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I guess the lack of post-game threads filled with kneejerk, rage, and bollocks are as a result of most people recognising we were wildly unlucky, yes?

If not unlucky, then unfortunate anyway.

We played well. Even with our best team available, we don't go away in Europe and dominate teams. To quote a Rafaism it's about 'controlling the game' which we we did for 89 minutes. We were the betetr side, we were more composed, we had a far better shape and structure than Lyon (who sole way of attacking seemed to be firing it quickly up to Gomis and hoping eh could do something with it until the rest of that ageing midfield caught up with him), and we had the best chances. 3 in the first half, 2 of which (Kuyt and Torres' efforts) were half-chances, the other a fucking sitter for Voronin. Similarly to Aurelio's header at Anfield, he fired it straight at the keeper. Well Andriy, you're fast running out of chances now you bag of Eastern-European dogshite; if you're gonna sit and pull the long face cos N'gog managed to come on against United ahead of you, then you've gotta be damn sure you can produce likewise when it's your opportunity. Tonight would have been a good place to start.

I thought a few performances were good - Reina, Lucas, Torres, Kygriakos, and one was outstanding in Mascherano. Hostile away games in Europe like that are what he's made for, and Christ he was everywhere. I thought we owend the game in midfield, our passing was crisper and more incisive, and but for better finishing - Voronin, and to a lesser extent - Lucas, the game could have been over earlier.

Our problem this season (leaving injuries aside) is that we're not finishing teams off. We should have buried Villa at Anfield before they got back into it, similarly these two games against Lyon. Good, actuallyt great chances dropping in the box and we're not able to put them away. Which leaves us susceptible to a fucking shitty late goal, the like of which we've conceded far too many of. Conversely, last season we were the ones riding our late luck and scoring them, this year we're on the receiving end. We're not an altogethor worse side than last year, we're just an out-of-form unluckier one.

Still, I thought we were playing a bit too deep. I can see why I suppose, a semi-fit Agger, and a slow triumverate in Insua, Kygriakos, and Carra. Not only did it leave us open to pressing and pressure, it occassionally left us with nowhere to go when we won it - Hence Agger's vast vast amount of nothing passes. The goal could and should have been avoided though, Babel and Insua's efforts to win the ball in the air weren't good enough, Kygriakos got too tight to Ederson (or whomever the fuck it was) and Agger got rolled. Shitty errors, but against decent sides in Europe, you get crunched for them.

A draw was unfair, we were the better team, did more to try to win, and deserved the three points. If we fail to qualify, we can point the finger more at the Lyon result at home, and the Fiorentina one away than tonight. That said, we had it in our hands at the Stade Gerland tonight, and contrived to through it away. Been the story of the season really.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979373#msg979373 date=1257373664]
I guess the lack of post-game threads filled with kneejerk, rage, and bollocks are as a result of most people recognising we were wildly unlucky, yes?[/quote]

I'm too disappointed to be angry. You wrote a good post but this loss could be devastating for the future of our team - financially and player wise. I just hope the football gods show some mercy on us this weekend.
 
A draw away at Lyon is a decent result. We should not have lost at Anfield that was a very very bad result. We were horribly shite against Fiorentina.

We are 5 points behind the team in second place.Even if we do beat them they will still be 2 points ahead and will play a team that has already qualified to the final round.

I think Champions League is out of our reach now. But i do think we will take 6 points from the remaining two games, but it will not be enough.
 
I feel numb.
I dont think I have ever had higher hopes for a season, then 2.5 months after the first kick of the ball it is over.

Make me dream again Liverpool FC, it is all I ask.
 
I don't think we'll see a mass exodus because of being knocked out of the Champions' League Avvy. Hopefully it will embarrass the useless cunts into pulling their socks up.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979382#msg979382 date=1257373959]
I don't think we'll see a mass exodus because of being knocked out of the Champions' League Avvy. Hopefully it will embarrass the useless cunts into pulling their socks up.
[/quote]

Agreed. We're not Leeds.
 
we didnt do enough in the 2nd half

we paid the price for 80 minutes of passing it sideways and backwards dozens of times

The game was classically drifting to 0-0 until Babel popped up with a wonder goal. Lyon then put our defence under a bit of pressure and it crumbled to get an equaliser

The end.

We absolutely deserved the draw and i've no complaints.
 
I don't agree with luck. You have chances, you take them. Unless a beachball intervenes or there is an outrageous decision then you're never unlucky.
 
