodgson inherited a dysfunctional club but was bequeathed a core of talent in Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres and Pepe Reina that Mick McCarthy would kill for. The former Fulham manager was presented as the man who would get the best out of the squad. Instead it got worse.

John W. Henry and New England Sports Ventures, the new owners, have been beyond reproach since arriving at Anfield. Henry admits he knows little about football and is learning the game. His has been a patient and sensible approach aimed at bringing stability.

However, patience is not always rewarded. Hodgson is alienating players, staff members talk disparagingly about his methods and attitude and now the supporters have crossed a line that not long ago would have been unimaginable. Kenny Dalglish, who advised against employing Hodgson, must be seething with frustration.

A manager with four English titles to his credit, he has the charisma and knowledge to bring stability and purpose to a club that lack both. At least in the short term.

Anfield has just emerged from a period of civil war and cannot afford another. Henry needs to listen and act now. Otherwise things will spiral out of control on and off the pitch.
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Good article, but didnt Kenny back his appointment?
 
The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
 
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The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
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maybe it is the gulf in class between our best players and worst players. other teams have a squad of more or less comparable ability, and so that might help them form a cohesive team. but when you have a squad where torres has to play with n'gog. or gerrard has to play with lucas. maybe on paper you take an average and think the team should be top 4. but in reality having such polar extremes doesn't balance somewhere in the middle, rather it just creates imbalance and instability and everything just gets torn to shreds.
 
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[quote author=Buddha link=topic=43328.msg1239496#msg1239496 date=1293699973]
Patience in Roy Hodsgon has run out at alienated Anfield

Tony Evans Football Editor
Last updated December 30 2010 12:10AM

Last night the dissatisfaction that has bubbled beneath the surface at Anfield was given public voice. As Wolverhampton Wanderers added a new level of humiliation to an embarrassing campaign, the Kop sang: “Hodgson for Englandâ€.

That is shocking enough in itself. Nowhere in football has the relationship between manager and fans been turned into such a fetish as at Liverpool.
Bill Shankly created an emotional link between the Boot Room and the terraces that has sometimes been strained — by Graeme Souness and most recently in the fading days of the Rafael Benítez regime — but never broken. Last night it was.

Hodgson inherited a dysfunctional club but was bequeathed a core of talent in Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres and Pepe Reina that Mick McCarthy would kill for. The former Fulham manager was presented as the man who would get the best out of the squad. Instead it got worse.

John W. Henry and New England Sports Ventures, the new owners, have been beyond reproach since arriving at Anfield. Henry admits he knows little about football and is learning the game. His has been a patient and sensible approach aimed at bringing stability.

However, patience is not always rewarded. Hodgson is alienating players, staff members talk disparagingly about his methods and attitude and now the supporters have crossed a line that not long ago would have been unimaginable. Kenny Dalglish, who advised against employing Hodgson, must be seething with frustration.

A manager with four English titles to his credit, he has the charisma and knowledge to bring stability and purpose to a club that lack both. At least in the short term.

Anfield has just emerged from a period of civil war and cannot afford another. Henry needs to listen and act now. Otherwise things will spiral out of control on and off the pitch.
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Good article, but didnt Kenny back his appointment?
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I think he backed him after he was appointed, which he kind of has to do.
 
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The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
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maybe it is the gulf in class between our best players and worst players. other teams have a squad of more or less comparable ability, and so that might help them form a cohesive team. but when you have a squad where torres has to play with n'gog. or gerrard has to play with lucas. maybe on paper you take an average and think the team should be top 4. but in reality having such polar extremes doesn't balance somewhere in the middle, rather it just creates imbalance and instability and everything just gets torn to shreds.
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Yeah, I think there's something in that.
 
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I genuinely think he'll be here until the end of the season. Somebody tell me I'm wrong.
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You best get used to that relegation thread the mate. Seriously. Going off other forums there are people saying that we can't go down. When challenged as to why they think that the response is " Cos we are Liverpool " People need to start to think differently because it can happen with Woy in charge.
 
