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Frank Rijkaard almost certain to be the next Liverpool manager-unrelaible source

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normally I wouldn't particularly bother with reports like this but it references Riijkaard's agent saying he wants to manager Liverpool and Dutch media reports of meetings between the two sides having already taken place. Anyone here anything about this?




Reports are starting to come in that Frank Rijkaard is almost certain to replace Roy Hodgson as the next Liverpool manager.

Money has flooded in to some bookies in recent days and now William Hill go massive odds on that Rijkaard will be named as the next manager at Anfield.

Money forces prices down and there is no way that Hills would have such short odds unless significant money had been placed on Rijkaard, add this to the comments from Rijkaard’s agent about managing Liverpool and some reports in the Dutch media that meetings have already taken place and you have a scenario building that has the writing on the wall for current manager Roy Hodgson.

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Another factor is that the new owners will be loathe to give a manager money to spend in the January transfer window if they are going to let him go and despite improved performances in recent weeks Liverpool still find themselves stuck mid table.

The end game for Hodgson now looks to be in play and with the bookies, media and agents all more or less stating that Rijkaard is to be the next Liverpool manager it does appear that it is now just a matter of time.
 
He's a 'big name' in his own right but I've got serious doubts about his managerial capabilities. Doesn't fill me with confidence. 🙁
 
He's young, ambitious and has already been part of the rebuilding process for a massive club, winning some huge trophies during his time at Barca. His time in Turkey is slightly concerning though.

Deschamps would still be my preferred choice.
 
Yes but "almost certain" from an unreliable source is a bit of a stretch isnt it.

Im not shooting the messenger here and thanks for the info Count. Anything that gives hope is worth reading in these times.
 
Agreed. The odds seem to have changed because of the money that's gone on this happening, not because the bookies know something we don't, but like you I'll take any crumb of optimism going.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=43010.msg1226623#msg1226623 date=1291129338]
His time in Turkey is slightly concerning though.[/quote]

Exactly. They're like our mirror image in the Turkish league, esp this season.

Not trying to belittle his achievement with Barcelona but his managerial record other than his time in Nou Camp isn't inspiring. The fact that his much heralded assistant, Henk ten Cate's career has been on the down since leaving Barca isn't coincidental too. After relegation with Sparta Rotterdam in his 1st club management job, he was really lucky to get the Barca job subsequently.
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=43010.msg1226623#msg1226623 date=1291129338]
His time in Turkey is slightly concerning though.[/quote]

Exactly. They're like our mirror image in the Turkish league, esp this season.

Not trying to belittle his achievement with Barcelona but his managerial record other than his time in Nou Camp isn't inspiring. The fact that his much heralded assistant, Henk ten Cate's career has been on the down since leaving Barca isn't coincidental too. After relegation with Sparta Rotterdam in his 1st club management job, he was really lucky to get the Barca job subsequently.
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Quite. The prospect of hiring Ten Cate worries me even more than that of hiring Rijkaard, particularly after his time with the Chavs.
 
Depsite his shortcomings in the turkish league i'd taking him over Hodgson anyday of the week..

Proven winner, with a winning mentality...
 
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[quote author=Binny link=topic=43010.msg1226635#msg1226635 date=1291129797]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=43010.msg1226623#msg1226623 date=1291129338]
His time in Turkey is slightly concerning though.[/quote]

Exactly. They're like our mirror image in the Turkish league, esp this season.

Not trying to belittle his achievement with Barcelona but his managerial record other than his time in Nou Camp isn't inspiring. The fact that his much heralded assistant, Henk ten Cate's career has been on the down since leaving Barca isn't coincidental too. After relegation with Sparta Rotterdam in his 1st club management job, he was really lucky to get the Barca job subsequently.
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Quite. The prospect of hiring Ten Cate worries me even more than that of hiring Rijkaard, particularly after his time with the Chavs.
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Earning big bucks in Dubai now. 😛

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2006–2007 Ajax
2007–2008 Chelsea (assistant)
2008–2009 Panathinaikos
2010 Al-Ahli Dubai
2010- Umm Salal
 
Ten Cate is one of the biggest twats in the game. Do not want him anywhere near Liverpool.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43010.msg1226645#msg1226645 date=1291130096]
isn't 'almost certain' a contridiction in terms? it is either 'certain' or it isn't.
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I think you are wrong there Neil. In fact Im almost certain of it.
 
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=43010.msg1226628#msg1226628 date=1291129581]
Yes but "almost certain" from an unreliable source is a bit of a stretch isnt it.

Im not shooting the messenger here and thanks for the info Count. Anything that gives hope is worth reading in these times.
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It wasn't so much the article itself that interested me Jack, more the referencing of Dutch media reports and agent's alledged comments making me think that it may have some truth in it.

I was hoping someone else may have heard more of them.
 
Ha, I'm always weary of articles claiming so and so is odds on for whatever to the then having adverts to said bookmakers planted slap bang in the middle of the piece.

