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Fabio

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My love of the game is in doubt.

For a sport of such beauty at times, it's now become so muddied I can't even see why I like it.

I haven't lived through the times of our peak, or when football was about FOOTBALL... It's now handshake stories, managers sticking their oar in other clubs business, public crucifixtions, twitter gossip, high cost average englishmen, 'arry, death of loyalty, success or death, and countless other depressing things.

What's the point?

I've thought the game was in disrepair for fucking ages but this us the first time where I've found myself doubting the club itself. What the hell has happened? It makes me want to bin off english football and focus anywhere else. Where the player is king and the press don't dictate the game.

It makes me want to find another sport, so I can at least have an outlet where I'm not continually frustrated.
 
I'm fucked off Suarez didn't bite that cunt Evra's neck.

And how come none of our so called fans blew themselves up with a tactical nuke in that swamp?
 
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[quote author=Woland link=topic=48647.msg1#msg1 date=1328981337]
I'm fucked off Suarez didn't bite that cunt Evra's neck.

And how come none of our so called fans blew themselves up with a tactical nuke in that swamp?
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I think if suarez did that it would have saved my love of the game
 
i care way less than i used to. it was slightly disquieting at first, but since then i've realised the only perceptible difference it makes is that i don't get annoyed when we lose anymore, so, really, it's all good maaaaan.
 
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[quote author=peterhague link=topic=48647.msg1#msg1 date=1328981721]
i care way less than i used to. it was slightly disquieting at first, but since then i've realised the only perceptible difference it makes is that i don't get annoyed when we lose anymore, so, really, it's all good maaaaan.
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Normally don't mind if we lost if we deserve to.

I'm just getting fed up with the entire industry and the club set up as a whole
 
I actually believe that given Ferguscums latest comments about our club after todays game, I wouldn't be surprised if he is carrying out a secret campaign to drive Suarez out of our club and out of the country. I firmly believe that Suarez is probably if not the best player - then one of the top three players in this league. Us selling Torres to one of our rivals last year significantly made us weak in the eyes of the other big clubs - we should never have have sold him to Chelsea coz it sent a signal to all other clubs. With an aging SG no longer able to drive us as he did before - we need more than a couple of above average players to give us a title challenging chance and to get us into a top four position. We don't have a backer with so many billions even though he is rich and a the CL money is a lifeline for our future development. The ban on Suarez may have dented us in many ways that we do not realize - we may have won games that we drew while he was out and as a result we may not get a CL position. I was desperate for us to win against Spurs on Monday night only because I knew that we had a good chance of loosing today and we did. I think the best news today is that Chelsea lost today - it keeps us still in the race coz I know that the teams above will lose a few more games - as for Spurs screwing it up - I think we can forget any hope of that. I am pretty certain that had Torres stayed and played with Suarez - we would be a seroiusly strong force in this league.
 
Saw this on BBC

Here's what Sir Alex Ferguson had to say about Suarez: "I couldn't believe Suarez refused Evra's handshake. Suarez is a disgrace to Liverpool football club. He should not be allowed to play for Liverpool again, the history of that club. He could have caused a riot. Racism is an important issue and football has come a long way since the days of bananas being thrown at John Barnes. Evra shouldn't have jumped in front of Suarez in celebration at the end. He shouldn't have done that."

For the first time ever I completely agree with the twat.
 
[quote author=Dee link=topic=48647.msg1481274#msg1481274 date=1328983469]
Saw this on BBC

Here's what Sir Alex Ferguson had to say about Suarez: "I couldn't believe Suarez refused Evra's handshake. Suarez is a disgrace to Liverpool football club. He should not be allowed to play for Liverpool again, the history of that club. He could have caused a riot. Racism is an important issue and football has come a long way since the days of bananas being thrown at John Barnes. Evra shouldn't have jumped in front of Suarez in celebration at the end. He shouldn't have done that."

For the first time ever I completely agree with the twat.
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[quote author=Piedro link=topic=48647.msg1481301#msg1481301 date=1328986272]
You won't be wanting that wembley ticket then will you kid?
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BOOM
 
[quote author=Leon link=topic=48647.msg1481305#msg1481305 date=1328986961]
Mario Ballotelli
If I was in Suarez shoes and got banned for 8 games for something I didn't do,I wouldn't shake his hand either#
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That's probably from Balotteli's fact twitter account.
 
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=48647.msg1481306#msg1481306 date=1328987022]
[quote author=Leon link=topic=48647.msg1481305#msg1481305 date=1328986961]
Mario Ballotelli
If I was in Suarez shoes and got banned for 8 games for something I didn't do,I wouldn't shake his hand either#
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That's probably from Balotteli's fact twitter account.
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Yeah it looks fake but fuck it
 
[quote author=Leon link=topic=48647.msg1481308#msg1481308 date=1328987137]
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=48647.msg1481306#msg1481306 date=1328987022]
[quote author=Leon link=topic=48647.msg1481305#msg1481305 date=1328986961]
Mario Ballotelli
If I was in Suarez shoes and got banned for 8 games for something I didn't do,I wouldn't shake his hand either#
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That's probably from Balotelli's fact twitter account.
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Yeah it looks fake but fuck it
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[quote author=Bradley link=topic=48647.msg1#msg1 date=1328986419]
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=48647.msg1481301#msg1481301 date=1328986272]
You won't be wanting that wembley ticket then will you kid?
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BOOM
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I said in doubt, not gone!
 
