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David Moyes - Man U manager

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he's finished above us (potentially) 2 seasons in a row with a team thats been overperforming for a while (sound familliar?) and he's done it whilst spending marginally less than we have, this time he's going to have a decent budget to play around with. I think everton are fucked, but i dont think anythings going to change for united.

Marginally?!
 
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Moyes vs Mourinho
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Moyes vs Wenger
W3 D5 L14 F21 A48 Win%14

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Moyes vs Mancini
W6 D1 L1 F12 A5 Win%75

Arrrhh I see why he's appointed now. 😛
But his team never had RVP and the rest of UTDs squad. Unfair stat
 
Binny just posts them .. it's for us to derive the meaning of life from them.

Right, can you derive the meaning of this then?

United lost three games at home this season (man city, spurs, Chelsea)

Chelsea lost twice at home (united, QPR)

Man city lost once at home (united)

Arsenal lost three times at home (Chelsea, Swansea, City)

So teams outside the top four managed to win twice in 60+ attempts against the top four teams.

Does that mean all the managers outside the top four are shit?

Or does it simply say the best teams are hard to beat at home? Something we already knew.
 
It's ridiculously simple.

It's like criticising a formula one driver for not winning when he's in a shit car.
 
]Incidentally, the press say Slur Alex told the Man U board in early March that he was retiring and four weeks later Phil Neville tells Everton he's moving on. My assumption is in that four week period Man U approach Moyes, who in turn asked Phil if he fancied going 'home' to be part of his staff.
 
Frogfish's not wrong. There are more than 1 number and while some focus on wins/defeats, like Rosco, others focus on points. There will be those who focus on goal difference to see how much of a fight his team can put up against top sides etc.

We (or at least, I) have not said that he is a poor appointment and that he will be a failure. The general consensus is that he would probably not have that successful a stint at Old Trafford, by their own standards.

The stats and numbers are for reference, for fun, for discussion while they can also be ignored/be brushed off as completely irrelevant. Why make it out that mentioning/posting them has to be an agenda behind it? We do the same when players get linked etc. and its obvious that those stats will be of lesser reference if the player is say from a different league/continent. We still went on with our discussions (and I doubt the scouts/analyst just throw all those figures out of the window).

If one can take a calmer, fairer perspective while looking at the posts, one will notice, for example, that out of the 45 away games vs Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, he was unbeaten in almost 50% of those clashes (18 draws).

To each his view, some simply fall for how the figures try to appear as they are, others take a wider view and the rest disregard them as plain numbers.
 
Right, can you derive the meaning of this then?

United lost three games at home this season (man city, spurs, Chelsea)

Chelsea lost twice at home (united, QPR)

Man city lost once at home (united)

Arsenal lost three times at home (Chelsea, Swansea, City)

So teams outside the top four managed to win twice in 60+ attempts against the top four teams.

Does that mean all the managers outside the top four are shit?

Or does it simply say the best teams are hard to beat at home? Something we already knew.

So on average the lower teams win 3% of the time, Moyes has won 0% of the time, so he performs worse than the average?
 
Ferrgie will still be running things in the background and moyes is happy to let him be the the puppet master.

No other manger would stand for that least not Jose, hence why I can see it ending in years with roman again.
 
Frogfish's not wrong. There are more than 1 number and while some focus on wins/defeats, like Trollco, others focus on points. There will be those who focus on goal difference to see how much of a fight his team can put up against top sides etc.

We (or at least, I) have not said that he is a poor appointment and that he will be a failure. The general consensus is that he would probably not have that successful a stint at Old Trafford, by their own standards.

The stats and numbers are for reference, for fun, for discussion while they can also be ignored/be brushed off as completely irrelevant. Why make it out that mentioning/posting them has to be an agenda behind it? We do the same when players get linked etc. and its obvious that those stats will be of lesser reference if the player is say from a different league/continent. We still went on with our discussions (and I doubt the scouts/analyst just throw all those figures out of the window).

If one can take a calmer, fairer perspective while looking at the posts, one will notice, for example, that out of the 45 away games vs Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, he was unbeaten in almost 50% of those clashes (18 draws).

To each his view, some simply fall for how the figures try to appear as they are, others take a wider view and the rest disregard them as plain numbers.

In short, wind your neck in Rosco.
 
Binny dont be coming in here with your fun stats. Theres no room in an internet football forum for fun, reference, discussion or opinion.
 
So on average the lower teams win 3% of the time, Moyes has won 0% of the time, so he performs worse than the average?

