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After conceding that Liverpool had produced the worst performance of his six sometimes tortured months as manager, Roy Hodgson argued that he had yet to see "the famous Anfield support".

Sections of the stadium called for Hodgson's dismissal after last night's 1-0 defeat to Wolverhampton Wanderers that left the club three points off a relegation place. There were chants for Kenny Dalglish, who had put himself up as a candidate to replace Rafael Benítez in the summer, and ironic ones of "Hodgson for England".

"Ever since I came here the famous Anfield support hasn't really been there," Hodgson said after a game that ensured Liverpool's worst start to the season since they were relegated in 1953-54.

"There was the problem with the former owners [Tom Hicks and George Gillett] and there was the fact that Kenny was so popular, but the job went to me. I have had to live with that. I have to hope the fans will become supporters because we need support. We are not deliberately losing games. You have seen these players before but they are not playing like they have in the past, so I think it is time for the fans to really help as well.

"It is not for lack of trying that we are not winning matches. Maybe we are lacking quality and confidence, but the negativity doesn't help. The players are not getting on the ball."

Hodgson thought this defeat was Liverpool's worst of the season, worse than the humiliations at the hands of Northampton and Blackpool that had been previous nadirs of his brief reign. "We were hoping for a great performance where we came flying around the pitch and we did the exact opposite," he said. "It was as bad a team performance as we have given. We just didn't have the intensity or tempo in our game to deserve more than we got.

"It was a sad way to end 2010 and a sad way to play the first game for a few weeks in front of our own supporters, when we were anxious to show them we could climb the table."

The chants for Dalglish, who put himself forward to succeed Benítez because he was dismayed by the quality of the shortlist, have dogged Hodgson throughout his time. "I don't like hearing those things. I am trying to do the best job I can and I am working hard. So it is not something I appreciate. But it is not something I can control.

"It's the Kop's way of showing they are not happy with the way the team is playing. As manager, you have to accept responsibility for that. We did have a good spell a while back but it seems a far and distant memory now."
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What has Roy Hodgson done so far to deserve the fan support?

I'm not talking only about winning games. Off the pitch...what has he done to demand the supporters warm up to him?

Respect and love is earned Roy.

You could start with giving stupid interviews and resigning from the job.
 
Oh just fuck off you miserable, inept cunt.

Nobody likes you. Nobody rates you. You're like that kid in primary school who once shat himself; it doesn't matter what you say or do, well always think you're a fucking twat.
 
Perhaps the famous anfield support hasn't been there because you lose a lot and have adopted a weird chip on your shoulder, and an adversarial stance toward the supporters since day one. Fuck off.
 
The divide between Roy and the fans is going to get a little bigger after those comments. You really are on borrowed time if you start to criticise your own fans.
 
That should be the final nail in the coffin really.

Read online that the Kop chanted Hodgson for England, anyone hear that? The papers are running stories about the Kop turning on Hodgson etc.

FSG and Henry have to act. Nothing else will work.
 
Also, i think Hodgson has misunderstood as below

support = no need for accountability.

With the amount of money involved for the stakeholders (Owners paid 350m pound to own the club. Season ticket holders shell out a very sizable amount every year to go and see their local club play football), zero accountability is not possible.

Which other club would have given him more time than he has got?

It has taken half a season for us to boo him. At Newcastle it would have happened in the third game. Inter just fired Rafa Benitez after winning the club world championship, inspite of all the injuries Inter was precisely 7 points adrift of the top of the table, still in the champions league etc etc. He still got the sack. Sam Alardyce and the newcastle manager got the sack for much less. Real Madrid have sacked managers after they won the league. Gerard Houlier is also in the dog house after 1 month....you don't see him coming out and whinging every day, and we know how Houlier likes to whinge.

Roy Hodgson does not have any right to complain about lack of support. He has failed miserably and i don't know a manager who has deserved the sack more than this fella. He has had more than enough support.

This is Liverpool fc, and Roy Hodgson is systematically destroying every bit of pride we have.......please show us some mercy and sack him.
 
Right so now it's the fans fault we're so shit?

Take some responsibility hey Roy.

And just fuck off, I'm losing the will to live. I can't believe I've got tickets to the fulham match. FML.
 
