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[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=44931.msg1353948#msg1353948 date=1308833188]
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=44931.msg1353945#msg1353945 date=1308833011]
Don't know why I bother
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44931.msg1353860#msg1353860 date=1308826892]
Exactly
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Some kind of response like that I presume!
[/quote]Erm i think you might have gone bonkers Slugsy.
 
Challenge, disagree, having differences on a forum...whats the difference! I'm not getting worked up about it anyway.

I can see there's no point in putting any views at all your way. Lesson learned. *Moves on*
 
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=44931.msg1353967#msg1353967 date=1308834186]
Challenge, disagree, having differences on a forum...whats the difference! I'm not getting worked up about it anyway.

I can see there's no point in putting any views at all your way. Lesson learned. *Moves on*
[/quote]Ashley Young. I think hes a much better player.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44931.msg1353951#msg1353951 date=1308833634]
'I dont think anyone will mind us signing Marcus Bent so long as we sign Messi'
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Tbh...
 
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=44931.msg1353856#msg1353856 date=1308826617]
Tbh, I don't think many people would mind singing Downing at all, as long as we get Mata also.
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Jesus Christ.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44931.msg1354009#msg1354009 date=1308837256]
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=44931.msg1353856#msg1353856 date=1308826617]
Tbh, I don't think many people would mind singing Downing at all, as long as we get Mata also.
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Jesus Christ.
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Care to elaborate? or just going to be facetious to emphasis how obviously deluded I am?
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44931.msg1353969#msg1353969 date=1308834290]
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=44931.msg1353967#msg1353967 date=1308834186]
Challenge, disagree, having differences on a forum...whats the difference! I'm not getting worked up about it anyway.

I can see there's no point in putting any views at all your way. Lesson learned. *Moves on*
[/quote]Ashley Young. I think hes a much better player.
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We're not going to get Young though Oncy so it's a moot point, people keep bringing Young up. He's got the choice of an up and coming Liverpool side with no European football, or the Champions who will be playing in the CL and more than likely challenging for the title. That's why we're in for Downing while they're in for Young. There might be better players (than Downing) out there, but Young is irrelevant.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44931.msg1354050#msg1354050 date=1308839939]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44931.msg1353969#msg1353969 date=1308834290]
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=44931.msg1353967#msg1353967 date=1308834186]
Challenge, disagree, having differences on a forum...whats the difference! I'm not getting worked up about it anyway.

I can see there's no point in putting any views at all your way. Lesson learned. *Moves on*
[/quote]Ashley Young. I think hes a much better player.
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We're not going to get Young though Oncy so it's a moot point, people keep bringing Young up. He's got the choice of an up and coming Liverpool side with no European football, or the Champions who will be playing in the CL and more than likely challenging for the title. That's why we're in for Downing while they're in for Young. There might be better players (than Downing) out there, but Young is irrelevant.
[/quote]Mark i was asked a direct question on the last page 'Who would i prefer Young or Downing?' which i answered.
Whether we can get either is neither here nor there, i was just answering Slugsy's question. I didnt bring up Young at all.
Ps-Ashley Young has signed for united ergo is now a cunt.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44931.msg1354086#msg1354086 date=1308844078]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44931.msg1354050#msg1354050 date=1308839939]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44931.msg1353969#msg1353969 date=1308834290]
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=44931.msg1353967#msg1353967 date=1308834186]
Challenge, disagree, having differences on a forum...whats the difference! I'm not getting worked up about it anyway.

I can see there's no point in putting any views at all your way. Lesson learned. *Moves on*
[/quote]Ashley Young. I think hes a much better player.
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We're not going to get Young though Oncy so it's a moot point, people keep bringing Young up. He's got the choice of an up and coming Liverpool side with no European football, or the Champions who will be playing in the CL and more than likely challenging for the title. That's why we're in for Downing while they're in for Young. There might be better players (than Downing) out there, but Young is irrelevant.
[/quote]Mark i was asked a direct question on the last page 'Who would i prefer Young or Downing?' which i answered.
Whether we can get either is neither here nor there, i was just answering Slugsy's question. I didnt bring up Young at all.
Ps-Ashley Young has signed for united ergo is now a cunt.
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I was gonna reply that I'd probably quiffed a bit mate (I didn't see Sluggy's question), it wasn't really at you anyway just the general moans about United being in for Young while we're in for Downing.. Young doesn't want to come to us anyway, understandably in light of him wanting CL football.

(He is now a cunt though, agreed!).
 
