Hillsborough: Searching For The Truth
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For any government figure to come out with such an apology, the evidence HAS to be compelling. Anyone who denies what happen and where the responsibilities lie now is fooling nobody but themselves.
Steven Gerrard statement
The following statement has been issued on behalf of Steven Gerrard:
The courage and dignity shown by the Hillsborough families and survivors is an example to all of us.For 23 years they have fought for truth and justice on behalf of the victims and survivors of this terrible tragedy and all Liverpool supporters.
Victims and survivors suffered not just on April 15, 1989 in Sheffield, but for over two decades afterwards with the shameful slandering of their actions by people who abused their position and power.
Speaking as someone whose family directly suffered, I know the pain and hurt will remain.
However, I hope that today's report helps bring some comfort, now that everyone knows what happened on that day.
STEVEN GERRARD
Mackenzie just got slaughtered on Talksport & Adrian Durham claims Mackenzie wanted to sack him after he went on air about Hillsborough & said it wasn't Liverpool fans fault but he stopped from sacking him by others around him.
Proves the cunts attitude about this.
Proves the cunts attitude about this.
Mario Balotelli @M_arioBalotelli
“@WayneRooney: Everyone involved in the cover up of hillborough is a disgrace and need punished” Horrific grammar or not, Shrek's right.
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Yet he gave exclusive interviews to scum rag.
Thick cunt.
Thick cunt.
Very damning isn't it ?
I'm not sure whether it'd be a good thing or not if the BBC stop employing MacKenzie now. It's been so blindingly obvious for so long now that he's evil that to act now would be pretty damn hypocritical. Still, as long as people don't recognise any principle in it, it can't hurt.
Today, the families of the 96 should be extremely proud of themselves. The way they have conducted themselves with such dignity throughout this ordeal and over 23 years is beyond my comprehension. I am simply in awe of them. Hopefully those that are still searching find peace.....
Justice can now be served.
Justice can now be served.
Been reading about this all morning and read through this thread earlier but didn't post because I was afraid I'd post something overly emotional, which is how I was feeling. I only say 'overly' because despite being a Liverpool fan since the late 70s, and watching this on TV as a teenager, and then learning more about it years later primarily through the internet, I don't understand why this makes me so emotional because unlike some of you I wasn't there and I'm not from Liverpool. But it makes me very emotional, and weirdly embarrassed, because I don't understand why I have any right to get so emotional and then I feel a bit creepy and wonder what's wrong with me because nothing happened to me and this isn't my tragedy. I can't imagine how I'd be if I was in the same position as some of you, or was even from the effected community.
But there it is, it makes me emotional and I guess it does the same for plenty of others.
I've been thinking about it today though and it struck me that there are things, big things that happen during your life. Things that don't happen to you directly but that are defining narratives, stories that run alongside your own story and that without knowing it, you soak up and become part of how you see the world, or your country, or power or authority or whatever. I think knowing that gets me a bit closer to understanding why today mean something to many, many people who had no personal pain or tragedy on that terrible day.
The experience of those directly affected is on an entirely different level of course, and I'll say it again in case anyone misunderstands. But I think to varying degrees, we are unlucky to have lived through and witnessed this whether from near or far, unlucky to have been around to see innocent ordinary people dying like that and then to see their reputations brutalized by virtually all the institutions from which they were entitled to get respect and protection. We saw our world at its chaotic, unjust and painful worst and all of this has played a part in shaping the way many of us feel about police, judges, government...
But today I also realized that I'm lucky to have been around to see, once again from afar, an amazing 23 year battle between extraordinarily powerful (and corrupt) agents of authority, and loving, grieving families - being won by the families. Because of them, and those who have been unwavering in their support, the long-running story that has been with many of us for most of our lives seems to be, against all odds, ending with truth and justice on the winning side. These are families like my family and yours, and this is what love and solidarity can do. So I'm honored to have witnessed their struggle, priveleged to have seen their dignity, and in their debt for what they have shown me about the best of people.
YNWA
But there it is, it makes me emotional and I guess it does the same for plenty of others.
I've been thinking about it today though and it struck me that there are things, big things that happen during your life. Things that don't happen to you directly but that are defining narratives, stories that run alongside your own story and that without knowing it, you soak up and become part of how you see the world, or your country, or power or authority or whatever. I think knowing that gets me a bit closer to understanding why today mean something to many, many people who had no personal pain or tragedy on that terrible day.
The experience of those directly affected is on an entirely different level of course, and I'll say it again in case anyone misunderstands. But I think to varying degrees, we are unlucky to have lived through and witnessed this whether from near or far, unlucky to have been around to see innocent ordinary people dying like that and then to see their reputations brutalized by virtually all the institutions from which they were entitled to get respect and protection. We saw our world at its chaotic, unjust and painful worst and all of this has played a part in shaping the way many of us feel about police, judges, government...
But today I also realized that I'm lucky to have been around to see, once again from afar, an amazing 23 year battle between extraordinarily powerful (and corrupt) agents of authority, and loving, grieving families - being won by the families. Because of them, and those who have been unwavering in their support, the long-running story that has been with many of us for most of our lives seems to be, against all odds, ending with truth and justice on the winning side. These are families like my family and yours, and this is what love and solidarity can do. So I'm honored to have witnessed their struggle, priveleged to have seen their dignity, and in their debt for what they have shown me about the best of people.
YNWA
Yep it's absolutely disgusting. More so that it's taken so long for this to be released.
How have people sat on this for 23 years?
Outstand post, Gene.
I too have felt that way, many times in the past 23 years... That I don't 'deserve' to feel as torn up about it as I do, that I'm offending those who actually lost somebody that day by feeling like I do, as only an onlooker.
I understand exactly what you mean, and I echo every word.
I too have felt that way, many times in the past 23 years... That I don't 'deserve' to feel as torn up about it as I do, that I'm offending those who actually lost somebody that day by feeling like I do, as only an onlooker.
I understand exactly what you mean, and I echo every word.
Yep. Me too.
Well said Gene, and I can understand where you're coming from, despite only being a stones throw away.
One of many outstanding contributions on this subject today and real indictment of the quality of posters here and, as is often suggested, a fan that knows his shit, as we're renowned for.
One of many outstanding contributions on this subject today and real indictment of the quality of posters here and, as is often suggested, a fan that knows his shit, as we're renowned for.
That is an absolutely superb post Gene.
There have been a few posts that captures how I felt today but none more so than yours.
Not being from Liverpool, and not knowing any one bar posters on here directly effected by Hillsborough, I don't feel I have a right to feel so emotional today.
I fear it may be deemed as a faux emotion but the upset feels very real to me.
I have been close to tears all of today.
I cannot begin to imagine what all of you who have been touched by this, either by being their, losing someone or simply having lived through the lies for the last twenty three years have gone through today.
Not to mention those incredible people who campaigned for justice for their loved ones all this time. Words escape me.
You all can be very very proud.
I hope from today onwards you can find some peace.
There have been a few posts that captures how I felt today but none more so than yours.
Not being from Liverpool, and not knowing any one bar posters on here directly effected by Hillsborough, I don't feel I have a right to feel so emotional today.
I fear it may be deemed as a faux emotion but the upset feels very real to me.
I have been close to tears all of today.
I cannot begin to imagine what all of you who have been touched by this, either by being their, losing someone or simply having lived through the lies for the last twenty three years have gone through today.
Not to mention those incredible people who campaigned for justice for their loved ones all this time. Words escape me.
You all can be very very proud.
I hope from today onwards you can find some peace.
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