I'd be excited if this came through*

*disappointed that roy didn't get until the summer though
 
Is the excitement stemming from an 'anyone but Roy' perspective?

I wonder how long it will be before we have a manager who is as good as Rafa again. I don't think Frank fits that bill.
 
Re: Frank Rijkaard almost certain to be the next Liverpool manager-unrelaible so

Anyone but Roy is a factor of course but if we were to go for FR that would at least show a certain degree of ambition. He's a big name who has managed at the highest level.
If it was purely anyone but Roy we'd even be excited to be linked with Mick McCarthy or Fat Sam. I doubt that would be the case would it?
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=43010.msg1226641#msg1226641 date=1291129922]
Weren't we also unbackable favourites to sign Ribbery for 36 hours in the past 18 months as well?
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We were indeed.
The bookies stopped taking bets on Rafa to be given the sack the week we beat Real away too.
He signed a five year deal a week or so later.
It's all bullshit.
 
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[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=43010.msg1226628#msg1226628 date=1291129581]
Yes but "almost certain" from an unreliable source is a bit of a stretch isnt it.

Im not shooting the messenger here and thanks for the info Count. Anything that gives hope is worth reading in these times.
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It wasn't so much the article itself that interested me Jack, more the referencing of Dutch media reports and agent's alledged comments making me think that it may have some truth in it.

I was hoping someone else may have heard more of them.
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Where are these alleged comments?

I have major reservations about Rijkaard.
 
I believe the bookies create fake markets by slashing prices, giving the impression that "something" is happening and generating buzz.
Cue punters betting big on the "favourite" in the false belief they are betting on a sure thing.
 
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[quote author=the count link=topic=43010.msg1226659#msg1226659 date=1291130655]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=43010.msg1226628#msg1226628 date=1291129581]
Yes but "almost certain" from an unreliable source is a bit of a stretch isnt it.

Im not shooting the messenger here and thanks for the info Count. Anything that gives hope is worth reading in these times.
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It wasn't so much the article itself that interested me Jack, more the referencing of Dutch media reports and agent's alledged comments making me think that it may have some truth in it.

I was hoping someone else may have heard more of them.
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Where are these alleged comments?

I have major reservations about Rijkaard.

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That is what I was asking too Bunny
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=43010.msg1226687#msg1226687 date=1291132810]
Anyone but Roy is a factor of course but if we were to go for FR that would at least show a certain degree of ambition. He's a big name who has managed at the highest level.
If it was purely anyone but Roy we'd even be excited to be linked with Mick McCarthy or Fat Sam. I doubt that would be the case would it?

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Yeah, you're right.

I think I was asking because it's kinda the way I feel. Excited about the possibility of the change, but not that excited about the candidate.
 
I definitely don't feel optimistic because he's not Roy..

Holland played phenomenal football under him at Euro 2000, prior to which he learnt his trade under most peoples wet dream of Hiddink.

He turned Barce around, ok I know they were hardly shit beforehand but definitely vastly improved them..

His trophy cabinet isn't too shabby either..

As player
Ajax
Dutch League
1982, 1983, 1985, 1994, 1995
Dutch Super Cup
1993, 1994
KNVB Cup
1983, 1986, 1987
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
1987
UEFA Champions League
1995
Milan
Italian League 1992, 1993
Italian Super Cup 1988, 1992
European Cup 1989, 1990
European Super Cup 1989, 1990
Intercontinental Cup 1989, 1990
Netherlands:
UEFA European Football Championship
1988
As manager
Barcelona
UEFA Champions League
2005/06
La Liga
2004/2005, 2005/06
Supercopa de España
2005, 2006
Netherlands
UEFA Euro 2000
Semi-finalist
Individual
Dutch Footballer of the Year: 1985, 1987
Serie A: Best foreign player 1992
Guerin d'Oro: 1992
UEFA Manager of the Year: 2005–06
UEFA Team of the Year for Best Coach of the Year : 2006
IFFHS World's Best Club Coach: 2006
Onze d'Or Coach of the Year: 2006
Don Balón Award Coach of the Year in La Liga: 2005, 2006
 
So he's been managing clubs for nearly 10 years, and has had two succesful years in all that time. I'd say it is a little shabby.
 
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43010.msg1226723#msg1226723 date=1291137223]
So he's been managing clubs for nearly 10 years, and has had two succesful years in all that time. I'd say it is a little shabby.
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so the criteria for the new manager is shit loads of success?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43010.msg1226727#msg1226727 date=1291137850]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43010.msg1226723#msg1226723 date=1291137223]
So he's been managing clubs for nearly 10 years, and has had two succesful years in all that time. I'd say it is a little shabby.
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so the criteria for the new manager is shit loads of success?
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Well, I don't think we should be looking at trying to get in an unsuccesful manager.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43010.msg1226727#msg1226727 date=1291137850]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=43010.msg1226723#msg1226723 date=1291137223]
So he's been managing clubs for nearly 10 years, and has had two succesful years in all that time. I'd say it is a little shabby.
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so the criteria for the new manager is shit loads of success?
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Yes please.
 
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