Patience in Roy Hodsgon has run out at alienated Anfield

Tony Evans Football Editor
Last updated December 30 2010 12:10AM

Last night the dissatisfaction that has bubbled beneath the surface at Anfield was given public voice. As Wolverhampton Wanderers added a new level of humiliation to an embarrassing campaign, the Kop sang: “Hodgson for Englandâ€.

That is shocking enough in itself. Nowhere in football has the relationship between manager and fans been turned into such a fetish as at Liverpool.
Bill Shankly created an emotional link between the Boot Room and the terraces that has sometimes been strained — by Graeme Souness and most recently in the fading days of the Rafael Benítez regime — but never broken. Last night it was.

Hodgson inherited a dysfunctional club but was bequeathed a core of talent in Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres and Pepe Reina that Mick McCarthy would kill for. The former Fulham manager was presented as the man who would get the best out of the squad. Instead it got worse.

John W. Henry and New England Sports Ventures, the new owners, have been beyond reproach since arriving at Anfield. Henry admits he knows little about football and is learning the game. His has been a patient and sensible approach aimed at bringing stability.

However, patience is not always rewarded. Hodgson is alienating players, staff members talk disparagingly about his methods and attitude and now the supporters have crossed a line that not long ago would have been unimaginable. Kenny Dalglish, who advised against employing Hodgson, must be seething with frustration.

A manager with four English titles to his credit, he has the charisma and knowledge to bring stability and purpose to a club that lack both. At least in the short term.

Anfield has just emerged from a period of civil war and cannot afford another. Henry needs to listen and act now. Otherwise things will spiral out of control on and off the pitch.
 
I cannot believe he said that. Really I cant. I know I should cos he'd said some fucked up things before, but I really cannot believe he is that fucking naive and ignorant.

I think there's still some part of me that believes him to be a decent old man out of his depth. He's had a decent career, with some bright spots, and he's always seemed amiable enough, but all that respect has been pretty much shredded away. I intensely dislike him. I can't see one positive in him whatsoever, and everytime he opens his mouth to criticise another one of our players I loathe him that touch more.

But to come out after you've been beaten again, this time by the worst team in the league, at home, and to pretty much fucking challenge the support that's ridiculing you by saying they've never really bothered to like you in the first place is disgraceful. Downright disgraceful. He has completely lost it.

The only way he's going to win that back is to resign, which he won't do. We either keep him until the season's end, which is probably the most likely scenario or we start hoping we lose games and NESV sack him.

Rock and a hard place.
 
Oh fuck off Roy. What's the matter - have you run out of players to use as scapegoats ? - because you've been through the whole squad having a pop. So now it's now the fans fault is it ? Fact of the matter is this - it's your fucking fault. It's your job to motivate the players to show some desire and passion and that shite last nigt was the furthest thing imaginable from that. It's your job to win games - you've lost 8 out of 18 league games. It's your job for the team to play decent footy which they're just not doing nor do they look like doing. Fact of the matter is this Roy - you're just not up to the job and no-one wants you here. The famous Anfield support isn't there for two reasons - one because of the shitty insipid lifeless football your team is displaying and two, simply, because people fucking hate you. Now do everyone a favour and fuck off on a very long Saga holiday and as far away from Anfield as possible you doddering old useless twat
 
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Patience in Roy Hodsgon has run out at alienated Anfield

Tony Evans Football Editor
Last updated December 30 2010 12:10AM

Last night the dissatisfaction that has bubbled beneath the surface at Anfield was given public voice. As Wolverhampton Wanderers added a new level of humiliation to an embarrassing campaign, the Kop sang: “Hodgson for Englandâ€.

That is shocking enough in itself. Nowhere in football has the relationship between manager and fans been turned into such a fetish as at Liverpool.
Bill Shankly created an emotional link between the Boot Room and the terraces that has sometimes been strained — by Graeme Souness and most recently in the fading days of the Rafael Benítez regime — but never broken. Last night it was.

Hodgson inherited a dysfunctional club but was bequeathed a core of talent in Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres and Pepe Reina that Mick McCarthy would kill for. The former Fulham manager was presented as the man who would get the best out of the squad. Instead it got worse.

John W. Henry and New England Sports Ventures, the new owners, have been beyond reproach since arriving at Anfield. Henry admits he knows little about football and is learning the game. His has been a patient and sensible approach aimed at bringing stability.

