Christ. You can see how the line of questioning was intended to get you to talk about drunkenness. Even the way the form is set out supposes a number of incriminating things about the Liverpool fans on the day.
Hillsborough: Searching For The Truth
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Thanks for sharing that Peter. Truly harrowing.
Hear hear.
I was listening to Floyd this morning and this came up with this to celebrate recent events. Some fella on RAWK came up with the design.
http://s18.postimage.org/493fxhxgp/We_climbed_the_hill.png
http://s18.postimage.org/493fxhxgp/We_climbed_the_hill.png
Love it
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RT@TimesCrime West Yorkshire chief constable Sir Norman Bettison to retire in wake of Hillsborough report
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I fucking hate that.
Yes, we acknowledge that you helped orchestrate the biggest cover up in British history. As a result we want you to retire on a fucking massive pension.
Yes, we acknowledge that you helped orchestrate the biggest cover up in British history. As a result we want you to retire on a fucking massive pension.
Exactly, a very cosy little move to protect his pension no doubt. Just like Duckinfield.
Insult to injury.
Fucking disgrace.
david bartlett (@davidbartlett1) tweeted at 8:24 AM on Sat, Oct 06, 2012:
Merseyside taxpayers will pay Norman Bettison's £88k pension when he retires in March http://t.co/B5A0qlXu
(https://twitter.com/davidbartlett1/status/254482228107694080)
Fucking disgrace.
david bartlett (@davidbartlett1) tweeted at 8:24 AM on Sat, Oct 06, 2012:
Merseyside taxpayers will pay Norman Bettison's £88k pension when he retires in March http://t.co/B5A0qlXu
(https://twitter.com/davidbartlett1/status/254482228107694080)
SIR NORMAN BETTISON’S pension will be paid by Merseyside taxpayers – “rubbing more salt in the wounds” of Hillsborough families.
The ECHO can also reveal he was handed a £60,000 pay rise by his bosses in West Yorkshire when Merseyside Police refused to pay his pension in 2007. His £225,000 salary in West Yorkshire makes him one of the best paid police chiefs in the country. He has earned more than £1m since taking the job on the other side of the Pennines. But when he retires in March – a decision announced on Thursday having effectively being forced out after revelations in the Hillsborough Independent Panel report – his pension will have to be paid by Merseyside Police.
Mr Bettison was chief constable of Merseyside between 1998 and 2004, and will be entitled to an annual pension estimated at £88,000 – two thirds of his £134,000 salary when he left.
Merseyside Police Authority chairman Cllr Bill Weightman said the force had no choice – but if convicted of any crime in relation to the Hillsborough disaster an application could be made to the Home Office to strip Mr Bettison of 65% of his pension.
Margaret Aspinall, chair of Hillsborough Family Support Group, said: “This is a disgrace, the more and more I hear, the more I am shocked.” Sheila Coleman, of the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, said: “Talk about rubbing salt in the wounds. “The families have paid a high price in their pursuit of the truth, Mr Bettison is just paid a high price.”
Mr Bettison denies any wrongdoing, but said his planned retirement in March will allow the Independent Police Complaints Commission to carry out their investigation into his conduct. His contract was due to run until 2015, but West Yorkshire Police authority effectively lost confidence in Mr Bettison after the panel highlighted his role in the aftermath of the 1989 disaster.
Mr Bettison left Merseyside in 2004 to become chief executive of Centrex, the private company responsible for training the country’s fledgling officers, and became entitled to an annual pension estimated at £88,000.
But when in January 2007 he returned to regular policing as Chief Constable of West Yorkshire, on a salary of £153,000, Merseyside police refused to pay his pension.
This sparked a legal battle with Mr Bettison as he attempted to secure a pay-and-pension deal of about £240,000. After threatening to take Merseyside Police to the High Court to secure his pension payments, he backed down when it became clear he could not win. In May 2007 West Yorkshire Police Authority made a “locally agreed package” with Mr Bettison and gave him a £60,000 pay rise. During his time at West Yorkshire Mr Bettison has not been entitled to accrue any more pension entitlements.
Merseyside Police Authority chairman Cllr Bill Weightman revealed that Mr Bettison was forced into a retreat in his fight with the authority over his pension. “He threatened us with a judicial review. We had the backing of the Home Office so he backed down. “There is no doubt we would have won and it would have been very expensive for him.”
Cllr Weightman said Merseyside would become responsible for paying his pension once more when he retires in March. But he said whoever becomes Merseyside’s first Police and Crime Commissioner in November (an election that will see the end of the police authority) should look at docking his pension if Mr Bettison is ever found guilty of a crime in relation to Hillsborough. “The commissioner will be able to apply for an order to take away 65% of his pension if that happened.”
Cllr Weightman became chairman of Merseyside Police Authority in 2004, months before Mr Bettison’s departure. He added: “I never liked him. He had a style which was ‘I am chief constable and I do what I want to do’. It was a constant fight.”