That's based on the assumption that results are 100% based on the manager.

Which is false. Results are 65% talent, 35% luck. The manager is a tiny portion of that 65%.

How do you know he hasn't just been unlucky?
 
That's based on the assumption that results are 100% based on the manager.

Which is false. Results are 65% talent, 35% luck. The manager is a tiny portion of that 65%.

How do you know he hasn't just been unlucky?

Maybe he has been unlucky, but it's a large number of games to be unlucky for. If I was choosing a manager I'd rather one that tended to be lucky.
 
Cant wait for every big European club out there to be educated by Ross. As it doesnt matter who the manager is they can just appoint anyone and save millions.

Darren Ferguson will walk the league with Utd and Tony Adams will challenge with Arsenal.
Paul Dickov is an outsider with City mind.
 
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OK. That's it. I ain't NEVER gonna get to finish a McDonalds ever again! You know about all the commotion during the past few days? Uh-huh? Well, I said to ma self, "Charles, you gotta git yourself out of Cleveland before you go MAD!" So I get on a plane and fly all the way to England. An' I gets out at Manchester airport, see, and - thank the lord! - I see a great big ol' McDonalds! Civilisation! So I'm bitin' into ma Big Mac, happy as Larry, when I go up to this crazy place called "Carrington". And what happens? There's only about 50 young guys in there, banging on all the windows and doors, screaming at me, "Get us out a here, before he comes, get us out, PLEASE!!!" FIFTY of the mo-fos, beggin' to be let out!! So once again, I had to drop ma Big Mac to let these poor dudes out! They all come runnin' out a there screamin' something about a big bad mules, or moors, or moths, or somethin,' they talking real funny, but whatever it was they all real scared! Anyway, I'm SO hungry! I think I'm gonna try Sweden next! Do they sell McDonalds?
 
Right, can you derive the meaning of this then?

United lost three games at home this season (man city, spurs, Chelsea)

Chelsea lost twice at home (united, QPR)

Man city lost once at home (united)

Arsenal lost three times at home (Chelsea, Swansea, City)

So teams outside the top four managed to win twice in 60+ attempts against the top four teams.

Does that mean all the managers outside the top four are shit?

Or does it simply say the best teams are hard to beat at home? Something we already knew.

It means United should have signed up Laudrup or Harry !
 
Hey everybody, I woke up this morning and David Moyes is still the new Man Utd manager.

hahahahahahahahah

This feels so good.

When is this going to stop feeling great?

I fell like laughing and singing all time, I feel like hugging strangers!

I want to ride a horse through a meadow because that's what I kinda feel like I'm doing anyway!!

I want to walk to the top of a great mountain and yodel!!

I want to run into the ocean, laughing, laughing, laughing at the waves and the puffy clouds above me and petting the little fishies that swim up to say hello gene!
 
Man United forums are hillarous at the moment.

The highlight so far is one member posting a video on Celine Dion's 'My Heart will go on' and saying 'I totally understand this song now"

http://www.redcafe.net/f6/sir-alex-fergusons-retiring-370296/

Whole thread is worth a read.
I've only read a sections of it, but it's hilarious. I love how it goes from:


He might be retiring

to

It's only speculations, and there's no truth in it

to

Aw, fuck, no.

to

Plllllleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaassssseee don't let it be Moyes

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Aw, fuck, no (again)

to

Actually, I was wrong. Moyes is a great manager.
 
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In all my fifty years in the business - FIFTY, darling! - I've never felt so low. Not even when my production of Dixie! - The Dixie Dean Story collapsed when Michael Crawford dropped out at the last minute after discovering he'd have to do the whole of the last act dancing on one of his knee caps. I am shattered. Y'know I went to school with Paul McCartney. Or rather, he went to school with me. And so it comes easy to me at such dark moments like this to remember a lyric he once wrote: "We're so sorry, Uncle Albert..." My Uncle Albert was an incredible man. It has nothing to do with what I'm talking about but I always have to mention my incredible, funny, emotional relations. Like my Aunty Gin. She was incredible. I'm getting a tear in my eye just thinking about her. She went to school with Paul McCartney, too. Until they stopped her. Anyway, as a Blue - and if I'm anything, it's a Blue - fifty years a blue, darling, FIFTY - it's impossible to put into words how sad and upset and depressed I am at this moment, but I feel obliged to all of you, and all of your mams, to try my best to do so. I recall what my Uncle Eric once said to me [continued for the rest of time]
 
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