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The suspicion being that it is the same infection as before but now in a different part of his leg which screams off medical fuck up to me.... Give him the right fucking treatment this time!

If there is no muscle tear how the fuck will it be six weeks?? That's one slow acting anti-biotic
 
[quote author=Woland link=topic=47340.msg1419754#msg1419754 date=1320050218]
And this is why you shouldn't sell Ming.
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Especially when he's warming the bench for Chelsea on Saturday.
 
But Meireles wanted to go, didn't he? Because it is so difficult to enforce a player's contractual obligations (see Tevez) the best a club management can do when a player announces that he wants out, is to do the best deal available at the time.
 
[quote author=Woland link=topic=47340.msg1419754#msg1419754 date=1320050218]
And this is why you shouldn't sell Ming.
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When Gerrard was injured at he start of the season, Meireles still wasn't getting in the team.

I appreciate you have a thing for Ming, but our manager didn't. Therefore selling him for what we got, at his age, when he was not really in the managers plans doesn't bother me in the slightest.
 
MODRICH !

Buuuuuuut....Neil say:

"As soon a a player doesn't want to blah blah blah"
 
Re: Re: Gerrard injured?

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47340.msg1419773#msg1419773 date=1320053447]
[quote author=Woland link=topic=47340.msg1419754#msg1419754 date=1320050218]
And this is why you shouldn't sell Ming.
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When Gerrard was injured at he start of the season, Meireles still wasn't getting in the team.

I appreciate you have a thing for Ming, but our manager didn't. Therefore selling him for what we got, at his age, when he was not really in the managers plans doesn't bother me in the slightest.
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Completely agree.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47340.msg1419773#msg1419773 date=1320053447]
[quote author=Woland link=topic=47340.msg1419754#msg1419754 date=1320050218]
And this is why you shouldn't sell Ming.
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When Gerrard was injured at he start of the season, Meireles still wasn't getting in the team.

I appreciate you have a thing for Ming, but our manager didn't. Therefore selling him for what we got, at his age, when he was not really in the managers plans doesn't bother me in the slightest.
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Yet it does bother you when players are played who clearly are in the managers plans.
 
Where did you read about the 6 weeks Dylan? The story seem to be we'll know more in 48 hours, as he might have to go back to hospital again. Strange injury.
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47340.msg1419768#msg1419768 date=1320052448]
[quote author=Woland link=topic=47340.msg1419754#msg1419754 date=1320050218]
And this is why you shouldn't sell Ming.
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Especially when he's warming the bench for Chelsea on Saturday.
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And they got beat. That's what happened to us last season.
 
http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1214660-liverpool-fc-set-to-lose-steven-gerrard-for-up-to-two-months.html

Steven Gerrard faces the prospect of another lengthy lay-off as his injury nightmare continues.

The Liverpool captain could be out of action for up to two months after suffering an infection which flared up his right ankle on the eve of his side's trip to West Bromwich Albion.

Gerrard came through last weekend's 1-1 draw with Norwich unscathed but missed the Reds' win at the Hawthorns on Saturday night due to recovering from surgery in hospital.

As a result, he faces a potential four weeks on the sidelines before he can return to training as he bids to put his career back on track after an injury-hit six months.

Gerrard has spent large parts of 2011 struggling with a groin problem which required two rounds of corrective surgery before an infection sidelined him for an additional two months.

Concerns that his playing career will be brought to a premature end, at the age of 31, have resurfaced with Gerrard himself previously admitting that he also feared the worst.

Since he was declared fit to play in late September, he had made five appearances for Liverpool and marked his first of just two starts, notably against Manchester United.

Kenny Dalglish revealed on Saturday that he does not have a timescale for the influential midfielder's return nor that of Jamie Carragher, who strained his calf at Stoke in midweek.
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[quote author=Woland link=topic=47340.msg1419848#msg1419848 date=1320060532]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47340.msg1419768#msg1419768 date=1320052448]
[quote author=Woland link=topic=47340.msg1419754#msg1419754 date=1320050218]
And this is why you shouldn't sell Ming.
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Especially when he's warming the bench for Chelsea on Saturday.
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And they got beat. That's what happened to us last season.
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I missed the first part of last season - how often did we win with this super hero in our line up?

He wouldnt' have made a difference for Chelsea against the Gooners - defensive work was never his strong point ... Maybe an extra goal though.
 