However, patience is not always rewarded. Hodgson is alienating players, staff members talk disparagingly about his methods and attitude and now the supporters have crossed a line that not long ago would have been unimaginable. Kenny Dalglish, who advised against employing Hodgson, must be seething with frustration.

A manager with four English titles to his credit, he has the charisma and knowledge to bring stability and purpose to a club that lack both. At least in the short term.

Anfield has just emerged from a period of civil war and cannot afford another. Henry needs to listen and act now. Otherwise things will spiral out of control on and off the pitch.
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This is excellent. There needs to be a concerted media campaign to get him out.
 
I genuinely think he'll be here until the end of the season. Somebody tell me I'm wrong.
 
Tony Evans is a good red though, as is Barrett. They fucked up a bit with the Huang stories, but they have the clubs best interests at heart.
 
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I genuinely think he'll be here until the end of the season. Somebody tell me I'm wrong.
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No I think you're right unfortunately. If he stays around I worry whether we'll survive in the EPL beyond this season.
 
Tbh, I think that was Henrys plan to begin with. But 5 more months of this shite will make the fans turn on the new owners.

They have to make a statement that this isnt good enough. Roy has to go.

The comments about the fans might tip it actually.
 
'Didn't expect' to win vs Birmingham, and 'happy with the draw'. Puts Poulsen on to "secure the point" against fucking Wigan away. 'Can't expect to win' against Wolves?!

That doesn't even get into him telling the fans the protests weren't helping, or his shitting over youth players, etc. etc. etc.

He's a fucking loser. I can't stand it anymore. He's a fucking eunuch of a manager. Get a fucking clue of what the club is about, and that involves some fucking modicum of swagger. Rafa knew how to speak the language a bit, and he's a reserved spaniard, i.e. a total fucking nutjob. Oh, and I guess it helps when you can win once in a fucking blue moon as well.

We are all about winning, the club is all about winning, NESV is supposedly all about winning.

Which thing does not belong? I know, it's the bejowled, sunken-eyed, wrinkly, eunuch, functionary cunt infesting us with his fucking mediocrity.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=43328.msg1239510#msg1239510 date=1293700888]
I genuinely think he'll be here until the end of the season. Somebody tell me I'm wrong.
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No I think you're right unfortunately. If he stays around I worry whether we'll survive in the EPL beyond this season.
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Actually, no. I think he's gone. Today hopefully
 
Actually, all the Liverpool fans are in full support of his exit.

Can he do it before the countdown tomorrow?
 
This whole thing is such a joke, every single aspect. Like many have said, for the first time in my life i'm considering not watching until he's gone.
 
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The owners are in Boston I'm guessing. They can do it Moratti style, by email..
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They don't even need to emulate such a high profile club, Burnley showed how to do it yesterday:

Chairman Brian Kilby told the Burnley website: "I have telephoned Brian today and asked him to step down as manager of Burnley Football Club."
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Replace the words 'Chairman Brian Kilby' with 'Owner John Henry', 'Burnley' with 'Liverpool' and 'Brian' with Roy' and I think I'd sit here at work creaming in my pants.
 
I honestly think he's trying to get fired with those comments. There's just no way back from here. Hodgson has hated every minute of this job and all he wants is his pay-off. Let's just do it now, and get back to being Liverpool.
 
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I honestly think he's trying to get fired with those comments. There's just no way back from here. Hodgson has hated every minute of this job and all he wants is his pay-off. Let's just do it now, and get back to being Liverpool.

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Honestly I was thinking exactly the same, he knows he's hated and out of his depth, I think he just wants to be put out of his misery and take his pay out
 
Great article on Goal.com, pretty much covers all the pertinent points:

Roy Hodgson finally shows some fight - but hitting out at Liverpool supporters will only hasten his departure

It took six long and sometimes painful months for the Kop to finally rise and sing Roy Hodgson's name. 'Hodgson for England' rang around Anfield, thickly laced with irony, as his Liverpool slumped to defeat against lowly Wolves.

The follow-up blow was just as powerful, the ominous chants of 'Dalglish' seemed to fire out of the stands with venom. The sound might have still been bouncing between Hodgson's ears as he took the opportunity after the game to declare open warfare on the Liverpool fans by rounding on them and questioning their support.

Like a boxer whose legs have gone, Hodgson seemed determined in his post-match press conference to have a few final swings. Unfortunately, attacking the Liverpool support is akin to knocking yourself out by punching yourself in the face.

