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Red Sox have just won their fourth world series in 15 years. Remarkable turn around for a team which had the moniker of perennial losers with no world series wins in 86 years.

This year's Red Sox team have set records - most wins ever by a baseball team in regular and postseason. Don't watch baseball, but according to friends who do, this years time is in the all-time great territory.

Looks like our owners know how to run their franchises, at least the American ones.

In recent time, the last two years, they seem to show signs of getting the hang of football also. Got their key appointments spot on and have backed them.
 
peekay said:
Red Sox have just won their fourth world series in 15 years. Remarkable turn around for a team which had the moniker of perennial losers with no world series wins in 86 years.

This year's Red Sox team have set records - most wins ever by a baseball team in regular and postseason. Don't watch baseball, but according to friends who do, this years time is in the all-time great territory.

Looks like our owners know how to run their franchises, at least the American ones.

In recent time, the last two years, they seem to show signs of getting the hang of football also. Got their key appointments spot on and have backed them.
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Have to agree with that...but they have been very fortunate in having a manager like Klopp. I think they talk from the same page. The only worry i suspect is how long will they tolerate the not winning any trophies for ?
 
moron said:
Have to agree with that...but they have been very fortunate in having a manager like Klopp. I think they talk from the same page. The only worry i suspect is how long will they tolerate the not winning any trophies for ?
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Given they are sports fanatics themselves, I don't think they are oblivious to improvements and also to the wider context of City being one of the greatest teams of many generations.
 
Fabio said:
It's not fortunate. They interviewed him, they hired him.
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It is a bit fortunate, the timing was fortunate, the "fit" was fortunate, and the lack of opportunities at other clubs was also fortunate.

I said it at the time, and I stand by it, FSG should thank their lucky fucking stars that they got a manager as good a fit and highly-rated as Jurgen Klopp. We hadn't had a manager of that stature and reputation since Benitez.

The last managers they had was the doomed Hodgson, a club legend who hadn't managed for over a decade and the Ex-Swansea manager, who couldn't believe his fucking luck.
 
gene hughes said:
Baseball is not boring.
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Baseball is so boring that it is the only sport in the world that is actually enhanced by the extensive use of statistics, tables and data.

Americans love sports that have lots of numbers and esoteric terminology attached to every aspect of it, and baseball is the worst. This is why no Americans can come up with any witty chants or salty abuse from the crowd, but instead you get fat nerds shouting:

"Hey Everett! You suck! Yeah, your OPB is so low-key! It's total ass, man" while masturbating over a dog-eared book on sabremetrics.
 
The use of stats is crucial to American culture in general, given that objective reasoning is anathema, so even in a visual pastime such as sport, it is almost impossible for an average American to ascertain quality, or how good anything is, without being able to refer to a litany of stat-based data and words like "MVP".

This phenomenon is also evident in entertainment (box office figures, number one albums, sales figures), the arts (20 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list!) and also politics (wars started and lost/won, number of libs "owned" etc)
 
manwithnoname said:
The use of stats is crucial to American culture in general, given that objective reasoning is anathema, so even in a visual pastime such as sport, it is almost impossible for an average American to ascertain quality, or how good anything is, without being able to refer to a litany of stat-based data and words like "MVP".

This phenomenon is also evident in entertainment (box office figures, number one albums, sales figures), the arts (20 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list!) and also politics (wars started and lost/won, number of libs "owned" etc)
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I also found this when I first went to the US. In 4 weeks I think I had about 5 or 6 adult men come up to me to 'guess' my height and weight.

"Hey man, you must be 195 and 200 pounds?"

You can tell they spent their whole summer analysing height and weights of players for their fantasy football!
 
This sort of bile has spread into the wider economy, it seems nobody can take a decision these days without consulting a data scientist. And they're not even fucking scientists.
 
I went to see the Dodgers once, it was fucking awful and a waste of 3 hours of my life. Fuck baseball.
 
Judge Jules said:
Quite. It's been said, tho' with how much accuracy I don't know, that they wanted to appoint him from the off but he wouldn't break his contract with Dortmund.
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Who wouldn't have wanted to appoint him? Hardly being footballing visionaries.

These are the same geniuses who interviewed fucking Martinez and offered De Boer the job before Rodgers took it.
 
manwithnoname said:
Baseball is so boring that it is the only sport in the world that is actually enhanced by the extensive use of statistics, tables and data.

Americans love sports that have lots of numbers and esoteric terminology attached to every aspect of it, and baseball is the worst. This is why no Americans can come up with any witty chants or salty abuse from the crowd, but instead you get fat nerds shouting:

"Hey Everett! You suck! Yeah, your OPB is so low-key! It's total ass, man" while masturbating over a dog-eared book on sabremetrics.
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You been to the US? Attended many sporting events there?

Just curious. I am not a US citizen but have lived here for 16 years and have been to several sporting events across multiple sports, I have never experienced anything close to what you are posting in this thread.
 
You really don’t need to be that into the stats and data to love baseball. There’s a lot of levels to how different people enjoy it. You go to games and it’s very evident that loads of people are paying little or no attention to the game at all. It’s just a kind of social ritual.
 
gene hughes said:
You really don’t need to be that into the stats and data to love baseball. There’s a lot of levels to how different people enjoy it. You go to games and it’s very evident that loads of people are paying little or no attention to the game at all. It’s just a kind of social ritual.
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Yeah, that was the impression I got from my only baseball game visit. The game seemed rather incidental to eating and having beers in the stadium.

But that's understandable if you live in Bumfuck Illinois, this was in New York. Not like there isn't plenty of other stuff to do there.
 
manwithnoname said:
Yeah, that was the impression I got from my only baseball game visit. The game seemed rather incidental to eating and having beers in the stadium.

But that's understandable if you live in Bumfuck Illinois, this was in New York. Not like there isn't plenty of other stuff to do there.
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Isn't Bumfuck in Oklahoma?
 
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