[quote author=moron link=topic=48647.msg1481271#msg1481271 date=1328983213]
I actually believe that given Ferguscums latest comments about our club after todays game, I wouldn't be surprised if he is carrying out a secret campaign to drive Suarez out of our club and out of the country. I firmly believe that Suarez is probably if not the best player - then one of the top three players in this league. Us selling Torres to one of our rivals last year significantly made us weak in the eyes of the other big clubs - we should never have have sold him to Chelsea coz it sent a signal to all other clubs. With an aging SG no longer able to drive us as he did before - we need more than a couple of above average players to give us a title challenging chance and to get us into a top four position. We don't have a backer with so many billions even though he is rich and a the CL money is a lifeline for our future development. The ban on Suarez may have dented us in many ways that we do not realize - we may have won games that we drew while he was out and as a result we may not get a CL position. I was desperate for us to win against Spurs on Monday night only because I knew that we had a good chance of loosing today and we did. I think the best news today is that Chelsea lost today - it keeps us still in the race coz I know that the teams above will lose a few more games - as for Spurs screwing it up - I think we can forget any hope of that. I am pretty certain that had Torres stayed and played with Suarez - we would be a seroiusly strong force in this league.
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Really? I would.
 
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[quote author=mom link=topic=48647.msg1#msg1 date=1329000482]
[quote author=moron link=topic=48647.msg1481271#msg1481271 date=1328983213]
I actually believe that given Ferguscums latest comments about our club after todays game, I wouldn't be surprised if he is carrying out a secret campaign to drive Suarez out of our club and out of the country. I firmly believe that Suarez is probably if not the best player - then one of the top three players in this league. Us selling Torres to one of our rivals last year significantly made us weak in the eyes of the other big clubs - we should never have have sold him to Chelsea coz it sent a signal to all other clubs. With an aging SG no longer able to drive us as he did before - we need more than a couple of above average players to give us a title challenging chance and to get us into a top four position. We don't have a backer with so many billions even though he is rich and a the CL money is a lifeline for our future development. The ban on Suarez may have dented us in many ways that we do not realize - we may have won games that we drew while he was out and as a result we may not get a CL position. I was desperate for us to win against Spurs on Monday night only because I knew that we had a good chance of loosing today and we did. I think the best news today is that Chelsea lost today - it keeps us still in the race coz I know that the teams above will lose a few more games - as for Spurs screwing it up - I think we can forget any hope of that. I am pretty certain that had Torres stayed and played with Suarez - we would be a seroiusly strong force in this league.
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Really? I would.
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Quite

It's hardly secret is it?
 
The secret is not that he wants him out becuase he thinks Suarez is given Liverpool a bad reputation - the secret is he wants him out because Suarez is the type of player we have been missing for so so long - someone who regularly can unlock defences - the only reason we have not been geetting our just returns when he has been playing is becuase the rest of the team is just too f*cking slow to support him up front.
 
after the previous years of shite we have had with the cowboy owners , high court cases ,hodgson , shite on field play ....i really wanted a quiet season just about the football and hoped we'd progress well and maybe surprise a few people . But it's turned out cock with again most the talk about off field crap . And then to make it worse on the field hasn't been much better bar the cup run , money wasted and missed chances to really progress have wrecked my head .

So i really need this league cup win and then more cause right now i want this season over .
 
good rule of thumb for watching football and especially watching liverpool;

when you win you aren't the best team in the world and equally when you lose you aren't the worst.

I guess the same principle could be applied to a footballer after a MOTM performance or a stinker.
 
NY Times is now running an article telling Henry and co to fix the broken image ... It's unreal how big an issue this has become.
 
interesting to see if the owners do step in here ....they might not care too much about what british based media say about them but if they are getting shite from US based ones i can't imagine they will like it . It has the potential to really damage their image there , concern Red Sox fans ant then influence others from investing in their business , signing with NESN like LeBron James did etc etc .
 
[quote author=RedZeppelin link=topic=48647.msg1481547#msg1481547 date=1329044425]
interesting to see if the owners do step in here ....they might not care too much about what british based media say about them but if they are getting shite from US based ones i can't imagine they will like it . It has the potential to really damage their image there , concern Red Sox fans ant then influence others from investing in their business , signing with NESN like LeBron James did etc etc .
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It's worldwide in the media now
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48647.msg1481587#msg1481587 date=1329048694]
[quote author=RedZeppelin link=topic=48647.msg1481547#msg1481547 date=1329044425]
interesting to see if the owners do step in here ....they might not care too much about what british based media say about them but if they are getting shite from US based ones i can't imagine they will like it . It has the potential to really damage their image there , concern Red Sox fans ant then influence others from investing in their business , signing with NESN like LeBron James did etc etc .
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It's worldwide in the media now
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Come on Ross ... the US isn't 'worldwide'! 🙂
 
I was kidding mate ... It's not rocket science - Any newspaper reporting the result, the 'biggest' clash of every year (despite it really not being that), is going to mention this.

Now the key is to turn the publicity into $s and positive publicity.
 
There are tons of racists in the world. The club would probably be better marketing itself to this niche if it wants a real USP.
 
Fabio is right. We spend more time discussing the business of football than the football itself these days. Couple this with fans who see nothing positive in he club at all it all makes for depressing times .
 
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