Good post Ryan. I agree with a lot of it, but I think like LTW has said, most people feel too dejected at this point, it's hard to understand these results. In isolation you can accept 'misfortune' or 'unlucky' but when it's a run like the one we're on, it's hard to see the way out right now.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979384#msg979384 date=1257374028]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979382#msg979382 date=1257373959]
I don't think we'll see a mass exodus because of being knocked out of the Champions' League Avvy. Hopefully it will embarrass the useless cunts into pulling their socks up.
[/quote]

Agreed. We're not Leeds.
[/quote]

It's funny you say that because in a lot of ways we resemble Leeds

they're trying to sell Babel and replace him with no one to pay Reina's wages, that's an example of the mess we're in

I know Babel is shit but tonight shows he can be of some use, to sell him and replace him with nothing is madness of the highest order especially after doing the same with Keane last year. It is a Leeds like situation.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979373#msg979373 date=1257373664]
I guess the lack of post-game threads filled with kneejerk, rage, and bollocks are as a result of most people recognising we were wildly unlucky, yes?[/quote]

I'm too disappointed to be angry. You wrote a good post but this loss could be devastating for the future of our team - financially and player wise. I just hope the football gods show some mercy on us this weekend.
[/quote]

This much we know. We are out of another challenge. Leaving us with FA and E Cups.

How depressing. How much more bad runs can we stomach...
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979384#msg979384 date=1257374028]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979382#msg979382 date=1257373959]
I don't think we'll see a mass exodus because of being knocked out of the Champions' League Avvy. Hopefully it will embarrass the useless cunts into pulling their socks up.
[/quote]

Agreed. We're not Leeds.
[/quote]

It's funny you say that because in a lot of ways we resemble Leeds

they're trying to sell Babel and replace him with no one to pay Reina's wages, that's an example of the mess we're in

[/quote]

What are you basing this on?
 
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=36949.msg979379#msg979379 date=1257373857]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979373#msg979373 date=1257373664]
I guess the lack of post-game threads filled with kneejerk, rage, and bollocks are as a result of most people recognising we were wildly unlucky, yes?[/quote]

I'm too disappointed to be angry. You wrote a good post but this loss could be devastating for the future of our team - financially and player wise. I just hope the football gods show some mercy on us this weekend.
[/quote]

This much we know. We are out of another challenge. Leaving us with FA and E Cups.

How depressing. How much more bad runs can we stomach...
[/quote]

We ARE still in with a shout of the league Y. If anything, being knocked out tonight has reinforced my belief that we'll turn it round in the Premiership.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979399#msg979399 date=1257374698]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36949.msg979395#msg979395 date=1257374425]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=36949.msg979379#msg979379 date=1257373857]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979373#msg979373 date=1257373664]
I guess the lack of post-game threads filled with kneejerk, rage, and bollocks are as a result of most people recognising we were wildly unlucky, yes?[/quote]

I'm too disappointed to be angry. You wrote a good post but this loss could be devastating for the future of our team - financially and player wise. I just hope the football gods show some mercy on us this weekend.
[/quote]

This much we know. We are out of another challenge. Leaving us with FA and E Cups.

How depressing. How much more bad runs can we stomach...
[/quote]

We ARE still in with a shout of the league Y. If anything, being knocked out tonight has reinforced my belief that we'll turn it round in the Premiership.
[/quote]

Your recently-found positivity is infectious Sheik.
 
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36949.msg979395#msg979395 date=1257374425]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=36949.msg979379#msg979379 date=1257373857]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979373#msg979373 date=1257373664]
I guess the lack of post-game threads filled with kneejerk, rage, and bollocks are as a result of most people recognising we were wildly unlucky, yes?[/quote]

I'm too disappointed to be angry. You wrote a good post but this loss could be devastating for the future of our team - financially and player wise. I just hope the football gods show some mercy on us this weekend.
[/quote]

This much we know. We are out of another challenge. Leaving us with FA and E Cups.

How depressing. How much more bad runs can we stomach...
[/quote]

We ARE still in with a shout of the league Y. If anything, being knocked out tonight has reinforced my belief that we'll turn it round in the Premiership.
[/quote]

*blinks*
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979396#msg979396 date=1257374452]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979394#msg979394 date=1257374315]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979384#msg979384 date=1257374028]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979382#msg979382 date=1257373959]
I don't think we'll see a mass exodus because of being knocked out of the Champions' League Avvy. Hopefully it will embarrass the useless cunts into pulling their socks up.
[/quote]

Agreed. We're not Leeds.
[/quote]

It's funny you say that because in a lot of ways we resemble Leeds

they're trying to sell Babel and replace him with no one to pay Reina's wages, that's an example of the mess we're in

[/quote]

What are you basing this on?
[/quote]

