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He's 21, but yeah, time is on his side. I think he needs to play more regularly.
Wish we could get this league chip off our back so people wouldn't be so up tight about rotation.
 
I think that Liverpool players are playing with a heavy burden on their shoulders. We're always supposed to win the league. That's been the mantra for 26 years. Same goes for the managers.
My point is, if that burden is lifted on the manager maybe he won't think twice before starting Alexander-Arnold at right back if Clyne isn't 100% fit or something similar.
We're obviously not in Europe this season so there's not too many games at the moment but those young players need significant time on the pitch if they're going to make it.
 
I think that Liverpool players are playing with a heavy burden on their shoulders. We're always supposed to win the league. That's been the mantra for 26 years. Same goes for the managers.
My point is, if that burden is lifted on the manager maybe he won't think twice before starting Alexander-Arnold at right back if Clyne isn't 100% fit or something similar.
We're obviously not in Europe this season so there's not too many games at the moment but those young players need significant time on the pitch if they're going to make it.

I don't think anyone thinks we're supposed to win the league, and I doubt that has anything to do with klopp's relucatnce or otherwise to rotate.
 
We dont need to rotate when we play once a week.
Ironically we've got our strongest squad in many-a-year thus rotating the squad would be less of an issue. Rotation doesn't work if you're including players like Aspas, Lucas, Lambert, Assaidi, Shelvey, Spearing, Downing etc but when you have at least 16 or 17 quality players then rotation can help keep everyone fit and at their peak.
 
He's a talented player, playing well and working really hard.

I don't like hm as the lead striker at the expense of the Sturridge and prefer him in the supporting role. I think we're a more dangerous side with Firmino, Mane and Sturridge as a front three with Wijnaldum making way, especially against lower league opposition.

--------------------Henderson-------------------
-------Lallana------------------Coutinho------
----Mane---------Sturridge----------Firmino--------

This. This with fucking great bells on.
 
Yeah, obviously. But only if we could be sure that Sturridge was the Sturridge of 2013-2014 vintage. And could stay fit.
Indeed...and where I think we agree is if he isn't, then Firmino isn't the answer. Nor is Origi yet but I have high hopes for that lad. I suppose what I'm saying is Firmino should never be the central striker and when Sturridge isn't fit, I'd turn to Ings for the time being.
 
Indeed...and where I think we agree is if he isn't, then Firmino isn't the answer. Nor is Origi yet but I have high hopes for that lad. I suppose what I'm saying is Firmino should never be the central striker and when Sturridge isn't fit, I'd turn to Ings for the time being.

Well, at the moment if Sturridge isn't going to be (or capable of being) that striker, then it HAS to be Firmino really.

Unless Origi shows some amazing improvement, or, as you say, Ings comes to the fore. I quite liked what little I saw of him at Burnley and LFc, but again, is he more of a wide/ support striker? Would he be prolific and enough of a focal point to play the central lone striker? I dunno.

I suppose this is why I was keen for us to buy one.
 
Unless Origi shows some amazing improvement, or, as you say, Ings comes to the fore. I quite liked what little I saw of him at Burnley and LFc, but again, is he more of a wide/ support striker? Would he be prolific and enough of a focal point to play the central lone striker? I dunno.
But that's why I think Ings would fit perfectly into a Klopp side. He's industrious, versatile and, irrespective of the smoke being blown up Firmino's arse, a better finisher. Sturridge should be first choice but if / when he's knackered again replace him with Ings accepting that what we lose (slightly) in finishing prowess we gain in industry. Firmino should always be one of the wide / supporting strikers.
 
I don't think anyone thinks we're supposed to win the league, and I doubt that has anything to do with klopp's relucatnce or otherwise to rotate.
Actually MANY LFC supporters EXPECT to win the league. The day we stop is the day we actually are a mid table team. Dont bother quoting last season or the season before positions. The point being we are expected to challenge.
 
Ings seems taylor-made for that fluid system that requires front players to be part striker, part AM or winger and full-time defender and presser. I was doubting where we need him at the beginning of the season, but with Sturridge yet to get on the scoresheet in the league and Origi looking sluggish so far (typical of young players who go through many ups and downs in their development), while Ings is banging in goals at the U23 level, there is a growing case for giving him a chance to show what he can do.
 
Actually MANY LFC supporters EXPECT to win the league. The day we stop is the day we actually are a mid table team. Dont bother quoting last season or the season before positions. The point being we are expected to challenge.
No one does.

Unless they a deeeeeek'ed
 
No one does.

Unless they a deeeeeek'ed

Actually most do - season starts - they expect to win the league. However, I have realized that there is a lot of doubt and non-expectation that is now public among many of the people on this site. I am too tired tonight but I think someone on here should start a thread:-

'When did you stop believing... - we could challenge for the title ?'

Oncey - please start it when you are off the drink a little and/or not measuring the size of your cock.

Cheers,
MORON
 
Actually most do - season starts - they expect to win the league. However, I have realized that there is a lot of doubt and non-expectation that is now public among many of the people on this site. I am too tired tonight but I think someone on here should start a thread:-

'When did you stop believing... - we could challenge for the title ?'

Oncey - please start it when you are off the drink a little and/or not measuring the size of your cock.

Cheers,
MORON
I dont drink.
And awesome and magical is not a measurement.
 
I have no problem admitting I've said from the off that he would be a boss signing, because he's a great player.
I was banging on about him a year before we signed him and was shocked and delighted when we did.
I still can't believe there wasn't more interest and we signed him virtually unopposed. He was ace in the BL and has been pure class here .... with much more in the tank to come I expect.
 
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