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"I'd like to see just a little bit more in terms of going hell for leather". Andy Townsend really speaks a language all of his own.
 
I bet Roy Keane has to shave at half time. Otherwise he'd surely have a great big bushy beard by the end of 90 minutes.
 
Wenger rolling out the excuses again, imagine having him as our manager and having to listen to that after every predictable failure, don't know how those Arsenal fans can still stomach him.

Wenger being in charge of Arsenal is actually a blessing for the top teams in this league, they could be quite a beast with a proper manager in charge.
 
Wenger rolling out the excuses again, imagine having him as our manager and having to listen to that after every predictable failure, don't know how those Arsenal fans can still stomach him.

Wenger being in charge of Arsenal is actually a blessing for the top teams in this league, they could be quite a beast with a proper manager in charge.

A proper manager..... like one who's won the Premier League?
 
Of course he was a proper manager once upon a time, not anymore though.

So he stopped being a "proper manager" around about the time rich Russians and then Arabs started bankrolling teams.

Do you think there's a link there?
 
So he stopped being a "proper manager" around about the time rich Russians and then Arabs started bankrolling teams.

Do you think there's a link there?

Fair point but he should still have been doing better than he has, he just doesn't learn or adapt anymore, i have no doubts they would improve if Ancelotti or someone like that were to come in, 9 years for one manager at a club the size of Arsenal to not win anything and consistantly bottle it when the going gets tough is inexcusable, the blokes a busted flush.
 
What could he have "done better"??

He's finished third or fourth for the past 7 years..
 
I think he's a good manager that has kept his team relatively successful - since ensuring a top 4 finish seems to the the measure of success above winning domestic cups.

Pretty sure the grass wouldn't necessarily be greener if he was replaced - and I suppose there's an argument for neigher over nor under achieving - but getting exactly what was realistically expected from them.
 
I do feel a little for Wenger - they've had a run of bad draws, players getting sent off or making mad decisions. You can't really legislate for that shit.

On the flip side, he's a miserable prick who has his own faults.
 
I do feel a little for Wenger - they've had a run of bad draws, players getting sent off or making mad decisions. You can't really legislate for that shit.

On the flip side, he's a miserable prick who has his own faults.

If he gave it both ways, maybe a bit if humility in the FA Cup having had home draws all the way through, instead of that smug fucking attitude like they're the only side that can pass the ball so should win every game, I may agree.

But as it is, fuck him. The whinging cunt.
 
He was in top form for this match - whingeing before as well as after the match. It's like his team - behind their faintly risible image of being saintly footballing aesthetes they're a nasty bunch who deservedly have a poor disciplinary record and an attitude (when they're not lording it over lesser teams) that stinks. Wenger is the most graceless manager in the league. This is a man who is supposed to be a mature adult, but he actually seems like he has the emotional age of a teenager. He has no hinterland, no other interests and no sense of perspective, and yet there are still some London hacks who try to depict him as 'football's great sophisticate'. The reality is the opposite. Even Allardyce, for god's sake, is a better loser than this jerk, and if he gets yet another fine from UEFA for his latest behaviour it's only what he deserves.
 
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