Bascombe reported it saying we're going to sell him for £6m and replace him with no one to pay our goalie's wages

another fine example of the mess we're in and where the club is headed
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979399#msg979399 date=1257374698]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36949.msg979395#msg979395 date=1257374425]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=36949.msg979379#msg979379 date=1257373857]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979373#msg979373 date=1257373664]
I guess the lack of post-game threads filled with kneejerk, rage, and bollocks are as a result of most people recognising we were wildly unlucky, yes?[/quote]

I'm too disappointed to be angry. You wrote a good post but this loss could be devastating for the future of our team - financially and player wise. I just hope the football gods show some mercy on us this weekend.
[/quote]

This much we know. We are out of another challenge. Leaving us with FA and E Cups.

How depressing. How much more bad runs can we stomach...
[/quote]

We ARE still in with a shout of the league Y. If anything, being knocked out tonight has reinforced my belief that we'll turn it round in the Premiership.
[/quote]

You're being optimistic L ... I like that ... I believe we can too - let's hope there's a positive start this weekend.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979396#msg979396 date=1257374452]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979394#msg979394 date=1257374315]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979384#msg979384 date=1257374028]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979382#msg979382 date=1257373959]
I don't think we'll see a mass exodus because of being knocked out of the Champions' League Avvy. Hopefully it will embarrass the useless cunts into pulling their socks up.
[/quote]

Agreed. We're not Leeds.
[/quote]

It's funny you say that because in a lot of ways we resemble Leeds

they're trying to sell Babel and replace him with no one to pay Reina's wages, that's an example of the mess we're in

[/quote]

What are you basing this on?
[/quote]

Bascombe reported it saying we're going to sell him for £6m and replace him with no one to pay our goalie's wages

another fine example of the mess we're in and where the club is headed


[/quote]

It's funny how some people believe nothing Bascombe writes unless it suits them.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979399#msg979399 date=1257374698]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36949.msg979395#msg979395 date=1257374425]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=36949.msg979379#msg979379 date=1257373857]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979373#msg979373 date=1257373664]
I guess the lack of post-game threads filled with kneejerk, rage, and bollocks are as a result of most people recognising we were wildly unlucky, yes?[/quote]

I'm too disappointed to be angry. You wrote a good post but this loss could be devastating for the future of our team - financially and player wise. I just hope the football gods show some mercy on us this weekend.
[/quote]

This much we know. We are out of another challenge. Leaving us with FA and E Cups.

How depressing. How much more bad runs can we stomach...
[/quote]

We ARE still in with a shout of the league Y. If anything, being knocked out tonight has reinforced my belief that we'll turn it round in the Premiership.
[/quote]

Sure we are in with a miniscue shout. It is over bar the shouting mate.

Oh yes I forgot you are part of Spion's new army now.... *claps* - pull me along, hook my nose and pull me up.
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979402#msg979402 date=1257374818]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979396#msg979396 date=1257374452]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979394#msg979394 date=1257374315]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979384#msg979384 date=1257374028]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979382#msg979382 date=1257373959]
I don't think we'll see a mass exodus because of being knocked out of the Champions' League Avvy. Hopefully it will embarrass the useless cunts into pulling their socks up.
[/quote]

Agreed. We're not Leeds.
[/quote]

It's funny you say that because in a lot of ways we resemble Leeds

they're trying to sell Babel and replace him with no one to pay Reina's wages, that's an example of the mess we're in

[/quote]

What are you basing this on?
[/quote]

Bascombe reported it saying we're going to sell him for £6m and replace him with no one to pay our goalie's wages

another fine example of the mess we're in and where the club is headed


[/quote]

i can believe it.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=36949.msg979401#msg979401 date=1257374816]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979399#msg979399 date=1257374698]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36949.msg979395#msg979395 date=1257374425]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=36949.msg979379#msg979379 date=1257373857]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979373#msg979373 date=1257373664]
I guess the lack of post-game threads filled with kneejerk, rage, and bollocks are as a result of most people recognising we were wildly unlucky, yes?[/quote]

I'm too disappointed to be angry. You wrote a good post but this loss could be devastating for the future of our team - financially and player wise. I just hope the football gods show some mercy on us this weekend.
[/quote]

This much we know. We are out of another challenge. Leaving us with FA and E Cups.