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The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
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maybe it is the gulf in class between our best players and worst players. other teams have a squad of more or less comparable ability, and so that might help them form a cohesive team. but when you have a squad where torres has to play with n'gog. or gerrard has to play with lucas. maybe on paper you take an average and think the team should be top 4. but in reality having such polar extremes doesn't balance somewhere in the middle, rather it just creates imbalance and instability and everything just gets torn to shreds.
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Yeah, I think there's something in that.
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There isn't. One year ago the same players (minus a couple of players) finished 7th (I'd snatch your arm off for that now) and two years ago the same players (minus a couple of players) were beating Manu and real in their back yard, now two seasons on we are the ones getting beat in our back yard by the likes of b'pool, Northampton and wolves. The blame is the manager's. He is fucking SHITE. No way would wolves beat us at home and be outplayed into the bargain with rafa still charge. No way. So that is down to the manager
 
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The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
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maybe it is the gulf in class between our best players and worst players. other teams have a squad of more or less comparable ability, and so that might help them form a cohesive team. but when you have a squad where torres has to play with n'gog. or gerrard has to play with lucas. maybe on paper you take an average and think the team should be top 4. but in reality having such polar extremes doesn't balance somewhere in the middle, rather it just creates imbalance and instability and everything just gets torn to shreds.
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Yeah, I think there's something in that.
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There isn't. One year ago the same players (minus a couple of players) finished 7th (I'd snatch your arm off for that now) and two years ago the same players (minus a couple of players) were beating Manu and real in their back yard, now two seasons on we are the ones getting beat in our back yard by the likes of b'pool, Northampton and wolves. The blame is the manager's. He is fucking SHITE. No way would wolves beat us at home and be outplayed into the bargain with rafa still charge. No way. So that is down to the manager
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Is the correct answer. He stuck a fucking central midfielder on the right wing and Kuyt on the left when he had Cole and Babel and Maxi on the bench. You can argue about their relative merits but at least they're familiar with getting the ball on the flank and doing something with it. It was obvious before the game started and even more so after. I thought we might get away with it if he swapped Merieles and Gerrard. The fact that Gerrard walks back into the team and starts taking corners again instantly even though it's patently obvious to anyone with eyes that Meirles is a million times better at taking them and Gerrard is a billion times more likely to score a headed goal from a cross. And then when Cole does come on it's to go in the centre. And when Babel comes on it's to go in the centre. I mean how fucking wrong can you be on every fucking item?

He's a fucking imbecile. If I knew where he lived I'd be pretending to deliver meals on wheels to the bastard and doing him in with a hammer.
 
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The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
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maybe it is the gulf in class between our best players and worst players. other teams have a squad of more or less comparable ability, and so that might help them form a cohesive team. but when you have a squad where torres has to play with n'gog. or gerrard has to play with lucas. maybe on paper you take an average and think the team should be top 4. but in reality having such polar extremes doesn't balance somewhere in the middle, rather it just creates imbalance and instability and everything just gets torn to shreds.
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Yeah, I think there's something in that.
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There isn't. One year ago the same players (minus a couple of players) finished 7th (I'd snatch your arm off for that now) and two years ago the same players (minus a couple of players) were beating Manu and real in their back yard, now two seasons on we are the ones getting beat in our back yard by the likes of b'pool, Northampton and wolves. The blame is the manager's. He is fucking SHITE. No way would wolves beat us at home and be outplayed into the bargain with rafa still charge. No way. So that is down to the manager
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in those years torres was alongside gerrard, and mascherano was alongside alonso. carragher was alongside hyypia. thats comparable quality if you ask me
 
I quite agree with Dantes and Rafa made some similar baffling decisions more than once over all his years.
Rafa should have finished 4th last season and this squad should be in the top 6.
Both clearly failed and had/have to go.

Get Kenny now, lets try to finish in a european spot and then spend the summer to get a new manager.
Rijkaard or Deschamps would be good
 
Football really isn't as complicated as some people make out but getting the basics right like players in the right positions is the most simple and fundamental building block to getting a team performance. When managers fail to do that it's noyhing more than desperation and it's pathetic, embarrassing and, as fans, completely frustrating to watch
 
The team first posted last night would have won, I'm sure of it.

