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"He's better than I thought he'd be"

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OMG - this can't be happening !!!! I cannot possibly be wrong about the potential of this guy could I ? - NO !!! This is a big mistake.
 
Like with Carroll, the money is gone. There is no point sweating over it anymore - we've done it to death and then some. The important thing is that Downing is removed from our consciousness and we can begin to forget he ever existed.

I dunno, I find it hard to be as laissez-faire about this whole thing as you.

We fucked away the biggest heap of money we've ever had (and are likely to come even close to having for another 5 years) on complete spastics. It's set us back years.
 
That Kenny quote about Downing disgusted me tbh.

A player we signed in the summer for £20m who was meant to provide us with a cutting edge in the final third by way of assists, goals and all round good play who has been a total flop from day one, who shits out of challenges and thinks hes the dogs bollocks in the process with shitty comments in the media blaming everybody but himself for his woeful displays in a Liverpool shirt.

There's a difference between trying to drum a bit of confidence into a big money signing and insulting the fans with such tripe.
 
That Kenny quote about Downing disgusted me tbh..

Ridiculous. He was trying to pick up a player who's so weak mentally that when the press complained about how average Stuart Little was, he couldn't get out of bed for a week. Daglish was trying to motivate him and show he faith. It failed. It happens. You don't think Rodgers has done the same thing with him? He's tried, and he's also failed.

He wasn't trying to insult the fans. To even assume he was is pathetic.
 
I don't get why Hansern get grief for initially wanting Downing? Why stick the knife in, we all wanted Downing to succeed. He hasn't, let's be pissed off but no need to throw it in the face of someone on the internet who supported him.

I'm angry at Downing not Hansern from the internets.
 
I suggested Mullins could play for England due to his good form for West Ham at the time.

You thought 55 million pounds on Carroll and Downing was wonderful.

There's a fucking difference mate.

I didnt think it was wonderful. The money spent was crazy, but I thought the players were good. Thats true.
I seem to remember a list you made last season about players to watch out for, some like Somen Tchoi turned out to be shocking. So, as I said, everyone fucks up once in a while.
 
I don't get why Hansern get grief for initially wanting Downing? Why stick the knife in, we all wanted Downing to succeed. He hasn't, let's be pissed off but no need to throw it in the face of someone on the internet who supported him.

I'm angry at Downing not Hansern from the internets.

Thanks mate 🙂
 
Ridiculous. He was trying to pick up a player who's so weak mentally that when the press complained about how average Stuart Little was, he couldn't get out of bed for a week. Daglish was trying to motivate him and show he faith. It failed. It happens. You don't think Rodgers has done the same thing with him? He's tried, and he's also failed.

He wasn't trying to insult the fans. To even assume he was is pathetic.

Aye, especially as he'd already insulted the fans enough by paying 20M for the useless cunt in the first place.
 
Aye, especially as he'd already insulted the fans enough by paying 20M for the useless cunt in the first place.

I know most managers don't make mistakes, so let's go and slam him non-stop because that's exactly what he deserves.
 
Don't want to accuse anyone in particular, but if someone wants a certain player and berates others who say that he's shit, he deserves to be reminded of it.
 
That Kenny quote about Downing disgusted me tbh.

A player we signed in the summer for £20m who was meant to provide us with a cutting edge in the final third by way of assists, goals and all round good play who has been a total flop from day one, who shits out of challenges and thinks hes the dogs bollocks in the process with shitty comments in the media blaming everybody but himself for his woeful displays in a Liverpool shirt.

There's a difference between trying to drum a bit of confidence into a big money signing and insulting the fans with such tripe.

Actually no. In the first few games he had for us, I was pleasantly surprised. Downing looked sharp and creative, even though he didn't produce any end product even then. Somehow, it all went downhill quickly and just when you thought he hit the rock bottom, there was more room to fall. I think at some point we will look back at the whole saga (can't wait!) and realize that this is part of the price clubs pay for managerial and ownership uncertainty. I don't mean to defend Downing at all, but you rarely see this kind of player free-fall at a well-functioning club. Multiple managerial changes and radical shifts in football philosophy of a team test all players and those prone to self-doubt or those who can can't adapt to different models.

That's another reason why continuity is a smart strategy, there is much less chance of catastrophic and costly transfer mistakes. The main reason why we've made so many of them recently is precisely because of the ownership and managerial turbulence of the past few years.
 
Actually no. In the first few games he had for us, I was pleasantly surprised. Downing looked sharp and creative, even though he didn't produce any end product even then. Somehow, it all went downhill quickly and just when you thought he hit the rock bottom, there was more room to fall. I think at some point we will look back at the whole saga (can't wait!) and realize that this is part of the price clubs pay for managerial and ownership uncertainty. I don't mean to defend Downing at all, but you rarely see this kind of player free-fall at a well-functioning club. Multiple managerial changes and radical shifts in football philosophy of a team test all players and those prone to self-doubt or those who can can't adapt to different models.

That's another reason why continuity is a smart strategy, there is much less chance of catastrophic and costly transfer mistakes. The main reason why we've made so many of them recently is precisely because of the ownership and managerial turbulence of the past few years.

Excellent post.
 
I dunno, I find it hard to be as laissez-faire about this whole thing as you.

We fucked away the biggest heap of money we've ever had (and are likely to come even close to having for another 5 years) on complete spastics. It's set us back years.

Yeah, we did set ourselves back massively but it's done now - what can we do?

The best thing we can do is to move on and that starts with shifting the likes of Downing and Cole out of the club asap.
 
Surely not....



Arsenal set to make £10million swoop for Downing

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is ready to make a shock £10million move for Liverpool's out-of-favour winger Stewart Downing in the January transfer window.

Wenger was outbid by Liverpool when he wanted to sign Downing in 2011 as a replacement for Samir Nasri and now believes he can rescue his career after the England international's torrid time at Anfield.

Current Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers does not want Downing, who has lost form and confidence since his £20m switch to Merseyside.

But Wenger is convinced he has the technical ability to fit in at Arsenal and would provide balance to his team on the left flank.

Downing can also play left-back, which has been Arsenal's problem position this season.

Capped 34 times, Downing was hailed as a new Kop hero when signed by Kenny Dalglish following an electric spell with Aston Villa.

But he failed to contribute a Premier League goal or assist in his first season and has been publicly criticised by Rodgers for a lack of work-rate in the current campaign.

Liverpool may try to use Arsenal's interest as currency to land Theo Walcott, who only has six months left on his contract at the Emirates.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2237965/Arsenal-set-make-10m-swoop-Liverpool-flop-Stewart-Downing.html
 
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