The ECHO can also reveal he was handed a £60,000 pay rise by his bosses in West Yorkshire when Merseyside Police refused to pay his pension in 2007. His £225,000 salary in West Yorkshire makes him one of the best paid police chiefs in the country. He has earned more than £1m since taking the job on the other side of the Pennines. But when he retires in March – a decision announced on Thursday having effectively being forced out after revelations in the Hillsborough Independent Panel report – his pension will have to be paid by Merseyside Police.
Mr Bettison was chief constable of Merseyside between 1998 and 2004, and will be entitled to an annual pension estimated at £88,000 – two thirds of his £134,000 salary when he left.
Merseyside Police Authority chairman Cllr Bill Weightman said the force had no choice – but if convicted of any crime in relation to the Hillsborough disaster an application could be made to the Home Office to strip Mr Bettison of 65% of his pension.
Margaret Aspinall, chair of Hillsborough Family Support Group, said: “This is a disgrace, the more and more I hear, the more I am shocked.” Sheila Coleman, of the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, said: “Talk about rubbing salt in the wounds. “The families have paid a high price in their pursuit of the truth, Mr Bettison is just paid a high price.”
Mr Bettison denies any wrongdoing, but said his planned retirement in March will allow the Independent Police Complaints Commission to carry out their investigation into his conduct. His contract was due to run until 2015, but West Yorkshire Police authority effectively lost confidence in Mr Bettison after the panel highlighted his role in the aftermath of the 1989 disaster.
Mr Bettison left Merseyside in 2004 to become chief executive of Centrex, the private company responsible for training the country’s fledgling officers, and became entitled to an annual pension estimated at £88,000.
But when in January 2007 he returned to regular policing as Chief Constable of West Yorkshire, on a salary of £153,000, Merseyside police refused to pay his pension.
This sparked a legal battle with Mr Bettison as he attempted to secure a pay-and-pension deal of about £240,000. After threatening to take Merseyside Police to the High Court to secure his pension payments, he backed down when it became clear he could not win. In May 2007 West Yorkshire Police Authority made a “locally agreed package” with Mr Bettison and gave him a £60,000 pay rise. During his time at West Yorkshire Mr Bettison has not been entitled to accrue any more pension entitlements.
Merseyside Police Authority chairman Cllr Bill Weightman revealed that Mr Bettison was forced into a retreat in his fight with the authority over his pension. “He threatened us with a judicial review. We had the backing of the Home Office so he backed down. “There is no doubt we would have won and it would have been very expensive for him.”
Cllr Weightman said Merseyside would become responsible for paying his pension once more when he retires in March. But he said whoever becomes Merseyside’s first Police and Crime Commissioner in November (an election that will see the end of the police authority) should look at docking his pension if Mr Bettison is ever found guilty of a crime in relation to Hillsborough. “The commissioner will be able to apply for an order to take away 65% of his pension if that happened.”
Cllr Weightman became chairman of Merseyside Police Authority in 2004, months before Mr Bettison’s departure. He added: “I never liked him. He had a style which was ‘I am chief constable and I do what I want to do’. It was a constant fight.”
DPP will consider manslaughter. IPCC will consider criminal charges. Manslaughter, perverting course of justice, perjury and misconduct in public office all to be considered. Biggest ever investigation into police in UK. Wiil consider WYP and SYP. Bettison will be investigated.
Their decision can be read here: http://t.co/9Fq2zSc4
My God. At last!
the early lie by Chief Superintendent Duckenfield about the gate being forced open, which was corrected by the Chief Constable that evening. This was investigated by the West Midlands Police under the supervision of our predecessor, the Police Complaints Authority. As such, while the IPCC deplores such dishonesty, we are legally prevented from investigating this issue further, and it therefore will not be investigated;
But they are gunning for him in his overall role within Hillsborough though which is good. I have a feeling he is going to be hung out to dry. Which sits fine with me.
I had gnawing feeling that this will get brushed under the carpet as has been the case in the past. With the findings of the inquiry now out in the open and the rats all scurrying for the exits - It will be the last rat who swings. Anyway someone is going to take the fall that's for sure.
And it will be Bettison. His response to the publication of the report has been widely criticised, and this has been referred by the IPCC to his home authority, West Yorkshire.
The IPCC are equally scathing of him in the report above too. He is being isolated and is isolating himself. Time to finish this cunt off, once and for all.
Love it mate, superb. Get some tshirts done, profits for the Hillsborough organisations. I'd buy one !
I'm not about to defend Bettison, not for a minute. However, he was an Inspector at the time, not a Chief Constable, and had to have been acting under instructions, so who's getting away scot-free out of this?
Give a fuck. He's climbed the ladder on it and is as uncompromising now as he was then. He was only too happy to go along with this. Let him rot.
I agree mate though I would like to see whoever was even more culpable than Bettison brought to justice as well
My point exactly, count.
There's a petition to postpone Bettison's retirement here:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/39775
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/39775
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