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Rosco

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I'm sure there's plenty of rumours, and our glorious leader seems to be denying there is any unrest?

So what do people think?

Is Gerrard doing everyone's head in? Is it a happy bunch? Have the players realised Rodgson isn't up to it?

I'd be upset if players weren't a bit pissed off given our present situation
 
if there isn't any unrest that would be more concerning.

We are playing shite, not winning, not scoring, not keeping clean sheets they should be having proper barnies.
 
Dahuge said:
if there isn't any unrest that would be more concerning.

We are playing shite, not winning, not scoring, not keeping clean sheets they should be having proper barnies.
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This. Exactly this. I'd be very surprised if there was no unrest !
 
Yeah but unrest suggests something a bit more sinister than just frustration.
Unrest suggests division, resentment, jealousy etc...
 
I fear Gerrard is getting close to how Roy Keane was in the manc dressing room - a seething, surly, thoroughly difficult pain in the arse. If, as has been documented, he once told Rafa to get out of the dressing room 'while I talk to MY team,' then christ knows what he says to Rodgers now.
 
I'd say this is pretty telling:

Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers has dismissed talk of dressing room unrest at the Premier League club.
The Reds are 11th in the table and out of the Champions League, but Rodgers insists his players remain united.
"I hear one or two bits and pieces about unrest and it is totally untrue," said the Northern Irishman. "Our dressing room is very strong."
Liverpool face Bournemouth in the League Cup quarter-finals on Wednesday before hosting Arsenal on Sunday.
Rodgers added: "These are competitive players who nearly won the league last year, so they won't be happy with losing.
"But the actual spirit in the group is very strong.
"That is one of the reasons why, when we get that confidence back, then we will go into the second half of the season and be much better."
Liverpool finished second in the Premier League last season, slipping up in the final few games as Manchester City claimed the title.
They then sold striker Luis Suarez to Barcelona.
"Expectancy on us this year is based on how we worked last season," said the former Reading and Swansea boss. "We know what we had last season and this year that dynamic has totally changed."
He added that, as Liverpool boss, there would always be pressure but said he believed he would turn the club's fortunes around.
"As a manager, you will always have tough periods, but I have great confidence in how staff and players work," he said.
"We just need a little bit of luck and a break and I think we will get that. When we get some consistent results we can push on."
Rodgers also responded to comments from former Liverpool captain Paul Ince, who said striker Mario Balotelli was a disruptive influence and should be sold.
"As the coach and manager, I need to work to maximise what I can get out of the player, but that is the same with every single player," he added.
"While he (Balotelli) is here at the club, that is all I will concentrate on."
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It's not a good platform to work from if you're already struggling and then you're being asked questions like this in pressers, is it?
Sounds to me like the beginnings of the grinding of the gears as the exit door portcullis clanks ever wider.
 
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gkmacca said:
I fear Gerrard is getting close to how Roy Keane was in the manc dressing room - a seething, surly, thoroughly difficult pain in the arse. If, as has been documented, he once told Rafa to get out of the dressing room 'while I talk to MY team,' then christ knows what he says to Rodgers now.
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I think it would be best for all concerned if Gerrard were to leave the club either in January or the summer. As great a player as he has been.
 
This guy?
djibril_cisse_voiture.jpg
 
Say Melwood got stormed by Taliban, would the club be insured? Would they get loads of money to buy tons of boss new players and coaches? Coz this lot are doing my fucking head in.
 
Yeh of course there is unrest. I can understand shit performances from a struggling manager but this shit is nuts. There isn't a team. They all look fucked off with each other. There aren't even pairs of players who link up and seem to click. Clueless manager. Shit performances. Shit results. Our top keeper on gardening leave/bench warming duty. Not one player seemingly even putting a decent shift in half the time. I'd say he has lost the dressing room big time and thought so a while ago.
 
