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Elite Premier League clubs back plans for a radical Champions League revamp which could kill FA Cup

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[article]The Big Six Premier League clubs are privately supporting radical plans to expand the Champions League group stage to a 32-team league in a threat to the unity of English football, Sportsmail has learned.

To create space in the calendar for additional Champions League games from the 2024-25 season Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham are prepared to push for dramatic changes to the structure of the domestic game, including the abolition of FA Cup replays and removing the second leg of the League Cup semi-final.

They would even consider cutting the number of teams in the top flight.

The attraction for the bigger clubs is more match-day revenue and a bigger Champions League TV deal which should not affect the value of the Premier League contract, as European games would continue to be played midweek, in contrast to an earlier proposal which involved moving the Champions League to weekends.

With combined domestic and overseas rights deals worth over £9billion the Premier League’s TV contract is far more valuable to English clubs than that covering the Champions League, and they would be loath to jeopardise that.

The Premier League’s smaller clubs are concerned by the ECA’s proposals, however, as in order to accommodate the additional games some domestic fixtures will have to be sacrificed.

The Big Six have already begun to alienate other clubs by holding private meetings away from the larger group and often travelling together to Premier League summits.

And the growing sense of schism will provide a huge challenge to new Premier League chief executive Richard Masters, who was appointed earlier this week.

Masters’ predecessor, Richard Scudamore, occasionally struggled to keep the clubs together during the latter days of his two-decade reign and bowed to pressure to give the Big Six a greater share of the overseas TV revenue last year. Maintaining unity will not be any easier for his successor.

While the Premier League, EFL and FA are working to safeguard the existing structure of English football there is a growing acceptance that an expansion of the Champions League is inevitable by 2024 due to the demands of European heavyweights such as Real Madrid and Juventus.

That date is significant as it is when the International Match Calendar agreed with FIFA expires and is also the start of a new Champions League broadcast deal, presenting an opportunity for UEFA and the leading European clubs to implement major changes.

The Big Six are increasingly supportive of such proposals and will demand changes to the domestic game in order to facilitate them, with the FA and League Cups most vulnerable.

Premier League clubs remain committed to playing in both the FA and EFL-run Carabao Cup as part of a Memorandum of Understanding signed when the league was formed in 1992, but there is nothing to stop them changing the competitions’ structure.

The FA scrapped replays from the fifth round last season and may be willing to do away with them entirely after 2024 — freeing up two midweeks for additional Champions League matches — but they would demand that smaller clubs are compensated by altering the distribution of TV and appearance money.

The EFL resisted calls to change the two-leg semi-final format for the Carabao Cup during talks with the FA and Premier League over introducing a winter break two years ago, but could do so in the future.

The first two rounds of the League Cup had two legs until 2001 and the EFL have not ruled out making further alterations to the format, although they insist that is not on the table at present. A change in 2024 would also fit in with the EFL’s timetable as their five-year deal with Sky Sports expires that year.

The Big Six have also held talks about seeking to reduce the Premier League to 18 teams, which would create another four fixture slots in the calendar, but such a change would require the support of 14 top-flight clubs, making it harder to introduce.[/article]
 
I don't like the idea of having Big Six conquering the entire league, building the gap between the elite and the regular clubs financially, with FFP in place not a single team below these top 6 could break into it and make it more challenging. It will be the death of football as a competition and more for showmanship. Big clubs and leagues in the group will bully everyone below them and it will become the usual boring suspects in Europe every year. All for the sake of big boys making the big bucks in match day revenue.

This is a sport, it's football. It's not the American franchise entertainment like the NFL and what have you.
 
How does this help in reducing the number of matches per season ?
It's not about reducing matches being played, but rather playing in competitions that yield more revenue for top clubs like ours. Something although is good for our club, is what I don't subscribe to and despice. The top clubs trying to treat others as just their feeder and not their competitor.
 
I don't like the idea of having Big Six conquering the entire league, building the gap between the elite and the regular clubs financially, with FFP in place not a single team below these top 6 could break into it and make it more challenging. It will be the death of football as a competition and more for showmanship. Big clubs and leagues in the group will bully everyone below them and it will become the usual boring suspects in Europe every year. All for the sake of big boys making the big bucks in match day revenue.

This is a sport, it's football. It's not the American franchise entertainment like the NFL and what have you.
I don't disagree, but this post is about 30 years too late.
 
So to reduce the league they need 14 clubs to agree... But if the big six threaten the other clubs by saying they will leave then of course the 14 clubs will agree. If the big six left the Premiership then the value of the premiership to TV broadcasters would decline rapidly. The big six are running tings no matter what we are led to believe.

However in kinda ok with a 18 team league as there are some boring premiership matchups at the moment.
 
I don't disagree, but this post is about 30 years too late.
It's not half as bad in other countries like Germany and England just yet. You still get the likes of Spurs and Leicester breaking into the supposedly elite 6, and the likes of United and Arsenal trailed off. But if this plan were to go through, it will be a breakaway of 6 teams and the rest of the league.
 
Having progressed to the knockout stage of the Champions League in their final group match, Klopp has no desire to see the first half of the season extended further, which is being considered according to reports on Saturday.
“Today I read the top clubs want more games in the Champions League – I am not involved in these plans but that is absolute bollocks,” he said.

The fixtures are like they are. You all like watching us suffering. That is how it is.

“You (the media) always look concerned but no-one cares. We speak about it and no-one else speaks about it.
“We have to do what we do and are quite positive about it.”
 
Klopp apparently doesn't like it too. But our owners aren't too fuss about it, they tend to see the money side of it more.
 
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