“Kenny [Dalglish] was a rival for the job and it was given to me,†snapped the 63-year-old. “He's a Liverpool legend but I don't like it.

“We've had to live with negativity ever since I came here. The famous Anfield support has not really been there – there were problems with the owners and they have been singing for Kenny.

"I can only hope these 'fans' become 'supporters' as well because this is a time when the club needs support.â€

If that is his final riposte to Reds fans who have never taken to him, it is suitable that he should go down with a show of passion that has so often been missing in his team.

Hodgson is a better manager than he has shown at Liverpool but his tenure is now at the stage where you simply cannot see how he will be able to turn it around.

John W Henry and Tom Werner, the principle owners of Fenway Sports Group (the rebranded name for New England Sports Ventures or NESV), have talked a good game since their takeover in October. Now they have a decision to make, a decision over whether to bow to popular opinion or to stick by a man they have always claimed to support without reservation.

FSG have taken a strategic and thoughtful approach to their running of the club so far, but they must surely now be considering their options. Rumours have been circulating for a while that he has lost support from a significant portion of the dressing room and his position seems untenable now the crowd don't want him either.

Liverpool finish a dreadful 2010 three points off the relegation zone after defeat against a Wolves side that were bottom of the Premier League when they arrived and have the worst away record in the country.

Hodgson can moan as much as he likes about the lack of quality in the squad he inherited from Rafael Benitez, but there are no excuses for such an abject display from his side. He's had enough time to put together a side that can string a few passes together.

The midfield in particular was disjointed, with Dirk Kuyt on the left and Raul Meireles on the right as Hodgson shuffled his squad to accommodate captain Steven Gerrard on his return after six weeks out through injury.

But it didn't work, and the manager was left a lonely, isolated figure on the touchline long before the final whistle as the abuse from the stands ratcheted up a notch with every misplaced pass or mistimed tackle. The decision to replace David Ngog with Ryan Babel on the hour mark was greeted with a chorus of boos while the awful Paul Konchesky was cheered off the pitch as if he had just scored a goal.

Liverpool made just one chance in the 90 minutes, an opportunity squandered in the first half by Meireles when he lacked the composure to direct the ball past Wayne Hennessey, the Wolves goalkeeper.

The hosts thought they were level late on when Martin Skrtel headed home – but the fact that no fewer than five Liverpool players were offside highlighted just how out of sync they were on a desperate night as the Mersey mist swirled around Anfield.

No movement, no fight, no skill, no tactics, no defence – you can see why the locals are getting a bit peeved.

You can also see why Fernando Torres has looked such a miserable figure this season, but on the evidence of this campaign the Reds are probably better off cashing in on the Spanish striker. His dire performances have reflected the general malaise of the club as a whole.

Sylvain Marveaux, the Rennes winger, was a guest in the directors box and is on the verge of signing in a deal believed to be worth around £1.5m, but this was so bad he couldn't be blamed for changing his mind about a switch to Merseyside.

The jeers at the final whistle were delivered with as much emotion as the minute's applause before kick-off for Avi Cohen and Bill Jones, two former players who died this week. After the game, supporters were at pains the point out that the boos were for Hodgson far more than they were for the players.

Liverpool now sit 12th in the league and it will take some serious investment in the January transfer window to salvage anything from this season.

Henry admitted in November that the culture surrounding transfers in football is a "completely different system to what we are used to". He and the rest of FSG better learn fast the importance of allowing Hodgson an influence in January, because Liverpool need three or four players of genuine quality.

He also better learn about how manager's work – because the likes of Kenny Dalglish, Didier Deschamps and Owen Coyle would all queue up to take Hodgson's job and on current evidence would do a better job.

The Reds have won just one league game on the road this season, but it has been horror home defeats by Northampton, Blackpool and now Wolves that have defined their woeful season.

It is those performances that prompted to Kop to turn on Hodgson on Tuesday night, to which he responded by questioning the famous Liverpool support.

He will probably be in charge against Bolton at the weekend, when another defeat would surely signal the end of his tenure.

For furious fans, that moment can't come soon enough.
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The fucking sheer affrontery of the cunt. All he's done since he's been here is slag off players, ex-managers and now the fans. It's always someone elses fault and not once, has he had the class or dignity to stand up and say that he's failing at the very job he's paid to do. Fuck off Roy you classless bellend
 
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