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Cisse is the source, so who knows.
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I hadn't heard that so I Googled it, but it doesn't sound as sinister in this article:
http://www.squawka.com/news/djibril...t-half-time-in-a-champions-league-game/228128

Djibril Cissé has revealed that Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard banished manager Rafa Benitez from the dressing room for part of the half time interval during one Champions League game, telling reporters that the former England midfielder asked Benitez to leave for a moment so that he could address the players.
Ex-Chelsea star Craig Burley claims Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers is just ‘bluff and bluster’
Former Liverpool forward Cisse did not reveal what was said by Gerrard during the break, but with the game believed to be the 2005 Champions League final in Istanbul it clearly worked.
Djibril Cissé on Gerrard: “In Champions League at half-time he asked Benitez to leave the dressing room so he could talk to the players.”
— GFFNPressConferences (@GFFNPressConf) November 23, 2014​
Djibril Cissé on Gerrard: “He said “boss can you please leaving the dressing room so I can talk to my team” and he did it.”
— GFFNPressConferences (@GFFNPressConf) November 23, 2014​
Cisse told French television that Gerrard made the request to Benitez, saying that he wanted to “talk to my team.” Liverpool’s 2005 Champions League win famously saw them head into the half-time interval 3-0 down, before coming out a different side in the second half to claw their way back to 3-3 and win on penalties.
Cisse was a substitute in that game, one of 82 appearances that he made for the Anfield club. Gerrard has been captain of the club since taking over from Sami Hyypia in 2003, holding the role for over a decade.
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Well Enrique, Suso, Coutinho, Johnson, Lucas, Manquillo and Moreno seem to be pretty tight. They're forever posting jokey pictures of each other and seem to socialise all the time, so I'd say that's the one positive core to the squad.

I'm sure Toure gets on well with everyone.

Lallana and Lambert obviously have a rapport.

Sterling still seems to hang out with da kids.

The rest I fear are miserable loners. Mingolet probably can't hold on to any friends (boom boom). Balotelli is away with the fairies at the best of times. And Gerrard probably poses for pastiches of Caspar David Friedrich paintings on his afternoons off.
 
Yeah maybe the Taliban are a bit over the top and wouldn't solve the problems at Melwood. Perhaps if a Baader Meinhof type group kidnapped a few underperforming players that would bring the rest of the team together.
 
gkmacca said:
I fear Gerrard is getting close to how Roy Keane was in the manc dressing room - a seething, surly, thoroughly difficult pain in the arse. If, as has been documented, he once told Rafa to get out of the dressing room 'while I talk to MY team,' then christ knows what he says to Rodgers now.
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Can't have been very well documented. I've never heard of it and I bet loads haven't either. I highly doubt he said that. I doubt Benitez would take it either.
 
My mate just got back from a week in Islamabad and is planning on moving there for six months in the new year. I was watching the match with him on Sunday and he was going on about how ace it is and how lovely everyone is, how welcoming etc, and how safe it all felt. Nuts all this though innit.
 
Rosco said:
I'm sure there's plenty of rumours, and our glorious leader seems to be denying there is any unrest?

So what do people think?

Is Gerrard doing everyone's head in? Is it a happy bunch? Have the players realised Rodgson isn't up to it?

I'd be upset if players weren't a bit pissed off given our present situation
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Isn't it all just trivia?

When managers don't get results, there's a whole host of things that just happen inevitably.

-Manager X has lost the plot, they are dealing with the press poorly
-Isn't it crazy how manager x is acting like the house isn't burning down, he said that was a a GOOD PERFORMANCE!
-Manager X has lost the dressing room
-Manager X is now blaming the owners/transfers
-Manager X's best players threatening to leave, their agents putting some lines in the water

Fill out your own, we've done this so many times we ought to know by now. I'm barely paying attention.
 
Woland said:
My mate just got back from a week in Islamabad and is planning on moving there for six months in the new year. I was watching the match with him on Sunday and he was going on about how ace it is and how lovely everyone is, how welcoming etc, and how safe it all felt. Nuts all this though innit.
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I knew an American couple (well, she was from Dublin but worked for the Americans) who were stationed in the U.S. embassy in Pakistan. They had to take separate cars to work, in case one was attacked at least the kids would still have one parent.
 
Aidan O' Neill said:
Can't have been very well documented. I've never heard of it and I bet loads haven't either. I highly doubt he said that. I doubt Benitez would take it either.
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This is going to be a bombshell, but you personally don't need to have heard of it to be well documented. You can doubt it if you like but don't imply I just made it up.
 
Knowing what I know of Gerrard, I can completely see him doing that
 
Gerrard has had a tough year. He's probably half on the edge of packing it all in. I doubt he's great company right now anyways.
 
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