Once you play players out of position and tinker with tactics that have worked for 4 straight home games, then you're just a deluded old fart.

I read somewhere that most of our attacks stops with Kuyt, and tbh he has been dreadful for a long time. A left winger in a 4-4-2, deary me. And Meireles on the right again, thats just plain stupid.
 
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The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
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maybe it is the gulf in class between our best players and worst players. other teams have a squad of more or less comparable ability, and so that might help them form a cohesive team. but when you have a squad where torres has to play with n'gog. or gerrard has to play with lucas. maybe on paper you take an average and think the team should be top 4. but in reality having such polar extremes doesn't balance somewhere in the middle, rather it just creates imbalance and instability and everything just gets torn to shreds.
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Yeah, I think there's something in that.
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There isn't. One year ago the same players (minus a couple of players) finished 7th (I'd snatch your arm off for that now) and two years ago the same players (minus a couple of players) were beating Manu and real in their back yard, now two seasons on we are the ones getting beat in our back yard by the likes of b'pool, Northampton and wolves. The blame is the manager's. He is fucking SHITE. No way would wolves beat us at home and be outplayed into the bargain with rafa still charge. No way. So that is down to the manager
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in those years torres was alongside gerrard, and mascherano was alongside alonso. carragher was alongside hyypia. thats comparable quality if you ask me
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Roy CHOOSES not to play gerrard with Torres, he had the option. Liverpool finished 7th without alonso. The loss of mash shouldn't be a reason for being 3 points off relegation. Sami wasn't first choice.
Weren't people saying Roy would be able to do better than rafa with limited resources?
 
Perhaps the fans who go to Anfield should be considering shoving these words back down his throat and seeing where it gets us? I include myself in that too.

We pay our money, we make our choice and most of the time the choice has been silence or apathy. I don't agree with the way Roy's made his comments but there is an underlying truth to what he has said surely?

When Benitez was doing badly his "supporters" were hit with, do you support the club or Benitez? So the same question could be asked of us all currently (surely none of us are fans of Roy now, not even DB!!!).

Should we, the people, who go to the game be supporting the team more? I've said in another thread its starting to annoy me when fans of two bob clubs like Wolves come to Anfield with less than their allocation and outsing us throughout.

For me its time we did do our job, but not for Roy, for our team and our club. Its no good being the heralded 12th man when we're two down in Europe, we're needed now. To stop the descent of this club into oblivion. I don't think we need worry about the owners keeping Roy in a job even if we do inspire the team, I think everyone can see he hasn't got what it takes.
 
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The pundits on tv don't know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to the squad strengh and the tools roy has to work with. You mean to tell me the strength of liverpool's squad reflects their position? You mean to tell me the strengh of the squad isn't good enough to beat the worst team in the league at HOME. We are not talking about a breakaway goal we were outplayed for nearly the whole game. Clueless cunts.
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maybe it is the gulf in class between our best players and worst players. other teams have a squad of more or less comparable ability, and so that might help them form a cohesive team. but when you have a squad where torres has to play with n'gog. or gerrard has to play with lucas. maybe on paper you take an average and think the team should be top 4. but in reality having such polar extremes doesn't balance somewhere in the middle, rather it just creates imbalance and instability and everything just gets torn to shreds.
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Yeah, I think there's something in that.
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ha, i read that post by dantes and thought it sounded like half-baked nonsense, although it wasn't really interesting enough to think about much, and then the next post down is 'Squiggles' agreeing with it and i fucking *know* it was bollocks.
 
The best song I heard yesterday was

'How shit must you be
We're winning away"

It was a brief moment of comic relief, as were the substitutions.
 
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The best song I heard yesterday was

'How shit must you be
We're winning away"

It was a brief moment of comic relief, as were the substitutions.
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I was just about to type that. Although some of their fans looked like they were on day release. Do they only have one optician and one style of glasses in Wolverhampton?
 
There will be a bit of a fan reaction on Saturday anyway. That will soon wane off though if the don't give something
to sing about i.e. a bit of pride and passion
 
I'm going to get ripped to the tits on smack and crack and prozac and hope to get ejected for whacking off in woy's general direction.

That is unless anyone else wants my ticket
 
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