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Not trying to prove anything.
I just disagree with the decision.
Shanks said it well : The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they do not know the game.
If what you say is what the rules are now, it is just another case of fuckeduppery for me.
I guess we'll have to disagree on this, for me he lunged for the ball, yes got the ball but was not in full control, probably because he was tired. Hence the follow through. His studs were showing. Had they not been and the studs were down and it was the side of his foot which made contact, there would be an argument for a yellow. But studs into any part of the body above the boot is a red, anywhere on the pitch for me.
The Ukrainian player isn’t sure if he can stand on it either.
But just because someone is injured from it doesn't make it an automatic red card. Likewise, someone can be seriously injured from a fair tackle. It's a complicated one
Not all accidents deserve to be treated as such. If they are caused or preceded by behaviour that was reckless, even if it wasn't deliberate, that is - or should be - enough to earn punishment for the player who behaves in that way. Example: I don't think Pickford set out to injure Virgil but he sure as heck should have been sent off for it. IMHO the same applies in this case, the difference being that the refs at the Euros have mostly been vastly superior to Mike Riley and his motley crew.
But anyway, what do we expect of the quarters?
I reckon Italy - Belgium could be a cracker, with Italy edging it.
Spain to beat the Swiss, as they are getting better and better.
England to win by a goal against Ukraine.
Denmark and Czech is a bit of an open one, and to be decided by who gets the first goal and momentum.
I reckon Italy - Belgium could be a cracker, with Italy edging it.
Spain to beat the Swiss, as they are getting better and better.
England to win by a goal against Ukraine.
Denmark and Czech is a bit of an open one, and to be decided by who gets the first goal and momentum.
We'll have to agree to differ then. The essential point to me is that in both cases the tackle was very likely to cause injury, whoever it may have been aimed at.
Belgium is a 50/50, KDB is out for this 1 as is Eden Hazard, could be interesting.
Italy no longer have the home advantage like they did in the groups, looked poor in normal time against the Austrians.
England should go easily through but you never know.
Think Czechs run their course now, Danes look very good, give the edge to them but will be close.
Spain to go through (in injury time again)
Italy no longer have the home advantage like they did in the groups, looked poor in normal time against the Austrians.
England should go easily through but you never know.
Think Czechs run their course now, Danes look very good, give the edge to them but will be close.
Spain to go through (in injury time again)
But the Sweden one wasn't a tackle. He was clearing the ball. It wasn't dangerous or reckless until the fella ran into his leg.
Like my Zidane comparison, reaching high to pluck the ball out of the air. Had a player ran head first into his boot, should he have been sent off for dangerous play?
Thanks for the flowers 😉
I try to share my knowledge with you (but I would rather argue I am a 2/3.Bundesliga expert). And currently (and the whole July) I am on vacation - so will not be here on a regular basis.
What are you waiting for? Quick tell us everything there is to know about Florian Neuhuas and Joško Gvardiol. Now!!
What about Goretzka? Coman?? Are they coming to Liverpool? Baumgartner? Brandt? Is Taiwo Aiwonyi any good???
Fair comment based on the wording I used. I should have said "action" rather than "tackle" and, on that basis, stand by the fundamental point. With that many players in that limited amount of space, there has to be a limit on what's sensible/not sensible to do. Same would apply to your Zizou example, IMHO of course:
What are the odds for an Italy vs Czech final.....
Italy v Belgium = Italy
Swiss v Spain = Spain
Czech v Danes = Danes
England v Ukraine = England
I love the fact that Czech have a winnable quarter final tie and a Czech win wouldn't surprise me at all but I think the Danes might shade it. I might do a small treble on the first 3 quarter finals all being level after 90 minutes.
Swiss v Spain = Spain
Czech v Danes = Danes
England v Ukraine = England
I love the fact that Czech have a winnable quarter final tie and a Czech win wouldn't surprise me at all but I think the Danes might shade it. I might do a small treble on the first 3 quarter finals all being level after 90 minutes.
I think Belgium might do the Italians. They're good, but (as so often) not as good as they think they are.
I think Lukaku could be too physical for an ageing Italian defence but similarly the Italian forwards could dominate the Belgian defence. What decided it for me (in picking Italy) is that Debruyne and Hazard are both out.
I think the Italians are a tactically astute enough team to be able to control the supply to Lukaku and not let him receive the ball in positions where he can hurt them. And yes, much easier to do that when one of the best passers in football is out with injury.
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Yes, you might be right. This one is tough to call.
However I doubt Mancini will allow complacency, and they have been playing with some intensity and purpose.
Quite unlike Italy. With injuries to KDB and Hazard, I think the Eye-ties might nick it.
It's a tight one to call for sure, but - despite the more attacking style which Mancini's brought in (how much more might they have won down through the years if they'd trusted their own ability?) - I don't actually think this particular Italian side is all that impressive up front. KDB will be a big loss for sure, but Hazard's not been firing so shouldn't be much of a miss, and overall I don't think they've really got going yet, whereas I suspect the Italians are at the top of their game and still only just squeaked past Austria. Belgium by a short head for me still.
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