How depressing. How much more bad runs can we stomach...
[/quote]

We ARE still in with a shout of the league Y. If anything, being knocked out tonight has reinforced my belief that we'll turn it round in the Premiership.
[/quote]

*blinks*
[/quote]

Well we are Anita. Rafa pisses me off no end. I think he prioritises the Champions' League and I think his record in the transfer market is average. But he got us so close last season and now doesn't have the distraction of the Champions' League to get in the way. Besides, in reality it has nothing to do with Rafa, it's a little fire in my belly that was blown out but is now rekindled. I hate to see us suffer and there comes a point when you have to stand tall and fight back. Liverpool Football Club and its supporters are synonymous for it. I just have a 'sense' things are gonna come good.
 
Nice post Ryan.
When things are not going your way, some fucker kicks you again. We are not getting the rub of the green, maybe some of that is brought on ourselves with poor defending. Once we scored, we seemed to look even more vulnerable, our defensive shape went, and invited the pressure onto us. Needless to say we conceded late again.
 
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36949.msg979410#msg979410 date=1257375078]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979399#msg979399 date=1257374698]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36949.msg979395#msg979395 date=1257374425]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=36949.msg979379#msg979379 date=1257373857]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979373#msg979373 date=1257373664]
I guess the lack of post-game threads filled with kneejerk, rage, and bollocks are as a result of most people recognising we were wildly unlucky, yes?[/quote]

I'm too disappointed to be angry. You wrote a good post but this loss could be devastating for the future of our team - financially and player wise. I just hope the football gods show some mercy on us this weekend.
[/quote]

This much we know. We are out of another challenge. Leaving us with FA and E Cups.

How depressing. How much more bad runs can we stomach...
[/quote]

We ARE still in with a shout of the league Y. If anything, being knocked out tonight has reinforced my belief that we'll turn it round in the Premiership.
[/quote]

Sure we are in with a miniscue shout. It is over bar the shouting mate.

Oh yes I forgot you are part of Spion's new army now.... *claps* - pull me along, hook my nose and pull me up.
[/quote]

Who you calling a hook nose bud?
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979413#msg979413 date=1257375140]

Well we are Anita. Rafa pisses me off no end. I think he prioritises the Champions' League and I think his record in the transfer market is average. But he got us so close last season and now doesn't have the distraction of the Champions' League to get in the way. Besides, in reality it has nothing to do with Rafa, it's a little fire in my belly that was blown out but is now rekindled. I hate to see us suffer and there comes a point when you have to stand tall and fight back. Liverpool Football Club and its supporters are synonymous for it. I just have a 'sense' things are gonna come good.
[/quote]

It's nice to see you being positive again. I so hope you're right. I'm just finding it hard to see when the and how the change is gonna come. I was convinced that the Utd game was it.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979396#msg979396 date=1257374452]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979394#msg979394 date=1257374315]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979384#msg979384 date=1257374028]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979382#msg979382 date=1257373959]
I don't think we'll see a mass exodus because of being knocked out of the Champions' League Avvy. Hopefully it will embarrass the useless cunts into pulling their socks up.
[/quote]

Agreed. We're not Leeds.
[/quote]

It's funny you say that because in a lot of ways we resemble Leeds

they're trying to sell Babel and replace him with no one to pay Reina's wages, that's an example of the mess we're in

[/quote]

What are you basing this on?
[/quote]

Bascombe reported it saying we're going to sell him for £6m and replace him with no one to pay our goalie's wages

another fine example of the mess we're in and where the club is headed


[/quote]

It's funny how some people believe nothing Bascombe writes unless it suits them.
[/quote]

So, come the end of January, if Babel hasn't been sold for 6M to fund Pepe Reina's wages, will you two flids apologise for peddling this argument?
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979396#msg979396 date=1257374452]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979394#msg979394 date=1257374315]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979384#msg979384 date=1257374028]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979382#msg979382 date=1257373959]
I don't think we'll see a mass exodus because of being knocked out of the Champions' League Avvy. Hopefully it will embarrass the useless cunts into pulling their socks up.
[/quote]

Agreed. We're not Leeds.
[/quote]

It's funny you say that because in a lot of ways we resemble Leeds

they're trying to sell Babel and replace him with no one to pay Reina's wages, that's an example of the mess we're in

[/quote]

What are you basing this on?
[/quote]

Bascombe reported it saying we're going to sell him for £6m and replace him with no one to pay our goalie's wages

another fine example of the mess we're in and where the club is headed


[/quote]

It's funny how some people believe nothing Bascombe writes unless it suits them.
[/quote]

So, come the end of January, if Babel hasn't been sold for 6M to fund Pepe Reina's wages, will you two flids apologise for peddling this argument?
[/quote]

What ?
 
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=36949.msg979425#msg979425 date=1257375582]
villa lost 2-1 btw

[/quote]

Super strike from Young to equalise, a cross-cum-shot into the top bin.
 
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