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=44931.msg1353906#msg1353906 date=1308829670]
Now if the question was we'll spend £20million on Downing instead of putting the money towards someone else, it would be a VERY different.
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They're not separate questions.

What do you think we'll do with that 20M if we don't spend it on Downing?

Burn it?
 
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=44931.msg1354048#msg1354048 date=1308839769]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44931.msg1354009#msg1354009 date=1308837256]
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=44931.msg1353856#msg1353856 date=1308826617]
Tbh, I don't think many people would mind singing Downing at all, as long as we get Mata also.
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Jesus Christ.
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Care to elaborate? or just going to be facetious to emphasis how obviously deluded I am?
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Here's a direct c&p from a post I made 2 weeks ago. Sums it up pretty well...

- "Well, so long as we sign Benzema and Aguero, then I'm happy with a summer of Benzema, Aguero, Barton, Dann, Enrique etc etc etc... I can live with the last three if we get the first two."
I'm sorry, WHAT? So, you'll excuse the fucking bullshit waste of money signings that we'll sell at a loss in 12 months time, because we got two decent players and that somehow compensates for the shit? I'll tell you what constitutes a "good summer" - and it's NOT buying Christain Poulsen, Paul Knonchesky, Brad Jones, and a bunch of other hapless deadwood shit.
You don't see Ferguson going 'well, I've got Modric and Nasri, so I've got room for a few useless jokers to pad out the squad with' do you?
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44931.msg1354265#msg1354265 date=1308873502]
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=44931.msg1354048#msg1354048 date=1308839769]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44931.msg1354009#msg1354009 date=1308837256]
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=44931.msg1353856#msg1353856 date=1308826617]
Tbh, I don't think many people would mind singing Downing at all, as long as we get Mata also.
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Jesus Christ.
[/quote]

Care to elaborate? or just going to be facetious to emphasis how obviously deluded I am?
[/quote]

Here's a direct c&p from a post I made 2 weeks ago. Sums it up pretty well...

- "Well, so long as we sign Benzema and Aguero, then I'm happy with a summer of Benzema, Aguero, Barton, Dann, Enrique etc etc etc... I can live with the last three if we get the first two."
I'm sorry, WHAT? So, you'll excuse the fucking bullshit waste of money signings that we'll sell at a loss in 12 months time, because we got two decent players and that somehow compensates for the shit? I'll tell you what constitutes a "good summer" - and it's NOT buying Christain Poulsen, Paul Knonchesky, Brad Jones, and a bunch of other hapless deadwood shit.
You don't see Ferguson going 'well, I've got Modric and Nasri, so I've got room for a few useless jokers to pad out the squad with' do you?
Yes all very well Ryan and a good point if United did not have strength in depth in their squad.

Regards
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I kinda sympathise with the posters saying 'I don't mind if we sign Downing as long as we get Mata'.

They don't think Downing is that bad and think he can do a decent job for us whilst improving us at the same time. Now, they mighn't be happy with him being our first choice or sole signing for the wing but if we also signed Mata then it would appease them a little. We would then have Mata as our first choice winger and he could also play in a plethora of attacking positions due to his guile and versatility. We would also have Downing who can play on either wing thus giving us more options.

I'm not a fan of Downing and don't want us paying over the odds for him. I want Mata, end of. However if Mata was possible then I wouldn't lose sleep over Downing being signed for a fair and affordable price as he would increase our options on the wings. Sadly, Kenny seems keen on Downing at an extortionate price.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44931.msg1354265#msg1354265 date=1308873502]
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=44931.msg1354048#msg1354048 date=1308839769]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44931.msg1354009#msg1354009 date=1308837256]
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=44931.msg1353856#msg1353856 date=1308826617]
Tbh, I don't think many people would mind singing Downing at all, as long as we get Mata also.
[/quote]

Jesus Christ.
[/quote]

Care to elaborate? or just going to be facetious to emphasis how obviously deluded I am?
[/quote]

Here's a direct c&p from a post I made 2 weeks ago. Sums it up pretty well...

- "Well, so long as we sign Benzema and Aguero, then I'm happy with a summer of Benzema, Aguero, Barton, Dann, Enrique etc etc etc... I can live with the last three if we get the first two."
I'm sorry, WHAT? So, you'll excuse the fucking bullshit waste of money signings that we'll sell at a loss in 12 months time, because we got two decent players and that somehow compensates for the shit? I'll tell you what constitutes a "good summer" - and it's NOT buying Christain Poulsen, Paul Knonchesky, Brad Jones, and a bunch of other hapless deadwood shit.
You don't see Ferguson going 'well, I've got Modric and Nasri, so I've got room for a few useless jokers to pad out the squad with' do you?
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well actually ferguson seems to have been thinking that quite a lot the last few years!
 