We effectively swapped Ming for Adam, now the common consensus on Ming was that his worst attribute was a reluctance to put in a tackle and generally being a bit soft despite his obvious passing and goal scoring quality. Adam on the other hand is so slow that he is in no danger of shirking a tackle because his opposing player could easily beat him for pace by jogging. Anybody who thinks Mereiles wouldnt be a useful asset to have right now is nuts, and as for the "you cant keep a player who wants to leave" theory it has been disproved many times, Modric is currently doing it, ronaldo was the best player in the league for two years despite begging to go to Madrid every summer and Fabregas was Arsenals best player even though he demanded a move to Barca every 6 months like clockwork

Clearly Kenny sees something in Adam and didnt with Ming, so be it, but Adam cannot replace Gerrard, Ming did was head and shoulders our best midfielder when asked to perform the same job
 
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=47340.msg1419890#msg1419890 date=1320063937]
We effectively swapped Ming for Adam, now the common consensus on Ming was that his worst attribute was a reluctance to put in a tackle and generally being a bit soft despite his obvious passing and goal scoring quality. Adam on the other hand is so slow that he is in no danger of shirking a tackle because his opposing player could easily beat him for pace by jogging. Anybody who thinks Mereiles wouldnt be a useful asset to have right now is nuts, and as for the "you cant keep a player who wants to leave" theory it has been disproved many times, Modric is currently doing it, ronaldo was the best player in the league for two years despite begging to go to Madrid every summer and Fabregas was Arsenals best player even though he demanded a move to Barca every 6 months like clockwork

Clearly Kenny sees something in Adam and didnt with Ming, so be it, but Adam cannot replace Gerrard, Ming did was head and shoulders our best midfielder when asked to perform the same job
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Great post.

Agree with the comments that it probably wouldn't make much difference for us as Kenny, for some reason, didn't seem to see his value despite using him very well in the 2nd half of last season. None of this changes the fact that he was (and probably still would be) one of our best midfielders.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47340.msg1419931#msg1419931 date=1320066123]
In the league 1 goal, 4 assists.

i.e. more than Meireles
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Bolton and the penalty saturday make it two goals for adam ross. Still more than Meireles mind!
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47340.msg1419931#msg1419931 date=1320066123]
In the league 1 goal, 4 assists.

i.e. more than Meireles
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2 league goals...
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=47340.msg1419931#msg1419931 date=1320066123]
How many goals and assists does Adam have so far? Just curious like?

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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47340.msg1419931#msg1419931 date=1320066123]
In the league 1 goal, 4 assists.

i.e. more than Meireles
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In how many appearances?

Just curious like.
 
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=47340.msg1419890#msg1419890 date=1320063937]
We effectively swapped Ming for Adam, now the common consensus on Ming was that his worst attribute was a reluctance to put in a tackle and generally being a bit soft despite his obvious passing and goal scoring quality. Adam on the other hand is so slow that he is in no danger of shirking a tackle because his opposing player could easily beat him for pace by jogging. Anybody who thinks Mereiles wouldnt be a useful asset to have right now is nuts, and as for the "you cant keep a player who wants to leave" theory it has been disproved many times, Modric is currently doing it, ronaldo was the best player in the league for two years despite begging to go to Madrid every summer and Fabregas was Arsenals best player even though he demanded a move to Barca every 6 months like clockwork

Clearly Kenny sees something in Adam and didnt with Ming, so be it, but Adam cannot replace Gerrard, Ming did was head and shoulders our best midfielder when asked to perform the same job
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I have no problem with most of this post - Would I rather have Ming? Yes.

My issues are:

1) goal scoring quality? He had a fantastic stretch (5 in 6 I think) and that was all his goals for the yaer. Sorry, that's not goal scoring quality - and his track record, as far as I remember, for Porto and Portugal echos similar stats.

2) Your comparisons of disgruntled players who are the best player on their respective teams, who are paid very well and were guaranteed 1st team minutes. Meirless, with all due respect, was not paid well (I don't know what the story is with his raise - our fault, his - whatever) and wasn't in Kenny's 1st 11 plans this year. That means he could very well have become a problem ...

Still wish he was an option to have ... But again, I think we'll be fine without him and won't regret this move long term (short term - we haven't yet, and hopefully won't either)
 
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47340.msg1419943#msg1419943 date=1320066566]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=47340.msg1419931#msg1419931 date=1320066123]
How many goals and assists does Adam have so far? Just curious like?

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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47340.msg1419931#msg1419931 date=1320066123]
In the league 1 goal, 4 assists.

i.e. more than Meireles
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In how many appearances?

Just curious like.
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10 apps Wiz.
 
I think some of our best stuff last season involved ming....

We now do not own him.

forget about it.

Lets just hope Gerrard doesnt need 4 to 6 weeks for an infection, lets double hope that its not a kind of infection which will repeat again and again.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47340.msg1419931#msg1419931 date=1320066123]
In the league 1 goal, 4 assists.

i.e. more than Meireles
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Hasnt he got 2 goals? Bolton and WBA.
 
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six weeks? how about the one day it would take to infect lucas with the same bacteria. wait a couple more days/minutes for lucas' body to generate antibodies. perform a blood transfusion and the infection is dead.
 
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=47340.msg1420110#msg1420110 date=1320086544]
six weeks? how about the one day it would take to infect lucas with the same bacteria. wait a couple more days/minutes for lucas' body to generate antibodies. perform a blood transfusion and the infection is dead.
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Harder bones than Wolverine and the same healing factor. In fact, he's not 24 at all he's 112.
 
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