Surely we won't pay this much for the 'Boro player. There will be plenty of Liverpudlians downing stiff drinks to numb the pain if this comes to pass.
 
[quote author=ILD link=topic=44931.msg1354272#msg1354272 date=1308875060]
I kinda sympathise with the posters saying 'I don't mind if we sign Downing as long as we get Mata'.

They don't think Downing is that bad and think he can do a decent job for us whilst improving us at the same time. Now, they mighn't be happy with him being our first choice or sole signing for the wing but if we also signed Mata then it would appease them a little. We would then have Mata as our first choice winger and he could also play in a plethora of attacking positions due to his guile and versatility. We would also have Downing who can play on either wing thus giving us more options.

I'm not a fan of Downing and don't want us paying over the odds for him. I want Mata, end of. However if Mata was possible then I wouldn't lose sleep over Downing being signed for a fair and affordable price as he would increase our options on the wings. Sadly, Kenny seems keen on Downing at an extortionate price.


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Exactly this.
 
Truth is we aren't the draw we once were and we'd be daft not to explore options in case our first choice fall through (you'd hope downing wasn't our first choice) but as I said earlier if our first choice signings DO fall through I'd rather that money be on the pitch in the form of downing than gathering dust in an American bank, we BADLY need options for the left side of midfield.
 
My stance on this, is quite simple. If Villa won't budge regarding the fee I think we should move on and try to get N'zogbia, a cheaper, better and younger option.

In an ideal world N'zogbia would have been ahead of Downing on our "wishlist".
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44931.msg1354459#msg1354459 date=1308913057]
I wouldn't mind N'zogbia to be fair.
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Neither would I. Can also cover at left back if needed.
 
Don't really rate him there, but I'd certainly prefer him to Downing in his usual position, which would be what we were buying him for anyway.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44931.msg1354284#msg1354284 date=1308886863]
Thanks for the reminder of how shit you are at humour Wilko, I'd almost forgot.
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I'll take this into consideration, Ryan. Your views are very important to me.
 
I'm not into that n'zogbia... I reckon it's all about consistency to be top level . He's boss in the highlights . Watch him for a full game and he'll fuck up shit you can't get away with. Gave the ball away loads when I've seen him. I think makes bad decisions. I don't watch much Wigan like to be fair.

Downing just seems bog standard to me too. Maybe I'm missing something our scouts see in him. Bog standard old woman.
 
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=44931.msg1354326#msg1354326 date=1308902432]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=44931.msg1354272#msg1354272 date=1308875060]
I kinda sympathise with the posters saying 'I don't mind if we sign Downing as long as we get Mata'.

They don't think Downing is that bad and think he can do a decent job for us whilst improving us at the same time. Now, they mighn't be happy with him being our first choice or sole signing for the wing but if we also signed Mata then it would appease them a little. We would then have Mata as our first choice winger and he could also play in a plethora of attacking positions due to his guile and versatility. We would also have Downing who can play on either wing thus giving us more options.

I'm not a fan of Downing and don't want us paying over the odds for him. I want Mata, end of. However if Mata was possible then I wouldn't lose sleep over Downing being signed for a fair and affordable price as he would increase our options on the wings. Sadly, Kenny seems keen on Downing at an extortionate price.


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Exactly this.
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I'd rather the club focuses it's energies on getting in another winger if Mata refuses to come as opposed to shrugging it's shoulders and getting in Downing as sloppy seconds; which would cost our negotiating stalwarts as much as Mata anyway.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=44931.msg1354727#msg1354727 date=1308943612]
N'Zogbia is mental.

Wouldnt mind Downing actually. Just want someone signed soon.
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Mental but a talent and a half a mate. I honestly think with the right Club, N'Zogbia would be a star.

Anyhow it looks like Kenny prefers Downing and we'll just have to trust the great mans judgement. Not that we can't question it. 😀
 
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=44931.msg1354769#msg1354769 date=1308954373]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=44931.msg1354727#msg1354727 date=1308943612]
N'Zogbia is mental.

Wouldnt mind Downing actually. Just want someone signed soon.
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Mental but a talent and a half a mate. I honestly think with the right Club, N'Zogbia would be a star.

Anyhow it looks like Kenny prefers Downing and we'll just have to trust the great mans judgement. Not that we can't question it. D
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True. Downing wouldn't be an exciting signing, but like many here have said before if this summer ends with us signing a marquee player like Mata I don't really care who we get.
 
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